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Ged117 04-26-23 07:23 AM


Originally Posted by SirMike1983 (Post 22871711)
The mid-1950s Sturmey hubs, like that 1953, are excellent parts to have on hand. They are early enough that they don't have the cost cutting of later hubs, but late enough that they don't have some of the quirky parts of the early hubs.

I've been lucky finding earlier hubs. I have a '56 AW in nice shape that I found in a co-op bin among battered '70s hubs (a diamond in the rough - I was amazed it hadn't been snatched up). I found a late 50s Raleigh Canadian (in essence a Sports with Canada-specific paint work and decals), with a 1958 AW (I was worried it would be an SW, so it must've been right when they switched back to the AW). That bike was in a barn and the hub has the end of an old pencil for an oil cap, and needs rebuilding...

vintagebicycle 04-29-23 12:52 PM

Sunbeam in NJ
 
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...24870149495843



https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...17ac781e09.jpg

nlerner 04-29-23 12:58 PM

Are any of you contributors to this thread heading to Minnesota for the Lake Pepin 3-speed Tour later in May? I signed up last week and plan to bring my '38 Maclean Featherweight with an FW rear hub (yes, 4-speed, but there are allowances).

1989Pre 04-30-23 10:29 AM

I put eight miles in on the Rudge in a light rain and 45F degrees. I just wore my winter parka, which has a zip-out fleece and a water-proof, rubberized helmet. I was glad I did it. Came home and am on my second cup of Earl Grey tea. Yum. What are the stiffest after-market insoles I can use in my oxfords? Sorry no photos, but just imagine me trying every 45 seconds to roll back the front of my huge, yellow hood. Saw one other cyclist, two walkers and two runners on our 2.6-mile M.U.P. Medium rain began almost as soon as I got home. I have to get my miles in for the Trek Across Maine. No excuses (or not many, anyway...).

gna 04-30-23 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by nlerner (Post 22874934)
Are any of you contributors to this thread heading to Minnesota for the Lake Pepin 3-speed Tour later in May? I signed up last week and plan to bring my '38 Maclean Featherweight with an FW rear hub (yes, 4-speed, but there are allowances).

I'm already here, but yes I will be heading to Red Wing. Haven't made up my mind if I want to ride my Sports, my 20, or my new to me DL-1.

bikamper 04-30-23 03:49 PM


Originally Posted by nlerner (Post 22874934)
Are any of you contributors to this thread heading to Minnesota for the Lake Pepin 3-speed Tour later in May? I signed up last week and plan to bring my '38 Maclean Featherweight with an FW rear hub (yes, 4-speed, but there are allowances).

I'll be there for maybe my 10th ride. I'll have my looks like hell 23" Bitsa Sports with some modern-ish accouterments. Looking forward to meeting you and seeing your Maclean.

gna 05-01-23 12:42 PM

The pads for my DL-1 showed up, but they look like regular brake pads. Shouldn't they be curved?
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...11e828831c.jpg

SirMike1983 05-01-23 01:41 PM

Some of the rod brake pads come pre-rounded and some do not. They will take a shape as they wear-in with use. You can also pre-round them by sanding them down a bit if you want immediate full contact.

cudak888 05-01-23 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by gna (Post 22876816)
The pads for my DL-1 showed up, but they look like regular brake pads. Shouldn't they be curved?

That's not going to fit. Rod brakes use shoes with a mount 90 degrees to the braking surface, not inline with it.

Keep your original pad holders and get these Kool-Stops: https://www.amazon.com/Kool-Stop-Rou...005FKP3HA?th=1

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1fe0d2f242.jpg

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...15c82167b7.jpg

-Kurt

gna 05-01-23 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by cudak888 (Post 22876970)
That's not going to fit. Rod brakes use shoes with a mount 90 degrees to the braking surface, not inline with it.

Keep your original pad holders and get these Kool-Stops: https://www.amazon.com/Kool-Stop-Rounded-Philips-Holders/dp/B005FKP3HA?th=

-Kurt

Unfortunately, the brake shoes don't look like they have pad holders--they're closed all around the rubber. Don't look quite like yours.
I found the number of SH144 or ASH144 searching the forum.

cudak888 05-01-23 11:34 PM


Originally Posted by gna (Post 22876984)
Unfortunately, the brake shoes don't look like they have pad holders--they're closed all around the rubber. Don't look quite like yours.
I found the number of SH144 or ASH144 searching the forum.

This is what the current Fibrax model looks like that's DL-1 compatible:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/23348756806...Bk9SR6ComK_7YQ

These are the 144's:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Bik...-/252460875293

-Kurt

SirMike1983 05-02-23 07:09 AM

Kurt is correct about how those particular brakes you photographed mount - those look like the brakes for a Raleigh Sports type caliper brake.

1989Pre 05-02-23 09:25 AM

Flooding on the Lower Androscoggin
 
I tried to ride the M.U.P. today, but it seems that I was unaware of the worst flooding in over 20 years. I didn't know how deep it was, so I rode past a roadie who had stopped before the water and I continued. The water was thirty-three inches deep when I got off my Rudge and turned it back around. The roadie commented, "Thanks! I didn't know how deep it was!" Anyway, I tried, and gave the roadie a show of what three-speeds can do (or almost can do).Lots of leaves and sticks and stuff I had to wipe off the bike, afterward.

cudak888 05-02-23 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by 1989Pre (Post 22877712)
I tried to ride the M.U.P. today, but it seems that I was unaware of the worst flooding in over 20 years. I didn't know how deep it was, so I rode past a roadie who had stopped before the water and I continued. The water was thirty-three inches deep when I got off my Rudge and turned it back around. The roadie commented, "Thanks! I didn't know how deep it was!" Anyway, I tried, and gave the roadie a show of what three-speeds can do (or almost can do).Lots of leaves and sticks and stuff I had to wipe off the bike, afterward. Anyone else have a story of high-water traverse while riding your three-speed? (I'd send you a photo of me in my wet cargo shorts, but it would just look like a guy who fell victim to bladder problems).

