Originally Posted by gster
(Post 20620121)
At least if you switch back to a smaller cog, you can just shorten the chain and not buy a new one...
P.S. I'm proposing a new PBS segment on local TV. Cog Talk 15 minutes a week Phone in show w /special guests. Hopefully prizes (cogs) |
Originally Posted by noglider
(Post 20620502)
youtube is amazing. On youtube, I learned how to braid round challah bread, how to snake out a clogged sewer line, and how to make a heat tolerant gasket. I've watched Dan's videos on IGHs, and I haven't needed them, but I just plain enjoy them.
OMG I just saw that Dan has his videos in French, too! Quelle vrai Canadien! |
Originally Posted by Dan Burkhart
(Post 20620374)
I'm trouble shooting a hub of that model right now. Pretty sure I've identified the issues with it and will be posting a youtube video when I'm done, likely in a day or two.
Look forward to your video. https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...902417123b.jpg BSA 3 Speed 'X' Type Hub 90% Stripped |
Originally Posted by PeterLYoung
(Post 20620744)
Dan: Here is my 'Spare' BSA 3 Speed Hub Stripped, had hell of a job getting L/H End Plate (left hand thread) undone, used WD 40 + heating it up, eventually it gave in and came undone. I have stripped it as far as I needed to ascertain condition of parts so it is 90% dismantled. L/H Hub Cone is badly pitted, must have been run for some time in dry condition, also one of its ball bearings had escaped the cage and was inside the body of the hub. Rest of it looks OK after I cleaned all the dirt out (there was a lot).
Look forward to your video. https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...902417123b.jpg BSA 3 Speed 'X' Type Hub 90% Stripped |
Originally Posted by Dan Burkhart
(Post 20620766)
You may be able to fit a new cone if you can find one of a similar radius profile. The axle is a 3/8 x 26, so your chances are pretty good. Unlikely that the shield that presses on to the cone would fit though, so you would have to figure out another way to shield the bearing.
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New Hudson Sports
Hello everyone,
I was wondering if anyone here could help me date my New Hudson sports. I got the frame in an extremely pitiful state so the only things that are original to the bike are the crank, fenders, and seat post; this has made dating it a bit more difficult. I know that the bike originally came with a single speed coaster brake bsa rear hub. The lack of a white stripe on the back of the fender places it as pre-war but I'm very curious about getting a more exact date. https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...cf9399cae8.jpg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...0a3a6a150e.jpg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...dc7098b070.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...fa79fa63c2.jpg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...9fc7d81398.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...410a4a9cec.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b9d0fd1990.jpg |
Originally Posted by JaccoW
(Post 20620469)
If you want the matching BSA dynohub, there is one for sale here: Sturmey Archer Vintage (BSA Front Hub Dino In Full Working Order Approx 1955 - Ebay.co.uk
Just ask the seller if he is willing to ship to the US EDIT: Nevermind I see the bike has a front brake hub. But Thanks anyway!!! |
Originally Posted by F.Bacchus
(Post 20620953)
Hello everyone,
I was wondering if anyone here could help me date my New Hudson sports. I got the frame in an extremely pitiful state so the only things that are original to the bike are the crank, fenders, and seat post; this has made dating it a bit more difficult. I know that the bike originally came with a single speed coaster brake bsa rear hub. The lack of a white stripe on the back of the fender places it as pre-war but I'm very curious about getting a more exact date. https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...cf9399cae8.jpg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...0a3a6a150e.jpg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...dc7098b070.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...fa79fa63c2.jpg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...9fc7d81398.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...410a4a9cec.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b9d0fd1990.jpg This is all the information/documents on New Hudson in the VCC Library. You need to be a member to access these documents. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3d2f3ace91.png From New Hudson 1956 Catalogue on Veteran Cycle Club Library, Last year they have a catalogue for. https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...84a8f2104d.png The top Sports Model looks very similar to yours, this is from the 1954 Catalogue. |
Originally Posted by F.Bacchus
(Post 20620953)
Hello everyone,
I was wondering if anyone here could help me date my New Hudson sports. I got the frame in an extremely pitiful state so the only things that are original to the bike are the crank, fenders, and seat post; this has made dating it a bit more difficult. I know that the bike originally came with a single speed coaster brake bsa rear hub. The lack of a white stripe on the back of the fender places it as pre-war but I'm very curious about getting a more exact date. https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...cf9399cae8.jpg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...0a3a6a150e.jpg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...dc7098b070.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...fa79fa63c2.jpg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...9fc7d81398.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...410a4a9cec.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b9d0fd1990.jpg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e8eb837ba4.png |
Wow, the chrome on the fenders and the fenders (ehem, mudgards) themselves look great. The cranks too. It looks like the chainring was done a separate from the cranks or maybe the setting need to be different from the cranks? I wouldn't think that would be the case thought.
