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flammenwurfer 10-31-12 07:02 AM

slowtostart: Do you have a close-up or a different angle shot of that rack? It looks like it's a weird shape. The axle bolt and the fender eyelets are very different sizes. I'm not sure how you would switch from one to the other unless there are different sized holes on the rack supports. However, if it's possible I would get it mounted to the eyelets. Taking the back wheel off for flats etc. will be less hassle if you don't have to deal with the rack also.

I've never kept old chains because the ones I come across are always really gummed up. They may be in decent shape under all that gunk but chains are cheap enough that I always just put a new one on.

adventurepdx 10-31-12 02:05 PM

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slowtostart, I don't think you can mount a rack to the fender eyelets if it's designed for axle mount. I had that same issue with the original rack on my Raleigh Wayfarer. I decided to get a new modern rack, a Linus aluminum one, that mounts to fender eyelets. It doesn't look out of place on an old English three speed. And it works well with modern panniers.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=281382

BRAZUCA 10-31-12 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by CycleRail (Post 14891771)
Hi all. I've been commuting on a 1972 Raleigh Sports for about a year now. :thumb: About 7 miles a day. I've grown to really love this bicycle. It's been very reliable. I recently replaced the saddle. Pictures follow.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8190/8...ed83443f_z.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8046/8...34f570db7c.jpg

Beautiful bike, really beautiful and the new saddle is a great addition! Good to know that you are commuting with it and no problems at all. Congrats!

akcapbikeforums 11-01-12 05:00 AM

The Linus rack is also adjustable, which gives a chance that it will actually look right when it's installed...
but spendy $$$ ($50):

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/00...4_grande.jpg?0

gna 11-01-12 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by akcapbikeforums (Post 14902052)
The Linus rack is also adjustable, which gives a chance that it will actually look right when it's installed...
but spendy $$$ ($50):

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/00...4_grande.jpg?0

Do you use P-clamps to mount it to the seat stays?

CycleRail 11-01-12 10:54 AM

Thanks Brazuca. It's amazing how these old Raleighs hold up.

flammenwurfer 11-01-12 12:08 PM

Does anybody know if Zefal Lapize pump will fit in the pump pegs of a Raleigh Sports? The Lapize states a length of 380mm. I measure approximately 400mm between my pegs. I'm wondering if 380mm is the measurement of the pump without the hose attachment inserted into the head of the pump.

Does anybody use a zefal lapize on their Sports? I have a cheap steel Sunlite pump that fits great on my pegs right now and it's 16 inches (406.4mm). Seems like the Lapize would be too short.

w1xq 11-01-12 04:02 PM

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Trying to catch up on this thread. See alot of nice bikes! Wanted to share my 1971 Royal Scot. Fun bike to ride!!

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=281552

w1xq 11-01-12 08:35 PM

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I also have a 1970 Hercules that I also ride. Was really a basket case when I got it off CL for 20 bucks.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=281605

adventurepdx 11-02-12 01:17 AM


Originally Posted by akcapbikeforums (Post 14902052)
The Linus rack is also adjustable, which gives a chance that it will actually look right when it's installed...
but spendy $$$ ($50):

Eh, I don't think $50 is too spendy in this day and age. Sure, you can find cheaper generic racks, but compared to the Tubus/Nitto/VO/etc racks of the world, $50 is pretty mid-range.

adventurepdx 11-02-12 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by gna (Post 14902658)
Do you use P-clamps to mount it to the seat stays?

Yep. Here's a more detailed photo of my Linus rack mounted to seat stays.
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=281622

flammenwurfer 11-02-12 07:21 AM

Very nice bikes w1xq! I don't think I've ever seen a Royal Scot before. Hercules is also not very common around here, but they both look great!

Elad63 11-02-12 08:35 AM

slowtostart. I have some extra chains if you need one. Love the new addition. I am still riding my Sports.

gna 11-02-12 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by flammenwurfer (Post 14905777)
Very nice bikes w1xq! I don't think I've ever seen a Royal Scot before. Hercules is also not very common around here, but they both look great!

My friend has a Gold Royal Scot:

http://photos.imageevent.com/abce/th.../CIMG49481.JPG

I've also seen a few black ones. It was a Raleigh-built store brand, apparently.

slowtostart 11-02-12 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by Elad63 (Post 14906039)
slowtostart. I have some extra chains if you need one. Love the new addition. I am still riding my Sports.

http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4a57339f.jpg

This one, a gift from the quoted and very generous BF member, is my absolute favorite commuter. In fact, I rode it during Sandy earlier this week. Can you imagine someone simply showing up with one of these and asking if you'd like to have it? As you can see, she does a great job of hauling just about anything. This is the way she looked after today's rainy commute.

I hope I may someday return the favor and offer heartfelt thanks.

nlerner 11-02-12 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by flammenwurfer (Post 14905777)
Very nice bikes w1xq! I don't think I've ever seen a Royal Scot before. Hercules is also not very common around here, but they both look great!