Could that water have had any salt in it from any nearby water mass?

If so, pull your wheels, dismount your tires, and get the water out of your rims before they rot from the inside out. Use a compressor to blow water out of the folds in the rim too.

-Kurt

1989Pre 05-02-23 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by cudak888 (Post 22877777)
Could that water have had any salt in it from any nearby water mass?

If so, pull your wheels, dismount your tires, and get the water out of your rims before they rot from the inside out. Use a compressor to blow water out of the folds in the rim too.

-Kurt

Thanks for this advice. We are about seven miles up the river, so we are tidal, but fresh water. Do you think I jeopardized the electrical system on the bike? (the front lamp did not go under water).

cudak888 05-02-23 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by 1989Pre (Post 22877793)
Thanks for this advice. We are about seven miles up the river, so we are tidal, but fresh water. Do you think I jeopardized the electrical system on the bike? (the front lamp did not go under water).

How far was the bike itself submerged? Not the entire 33", was it?

If so, this might warrant Rick Smith to come out of retirement and write one more Yehuda Moon comic strip :lol:

-Kurt

eatontkd 05-02-23 10:46 AM

1953 Rudge... a bit modernized...
Before
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...92527972c5.jpg
After...
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...4cdfe73b65.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...08abfa8681.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a69546f936.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...0f00b6255c.jpg

1989Pre 05-02-23 10:55 AM

"The water was thirty-three inches deep when I got off my Rudge and turned it back around."

I do not know who Rick Smith is. I tried that link but was warned of an insecure connection, so did not continue.

cudak888 05-02-23 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by 1989Pre (Post 22877836)
"The water was thirty-three inches deep when I got off my Rudge and turned it back around."

I do not know who Rick Smith is. I tried that link but was warned of an insecure connection, so did not continue.

Gotcha. I had assumed you might have been partially submerged and noted 33" from a trailside depth scale. Looks as if your Rudge is an honorary submarine.

Most of the wiring on these bikes is stainless and copper, so I'd shoot it with some electrical cleaner and cross my fingers.

Rick Smith is the author of Yehuda Moon and the Kickstand Cyclery comic strip. The titular character is the sort who rides upright bars, 3-speeds, and wears a rain cape lest he doesn't have a day when he's commuting on a bike. Yehuda riding into a bike-swallowing pond on his commute is something I'd expect straight out of that strip.

-Kurt

1989Pre 05-02-23 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by cudak888 (Post 22877839)
Gotcha. I had assumed you might have been partially submerged and noted 33" from a trailside depth scale. Looks as if your Rudge is an honorary submarine.

Most of the wiring on these bikes is stainless and copper, so I'd shoot it with some electrical cleaner and cross my fingers.

Rick Smith is the author of Yehuda Moon and the Kickstand Cyclery comic strip. The titular character is the sort who rides upright bars, 3-speeds, and wears a rain cape lest he doesn't have a day when he's commuting on a bike. Yehuda riding into a bike-swallowing pond on his commute is something I'd expect straight out of that strip.

-Kurt

Thanks again. I did spy my Carradice bag 1/4 full of water one hour after I returned! It's drying out nicely, now. I checked out a few of Mr. Smith's comic strips, and although they have a lack of joy, there is a certain truth to them. I hope it never floods like this again, because I am not eager to damage or compromise my bicycle(s).. I had gone about 75 feet into the water, and the puddle was about 300 feet long.

Ged117 05-02-23 01:39 PM

Folks,

I have an acquaintance with a '50s Roadster in Toronto, and he's looking for rod brake wheels/rims (26"). I thought they were all 28", but I stand to be corrected. I thought this would be the best place to ask.

cudak888 05-02-23 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by Ged117 (Post 22878010)
I have an acquaintance with a '50s Roadster in Toronto, and he's looking for rod brake wheels/rims (26"). I thought they were all 28", but I stand to be corrected. I thought this would be the best place to ask.

Try the Raleigh Roadsters Facebook group too. Whatever you do, steer clear of those reproductions that are on eBay from the UK. The braking area is wobbly and they're impossible to true.

-Kurt

thumpism 05-02-23 05:49 PM

Took the Sports for a ride today for the first time in a looongg time, just three miles around the neighborhood but it's been over a year since I got severely distracted by house projects. Different saddle and stem/bar combo needed and they're waiting in the wings but it'll be a while before any bike work takes place.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...13e42f0369.jpg

1989Pre 05-03-23 05:33 AM


Originally Posted by cudak888 (Post 22877839)
Most of the wiring on these bikes is stainless and copper, so I'd shoot it with some electrical cleaner and cross my fingers.-Kurt

The Dynohub system works just fine. I just wanted to give an update, and a salute to Sturmey designers.

cudak888 05-03-23 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by 1989Pre (Post 22878532)
The Dynohub system works just fine. I just wanted to give an update, and a salute to Sturmey designers.

Had no question that the Dynohub would make it out - those things will survive any apocalypse.

-Kurt


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