Nice bike. It is interesting to note that there is no roller for the 3 speed cable. Only cable housing. Does it shift smoothly. I imagine it does as long as the housing is nice and lubed. |
Originally Posted by F.Bacchus
(Post 20620953)
Hello everyone,
I was wondering if anyone here could help me date my New Hudson sports. |
Originally Posted by clubman
(Post 20621333)
The white fender rule doesn't apply here. Yours is a Raleigh made New Hudson and is therefore 57 or later. Serial numbers are only useful to a point since Raleigh lost most records in a fire. US frames of this timeframe usually had an RA prefix, Canada had an RC prefix but hard dates are impossible. Usually the 3 speed hub indicates the year or year before assembly. What's your numbers?
I was an idiot and threw out the original wheelset because they were almost literally made of rust and I didn't realise the value of the hub. Current wheels are replacements. The original was a single speed bsa coaster brake going off memory.
Originally Posted by Velo Mule
(Post 20621325)
Nice bike. It is interesting to note that there is no roller for the 3 speed cable. Only cable housing. Does it shift smoothly. I imagine it does as long as the housing is nice and lubed.
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I might add that your bike has unusual features. The fork has a non Raleigh standard headset, which happens on occasion. It could be your fork was old stock when Raleigh assembled it and therefore had the older British standard thread. Or the steerer was re-threaded at a later date. Not common but I once had a Nottingham Sports with a campy headset. The decals do look pre Raleigh but the rear mudguard stay location behind the axle is a Raleigh giveaway. That and the Raleigh stamped parts.
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Originally Posted by F.Bacchus
(Post 20621360)
Serial number is on the top of the seat lug, 2003027.
I was an idiot and threw out the original wheelset because they were almost literally made of rust and I didn't realise the value of the hub. Current wheels are replacements. The original was a single speed bsa coaster brake going off memory. |
Originally Posted by clubman
(Post 20621363)
I might add that your bike has unusual features. The fork has a non Raleigh standard headset, which happens on occasion. It could be your fork was old stock when Raleigh assembled it and therefore had the older British standard thread. Or the steerer was re-threaded at a later date. Not common but I once had a Nottingham Sports with a campy headset. The decals do look pre Raleigh but the rear mudguard stay location behind the axle is a Raleigh giveaway. That and the Raleigh stamped parts.
Edit: decided to look at the rear reflector to see who it was made by. Unfortunately it's broken but the text that remains reads "B.S.A.U 40 LI LIC.2628 FAIRYLITES BRITISH MADE I 32". I think a Raleigh made bike would have a sturmey reflector? Could the I 32 be a date code for January 1932? https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1a93082ec1.jpg |
The Raleigh frame is post1963 since there is no lug on the drive side chainstay for an enclosed chain case. There's no lug for the 3 point chainguard which was added in the late 60s. So, from what I see, I'll call the frame 1963- 1967.
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Originally Posted by PeterLYoung
(Post 20620744)
Look forward to your video.
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Great job!!! I really appreciate your work on this. I wish I had a video like this back when I did the S5. These videos are a wonderful asset for our hobby. Hope to see more.
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Originally Posted by Dan Burkhart
(Post 20622725)
Here it is. Quite lengthy. I will try to edit it down a bit when I get a chance. Also don't have the closed captioning edited yet, so it will be the always comical voice to text version for now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvKyiajpTEo Thanks |
Originally Posted by agmetal
(Post 20620558)
I have the headlamp working with an LED bulb (I got one with a 3000K "warm white" color, so it actually looks similar to an incandescent when lit up), but haven't been able to find a suitable bulb for the rear yet. A friend and I are discussing how to reduce the flicker, and whether the smoothing/standlight(?) circuit can be built into a form small enough to fit inside the housing of the light.
