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clubman 08-14-17 07:47 AM

That's so cool. Tell me that doesn't look like a Sturmey Dyno hub with the armature exposed. 48 holes, tough to get that gauge of spoke these days. Super!
http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...7&d=1502712527

Velocivixen 08-14-17 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by clubman (Post 19790747)
That's so cool. Tell me that doesn't look like a Sturmey Dyno hub with the armature exposed. 48 holes, tough to get that gauge of spoke these days. Super!
http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...7&d=1502712527

I concur! Is that a turbine?

Ballenxj 08-14-17 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by gster (Post 19790558)
This weekend I had the opportunity to visit a small hydro-electric power station in the Ottawa Valley.
This station was built in 1907 and is still running the original Westinghouse generators built in 1905!
These were designed by the great Nikola Tesla. I'd like to see something built today that will work continuously for 100+ years!

Proof that things really were built better in the old days?
Nikola Tesla was a great man that was ripped off by a well known person, but that's not a story for here.
Thanks for the photos. Very enjoyable. :thumb:

gster 08-14-17 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Velocivixen (Post 19790832)
I concur! Is that a turbine?

Strictly speaking, it's a generator when current flows out. Should current flow in, it would be a motor.
There is a double "turbine" connected to the shaft that extends into the water/sluiceway.
Something like this.
Attachment 576115

gster 08-14-17 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by Ballenxj (Post 19790858)
Proof that things really were built better in the old days?
Nikola Tesla was a great man that was ripped off by a well known person, but that's not a story for here.
Thanks for the photos. Very enjoyable. :thumb:

According to the engineer, the coils in these generators were rebuilt in the 70's, not because there was anything wrong with them, they were upgraded to put out more power. So yes, built to last, as were our English bicycles.

bicyclridr4life 08-14-17 09:55 AM


Originally Posted by plympton (Post 19787289)
When I restored the John Deere I had the frame and pan sand blasted at a cemetery monument shop. Great on steel frames not good on sheet metal. There's much talk about glass bead blasting as easier on the metal. When I restored the 56 outboard I stripped every part by hand, long tedious process, bike frame and fenders would be easier. Both paint jobs where from rattle cans. In both cases the rattle cans were job specific; I mean that the John Deere spray can and the Gale outboard can were designed not to sputter at the end. Rustoleum and Krylon spit as the paint runs out. It wasn't necessarily any skill of mine that helped the paint job look nice. When I first posted on this site I asked about Raleigh paint. I'm still asking, I could pick from anyone of a dozen black paints. What is the correct Raleigh Black?

The stripping doesn't bother me. Part of the process. I would have to research the paint and primers and try to build confidence in my skills as a painter.

As an ex-auto body repairman, I can tell you "black is black" the same paint code for black paint was used regardless of what make the car was. The "Black Pearl" they've come up with since I got out of that line of work would be different, of course.
White, on the other hand, had 50 different mixing codes.

johnnyspaghetti 08-14-17 10:53 AM

How does one acquire a key for a 1969 Raleigh Superbe fork?

Salubrious 08-14-17 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by johnnyspaghetti (Post 19791279)
How does one acquire a key for a 1969 Raleigh Superbe fork?

Get the number off the lock and then goto ebay...

johnnyspaghetti 08-14-17 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by Salubrious (Post 19791393)
Get the number off the lock and then goto ebay...

Thank you very much

Velocivixen 08-14-17 02:02 PM

@clubman & @ gster- so those are for hydroelectric use? If not, what exactly are they used for?
My magnet keeper will definitely not work on that if it were a dynamo hub....;)

clubman 08-14-17 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by Velocivixen (Post 19791793)
@clubman & @ gster- so those are for hydroelectric use? If not, what exactly are they used for?
My magnet keeper will definitely not work on that if it were a dynamo hub....;)

Great! Another chance for me to make an idiot of myself. Electricity is a black art for me.
With our dyno hubs, the hub spins coils of wire around a fixed magnet inducing a current. In the picture, it appears there's something high speed spinning with the axle (magnets?) and the coils are fixed in place. You can see a blue blur in the somewhat empty middle.

How did I do? (calling electrical engineers...)

