Brooks leather seats.
I'm considering ordering a Brooks leather seat for my 1964 Schwinn Supersport. The bike originally had a Brooks seat but ended up getting switched out years ago when I loaned the bike to a family member. It looks like a B17 is probably the seat I should order. I'm wondering if any of you have this seat and what are your thoughts ? Is there a good source for these or should I just order from Amazon ? Thanks !
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Thanks so much ! I didn't even think to do that.
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I’d order a Brooks saddle.
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Some things to be aware of, based on my personal experience with one:
- They really do take a long time time to break in. I have hundreds of miles on mine, and it’s just now starting to get softened or formed to my pelvis. - They really are potentially very comfortable, as claimed by Sheldon Brown and many others, once you get through that long break in period. I can see myself becoming very fond of mine. - They are actually not hard to maintain. You keep a light coat of the oily treatment on it (Proofide or equivalent), and get one of their plastic covers if you ride in the rain. The design is quite durable. - Adjustment is critical, even more so than with other types of seats. A few degrees of difference in tilt can really make or break the comfort, and it’s specific to each individual rider. You don’t just throw it on, start riding, and have a good experience guaranteed. Good luck! I got the one with a relief cutout, and I recommend it. Hopefully you will find it works well for you, with an understanding of the points made above. |
Originally Posted by 1964Supersport
(Post 22583903)
... what are your thoughts ? Is there a good source for these?
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Not sure why you would buy a saddle just because it may have been what was originally on the bike. Saddles come in all sorts of shapes and designs because each of us is different.
The b17 is fine. It rakes time to break in and you need to point the nose up at like a 20 degree angle. Angle it up so it looks goofy and then angle it up a smidge more- that will be the proper angle. |
Originally Posted by Broctoon
(Post 22584062)
Some things to be aware of, based on my personal experience with one:
- They really do take a long time time to break in. I have hundreds of miles on mine, and it’s just now starting to get softened or formed to my pelvis. - They really are potentially very comfortable, as claimed by Sheldon Brown and many others, once you get through that long break in period. I can see myself becoming very fond of mine. - They are actually not hard to maintain. You keep a light coat of the oily treatment on it (Proofide or equivalent), and get one of their plastic covers if you ride in the rain. The design is quite durable. - Adjustment is critical, even more so than with other types of seats. A few degrees of difference in tilt can really make or break the comfort, and it’s specific to each individual rider. You don’t just throw it on, start riding, and have a good experience guaranteed. Good luck! I got the one with a relief cutout, and I recommend it. Hopefully you will find it works well for you, with an understanding of the points made above. |
You might try a quick search here n BF as there's dozens, and dozens, and dozens of threads discussing Brooks saddles.
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I have seven bikes and seven Brooks saddles. Three are B17s, three are C17 Cambiums, and one is a Professional. I love them all, and I categorically reject the exaggerated complaints about the break-in period. Yes, they are kind of expensive. Yes, they are kind of heavy. And yes, my shiny chrome 62-year-old ass is worth it. I won’t ride anything else, and neither should you.
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Originally Posted by Rolla
(Post 22584280)
I have seven bikes and seven Brooks saddles. Three are B17s, three are C17 Cambiums, and one is a Professional. I love them all, and I categorically reject the exaggerated complaints about the break-in period. Yes, they are kind of expensive. Yes, they are kind of heavy. And yes, my shiny chrome 62-year-old ass is worth it. I won’t ride anything else, and neither should you.
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Originally Posted by fishboat
(Post 22584277)
You might try a quick search here n BF as there's dozens, and dozens, and dozens of threads discussing Brooks saddles.
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...most of mine are Brooks Professional model. But from your description of just starting to get back on the bike, the B17, which is cut a little wider in the back, is probably what you want. |
Originally Posted by 1964Supersport
(Post 22584335)
I'm sorry whats BF ?
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Originally Posted by fishboat
(Post 22584277)
You might try a quick search here n BF as there's dozens, and dozens, and dozens of threads discussing Brooks saddles.
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Originally Posted by 3alarmer
(Post 22584367)
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...most of mine are Brooks Professional model. But from your description of just starting to get back on the bike, the B17, which is cut a little wider in the back, is probably what you want. https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...5d9396ee64.jpg This is a picture of the seat that is on my bike. Do I need to reuse the bracket with a new Brooks B17 ? Will there be any fitmit problems ? Sorry for the questions, this is my first time doing a seat swap. Thanks ! |
I have both the Brooks Team Professional and the B17. For some reason the Professional feels more comfortable. If I was to order the B17 again, I would order the one with the copper rivets. One of the rivets on the B17 is not flush. With copper rivets, there is an easy remedy. I don't know what do do about the situation with the B17.
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The Brooks will not come with a bracket to attach to the bike.
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Originally Posted by 1964Supersport;[url=tel:22584698
22584698]I have a silly question. When looking at pictures of the underside of New Brooks seats I don't see the bracket that bolts to the seat post. Do new seats come with that bracket or am I suppose to use the one from my old seat ?
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Originally Posted by 1964Supersport
(Post 22584698)
I have a silly question. When looking at pictures of the underside of New Brooks seats I don't see the bracket that bolts to the seat post. Do new seats come with that bracket or am I suppose to use the one from my old seat ?
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...5d9396ee64.jpg This is a picture of the seat that is on my bike. Do I need to reuse the bracket with a new Brooks B17 ? Will there be any fitmit problems ? Sorry for the questions, this is my first time doing a seat swap. Thanks !
Originally Posted by Rolla
(Post 22584714)
The attachment clamp is part of the seatpost, not the saddle. I would recommend getting a seatpost with an affixed head, rather than the detachable kind in your photo. You’ll get more fore-aft adjustability, for one, and a generally more secure interface.
You can get a pretty decent alloy seat post with an integral clamping mechanism on Amazon now in the $20 range. You do have to size it correctly, with respect to diameter, and you will probably need to shorten it with a hacksaw and a file. Or you can look for something used. Sugino made some good, solid ones, if you can find one in the right diameter. As did SR, with their Laprade seat post. For the new ones, on Amazon, there are a plethora of things that will work, all marketed under different names. Try to spend at least 20 bucks, to avoid the worst of them, but make sure you get the right diameter. You can use your old post and clamp if you really need to, but generally speaking they are troublesome to use and adjust. |
I scoffed at Brooks saddles for many years. I used Selle Italia saddles, a San Marcos Rolls, Serfas, and Specialized Body Geometry. I finally got a Brooks after having tried everything else, and was hooked. All of my bikes are fitted with Brooks B17 saddles. The B17 is wide enough that I can ride for hours without needing cycling shorts, but not so wide that it chafes.
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Comfort on the B17 is very sensitive to saddle height. If it is slightly too high, you will experience perineum pain. So many people get away with running their saddle too high, by using a seat with a cutout. Get your saddle position correct, fore and aft, and height, and you should have no issues.
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I think the clamp you have will give you a wider fore-aft adjustment range, than an integrated seatpost/clamp since your clamp can be reversed. Lots of people love the Brooks saddles, but it doesn't fit everyone.
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Originally Posted by 50PlusCycling
(Post 22585016)
I scoffed at Brooks saddles for many years. I used Selle Italia saddles, a San Marcos Rolls, Serfas, and Specialized Body Geometry. I finally got a Brooks after having tried everything else, and was hooked. All of my bikes are fitted with Brooks B17 saddles. The B17 is wide enough that I can ride for hours without needing cycling shorts, but not so wide that it chafes.
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Originally Posted by Ghazmh
(Post 22584011)
I’d order a Brooks saddle.
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