I sold a Royal Scot a few weeks ago. I bought it on eBay as a frameset plus crankset, fenders, and chain guard. My intent was to build a lightweight 3-speed (alu rims, alu stem and bars), but kind of lost interest and ended up selling it off with a wheelset from a Raleigh Sports and other somewhat random bits (though that's the original chain guard):

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-J...17C7FDC2DC.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-z...BE38D8135A.JPG

flammenwurfer 11-02-12 05:32 PM

Pretty cool bike nlerner. I like the head badge and that chain guard is sweet!

Snagged another 3 speed today. This one is a Huffy Sportsman with hub date of 1959. The paint has seen better days but isn't awful and everything seems to be in workable condition.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-A...102_175728.jpg

flammenwurfer 11-02-12 05:43 PM

Almost forgot, does anybody know what this hole behind the chainring is for?
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-M...102_175803.jpg

It also has an oil port on the bottom bracket. Does anybody still oil their bottom bracket?
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-V...102_175833.jpg

gna 11-02-12 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by flammenwurfer (Post 14907929)
Almost forgot, does anybody know what this hole behind the chainring is for?
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-M...102_175803.jpg

That's to mount a chaincase. Your bike is essentially a Raleigh, imported by Huffy.


It also has an oil port on the bottom bracket. Does anybody still oil their bottom bracket?
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-V...102_175833.jpg
I've met a few. They say it's easier. One does need to wipe the old oil off every now and then.

jrecoi 11-02-12 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by flammenwurfer (Post 14907929)
Almost forgot, does anybody know what this hole behind the chainring is for?
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-M...102_175803.jpg

It also has an oil port on the bottom bracket. Does anybody still oil their bottom bracket?
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-V...102_175833.jpg

That hole behind the chainring is for a chaincase, usually they are threaded for a 1/4" Whitworth screw. If you managed to obtain a Raleigh chaincase, you are in luck, you remove the right crank, and fit the chaincase on with the screw, and you are set and in business.

Yellow Jersey sells chaincases that are rather compatible, the only catch is that you'll have to carefully measure and drill out the corresponding hole in the chaincase yourself, oh and do some careful bending to quiet down any rubbing. These can be freely stripped and repainted to match the Huffy's color.

The BB oiler is really useful to anyone who does not want to touch cotters, just add some oil and any gunk that has been building up will flush out. Just don't oil it over carpet! Regularly oiling it will keep the BB very smooth, I opened the BB on my Raleigh Sports, and the bearing surfaces were in NOS condition. The front hub will also have an oiling port, covered in a campagnolo style circlip.

loubapache 11-02-12 08:27 PM

I read every post in this thread because I love these old speed bikes. So far I only have 5 American 3-speed bikes with Shimano hubs. I am thinking about getting some English ones.

Here is a 1961 Armstrong that is close to me. It is missing the chaincase and a bit rusty. The front hub seems to be oil lubed.

What do you think? How much is it worth? Thanks.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/160907949485...84.m1423.l2648

Juggler2 11-02-12 09:38 PM

Well, "I" think it's a little steep at $275.00 but there are more knowledgeable guys around here than me.

nlerner 11-02-12 10:03 PM

It's worth what you're willing to pay. Personally, I wouldn't pay more than $75 for that bike, especially because it's missing its chain guard!

rjhammett 11-02-12 10:03 PM

That guy looks familiar. Does he know you posted it?


Originally Posted by gna (Post 14906339)
My friend has a Gold Royal Scot:

http://photos.imageevent.com/abce/th.../CIMG49481.JPG

I've also seen a few black ones. It was a Raleigh-built store brand, apparently.


loubapache 11-03-12 06:43 AM

RE: the Armstrong.

That is about the price locally. His price is including shipping in the CONUS.

I have seen the bike. It also comes with the original bent rear wheel so it has an extra 3-speed hub. The rear fender is actually from a different Raleigh bike.

The missing chain guard is a problem.

yellowbarber 11-03-12 08:23 AM

the hole behind the chainring is the mount for a full chaincase - if you can find one for a 26" wheel'd frame


Originally Posted by flammenwurfer (Post 14907929)
Almost forgot, does anybody know what this hole behind the chainring is for?
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-M...102_175803.jpg

It also has an oil port on the bottom bracket. Does anybody still oil their bottom bracket?


wahoonc 11-03-12 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by yellowbarber (Post 14909287)
the hole behind the chainring is the mount for a full chaincase - if you can find one for a 26" wheel'd frame

Yellow Jersey has them I have one for my 28" wheeled roadster, haven't gotten around to the install process yet.

Aaron :)

gna 11-03-12 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by rjhammett (Post 14908611)
That guy looks familiar. Does he know you posted it?

I better ask if it's ok. The picture is already on the interwebs, from the 2009 ABCE Pictures, so I didn't think he'd mind.

Sixty Fiver 11-03-12 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by flammenwurfer (Post 14907929)
It also has an oil port on the bottom bracket. Does anybody still oil their bottom bracket?

My '54 and '55 Raleighs are oilers... the '55 has ports for oil on the bb and front and rear hubs and is about as slick and smooth as they come while the '54 has a modern front wheel that has no oil port.

I also use oil to lube the bb on my '57 Peugeot and administer this via the seat tube as it has no oil port.

loubapache 11-03-12 11:25 AM

Sixty Fiver: What oil do you use, a relative thick one?


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