Salubrious 08-14-17 02:55 PM

It doesn't matter which spins- the magnets or the armature. Either way current is induced in the wire.

thumpism 08-15-17 05:43 AM

Sorry, this one's English but it's a four-speed.

https://richmond.craigslist.org/bik/...263967235.html

1965 Alex Moulton F-Frame City Bicycle England RARE!! - $425 (Chesapeake Great Bridge)

https://images.craigslist.org/00R0R_...1s_600x450.jpg

1965 Alex Moulton F-Frame Commuter All Original

4-Speed Sturmey Archer that works, Brooks seat, dual suspension and 16 inch wheels.
Alex Moulton invented this small wheel commuter bicycle in 1962 in England.
This is a early example of one of his bikes, hard to find and collectible. Ready to ride.

3speedslow 08-15-17 12:01 PM

Had a Twenty pop up on the local CL. Pic won't load but it would be a rust project for sure. Looks complete but strangely the owner won't say a price..

gster 08-15-17 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by 3speedslow (Post 19794057)
Had a Twenty pop up on the local CL. Pic won't load but it would be a rust project for sure. Looks complete but strangely the owner won't say a price..

Vintage Collectable.

Ballenxj 08-16-17 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by 3speedslow (Post 19794057)
Had a Twenty pop up on the local CL. Pic won't load but it would be a rust project for sure. Looks complete but strangely the owner won't say a price..

Offer $20. and see what they say? ;)

treebound 08-16-17 09:02 AM

Took a lap around the business park this morning on the 1974 Raleigh
https://i.imgur.com/PAGuYex.jpg

treebound 08-16-17 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by 3speedslow (Post 19794057)
Had a Twenty pop up on the local CL. Pic won't load but it would be a rust project for sure. Looks complete but strangely the owner won't say a price..

I've found that when the "seller" won't state a price then they are running a silent auction trying to be clever and thinking they have something worth much more than it usually is. Offer $500, see what they say, then say no thanks because you found a better one for free in your cousin's chicken coop.

3speedslow 08-16-17 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by treebound (Post 19796098)
Took a lap around the business park this morning on the 1974 Raleigh
https://i.imgur.com/PAGuYex.jpg

You make it sound so simple but some of those business parks are HUGH! I bet it was a nice ride.

3speedslow 08-16-17 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by treebound (Post 19796108)
I've found that when the "seller" won't state a price then they are running a silent auction trying to be clever and thinking they have something worth much more than it usually is. Offer $500, see what they say, then say no thanks because you found a better one for free in your cousin's chicken coop.

I got a chuckle out of that. The ad had most every word misspelled and so did the email replies. I got the feeling like they really thought they had struck gold with this English bike. I will still ask them again and see if they respond.

rhm 08-16-17 12:29 PM

I passed a pile of bike parts about a mile from home yesterday so (naturally) I stopped for a little look see. Extracted a Raleigh-built girl's Armstrong, complete but for wheels and chain.

Photos tomorrow maybe.

It's a little strange, though. Standard Raleigh frame, fenders, stem, handlebar, crank, chain guard; but no serial number and no brakes. No cables of any kind. Must have been a coaster brake one-speed. 18" frame. The remains of a low end Idéale saddle were included, the nose hardware missing.

Anyone have an EA3 / 650a coaster brake wheel you want to be rid of?

noglider 08-16-17 01:58 PM

@rhm, I think some Malaysia-made bikes lacked serial numbers.

treebound 08-16-17 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by 3speedslow (Post 19796270)
You make it sound so simple but some of those business parks are HUGH! I bet it was a nice ride.

A perimeter lap is about 3.5 miles. I usually take walks and by taking different roads I can do loops anywhere from a mile to 3+ miles. Garmin shows today's average speed around 12.4 mph with a max speed of 17.4 mph, I never really got into 3rd gear. Nice change from walking. I'm thinking of extending a ride tomorrow to connect to the local MUP during lunch. I'll have to bring my helmet in so I'll have a mirror, and will need to raise the seat a bit higher (hopefully the seatpost is long enough).

treebound 08-17-17 12:28 PM

12.86 mile lunchtime ride today ending in a little rain. Escaped from the business park and rode a section of the Oak Leaf trail.
https://i.imgur.com/39Qm3X0.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/WzfDAk1.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/A9zYG7y.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/l9bvoVI.jpg

Quantumxl 08-17-17 12:38 PM

There is this 1968 Raleigh DL-1 24 inch that I want to purchase for $175. I am fairly new to this market and was wondering if this price seems bad? The market that I am in has them priced out at $300+ in great condition. This one has rust on the chain guard and some on the rims. I honestly think it might be a little too big (I am 5"8') but I am either expecting to flip it or restoring it and putting it on my wall.


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