He has lots of useful information on the website. |
There are several simple circuits on that website for using either capacitors, for a short standlight, or nicad cells. Also how to recharge nicads,from a Dynohub or generator, also simple voltage regulators that mount on Dynohub terminals. (probably zener diodes).
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Originally Posted by butch50
(Post 20623901)
There are several simple circuits on that website for using either capacitors, for a short standlight, or nicad cells. Also how to recharge nicads,from a Dynohub or generator, also simple voltage regulators that mount on Dynohub terminals. (probably zener diodes).
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Originally Posted by Dan Burkhart
(Post 20622725)
Here it is. Quite lengthy. I will try to edit it down a bit when I get a chance. Also don't have the closed captioning edited yet, so it will be the always comical voice to text version for now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvKyiajpTEo |
Originally Posted by agmetal
(Post 20624759)
One thing I've always been curious about with these...how does the cable pull on the shifter compare to an AW hub? Would the shifters be interchangeable?
SA X hub shifter |
Originally Posted by BigChief
(Post 20624796)
That's a good question. Can you "flick" instead of "snap"? Of course, I don't know, but the BSA hub does seem to be an exact copy of the SA X hub. Here's a picture of the SA X hub shifter. Same as the BSA and looks similar to the later quadrant shifter. I have seen people use quadrant shifters on AW hubs. That's a lot of ifs, but there's a chance it might work. edit..Looks like Low Normal and High would be backwards though.
SA X hub shifter |
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1430cf310e.jpg
Speaking of BSA, this bike may join the fleet today. I've contacted the seller and hopefully I can get him to ride it over to my house.. Listed as a 1956. |
Originally Posted by agmetal
(Post 20624759)
One thing I've always been curious about with these...how does the cable pull on the shifter compare to an AW hub? Would the shifters be interchangeable?
In first gear, the cable is slack, as it should be, the adjustment indicator is in the proper place in second, and it pulls far enough to fully engage third. The two piece spring loaded indicator rod passes through the shift key rather than threaded into it in modern Sturmey Archer hubs. This means there is no hard stop for the indicator, and when the mechanism reaches full travel and third gear is fully engaged, the indicator can continue to travel, compressing the spring until the shifter clicks into the shift detent. http://i63.tinypic.com/2uzyplf.jpg |
Originally Posted by gster
(Post 20625070)
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1430cf310e.jpg
Speaking of BSA, this bike may join the fleet today. I've contacted the seller and hopefully I can get him to ride it over to my house.. Listed as a 1956. |
Originally Posted by BigChief
(Post 20625243)
Nice! Pre Raleigh. Dyno too. 56 sounds right from the looks of it. Already has a riser stem. Maybe it will already fit you if you raise the saddle. Looks like you'll have a chance to use one of those shifters you rebuilt.
Spoke to the owner and he's dropping it off at my house today... $80.00 (CDN) He says it's a sturmey hub so we'll see. I should have a proper stem in stock as well as a leather saddle and we'll see about the rest of it when it arrives. I had said no more small bikes but I couldn't resist a BSA at that price. |
Originally Posted by gster
(Post 20625070)
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1430cf310e.jpg
Speaking of BSA, this bike may join the fleet today. I've contacted the seller and hopefully I can get him to ride it over to my house.. Listed as a 1956. they always do. The Good Vintage frame in reasonable shape (straight) BSA chain ring Decorative front forks Dyno hub Newish front tire 1961 SA hub one good caliper Faint "Tour of Britain" decal Cranks are straight The Bad paint is rough (I will leave as is) back tire needs replacing Cables and brake pads crap vinyl saddle Cheap grips modern trigger weird modern stem Chrome fenders from an Eatons Glider crappy brake levers cranks are mis aligned cotters driven in from same side https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c400da0db0.jpg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...496fe9c8b3.jpg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...024dc5113b.jpg Somebody has clearly messed this up a bit. Not surprising for a bike 60+ years old. So I think this one's a good candidate for a semi-scorcher. I have most of the parts I need in the garage |
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