After 30 years car free, my 1-Year report on owning one again:
For 30 years, if I needed a car, I rented a car. Enterprise used to run weekend specials for $10/Day. Normally $19 t $39 a day. The good-ol' days.
A little over a year ago I bought my wife's old car, a 2003 Toyota Camry XLE. It was starting to give her too much trouble. AAA estimates owning a car now costs roughly $10,000/Year. I though some here might like to know how much it's costing me just in case you ever need or just want one. I'm old with a perfect driving record so not going to talk about insurance costs too much because it's cheap and well under 1K a year. Actually my wife picks up that bill along with her car as a "thank you" to me for providing her with a second car for whenever hers needs service, or has a flat in the driveway on a workday morning, etc. I bike or walk to work (1.5 miles) I use the car as a recreational vehicle basically. Barely put 2000 miles on it first year. I can go 2 months without seeing a gas station. When the weather is nice here I might fill the tank once each month. Fuel prices vary but right now it's about $50 a tank full. So max I spend on fuel is $600/year. The car needed some mechanical TLC which cost me just shy of $5,000 over 12 months including regular maintenance. Hopefully the big things are done (Struts, suspension, tires) and will last several years. I know many here are car "haters". Not me. I actually LOVE cars. I love having a car ready to go instantly in front of my house. However, for those 30 years I just didn't want the extra expense and my health insurance was costing me a small fortune, even tho I don't have any health issues (thankfully). I'm just too cheap to throw money into a car I barely use and can do without. Why did I finally get one? My current job has great (cheap) health insurance and my wife's car just kinda fell into my lap suddenly when she got fed up with it leaving her on the side of the road twice in a couple months. So I figured I would give it a shot. I love going to a Rails to Trails about 30 miles away and the bridge to get there does not allow bikes on it. The bridge is 24 miles long anyway. Rental cars are ridiculously expensive and hard to come by these days. And due to safety concerns I decided to stop cycling on highways and byways. The Rail-Trail is 30 miles in length one way, shaded, and perfect. The Mississippi Gulf Coast is a nice place to bike and skate, so that 60 mile drive is possible at a moment's notice as well. Those are really the only two places I go in the car other than some yearly medical checkups. For now, I'm keeping the car. I'm not getting rid of any bikes tho. One major mechanical issue or collision will put me back back in the saddle full time again. I doubt I would replace the car immediately. Cheers All! |
Originally Posted by JoeyBike
(Post 22576597)
AAA estimates owning a car now costs roughly $10,000/Year. I though some here might like to know how much it's costing me just in case you every need or just want one.
https://newsroom.aaa.com/wp-content/...chure-Live.pdf |
When I had a car that I called my own, it cost me less than $1000 per year.
Our current family car still probably comes close to that figure, if you do not factor in fuel costs. |
Originally Posted by SalsaShark
(Post 22576939)
When I had a car that I called my own, it cost me less than $1000 per year.
Our current family car still probably comes close to that figure, if you do not factor in fuel costs. |
Originally Posted by Leisesturm
(Post 22579070)
How can you not factor in fuel costs?!
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Originally Posted by Leisesturm
(Post 22579070)
How can you not factor in fuel costs?!
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You were car free, but your wife wasn’t. And you bought her car? Am I following this correctly?
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Originally Posted by SalsaShark
(Post 22579130)
Do you factor in your food costs when you tally up how much you spend on bicycles and maintenance/parts per year?
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Originally Posted by brianmcg123
(Post 22579290)
You were car free, but your wife wasn’t. And you bought her car? Am I following this correctly?
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Originally Posted by brianmcg123
(Post 22579290)
You were car free, but your wife wasn’t. And you bought her car?
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Originally Posted by Leisesturm
(Post 22579796)
Nice try but ... FAIL.
Comparing apples to apples, the price of owning a vehicle, be it an automobile or bicycle has nothing to do with fuel costs. One can own either a car or bicycle, without spending a cent on fuel. If you actually want to use the vehicle for it's intended purpose, sure you must add fuel, but if I simply want to own and admire the vehicle - I can do that wherever it sits. |
Originally Posted by Leisesturm
(Post 22579796)
Nice try but ... FAIL.
Comparing apples to apples, the price of owning a vehicle, be it an automobile or bicycle has nothing to do with fuel costs. One can own either a car or bicycle, without spending a cent on fuel. If you actually want to use the vehicle for it's intended purpose, sure you must add fuel - and now we are talking about operating costs, but if I simply want to own and admire the vehicle - I can do that wherever it sits. |
Originally Posted by brianmcg123
(Post 22579290)
You were car free, but your wife wasn’t. And you bought her car? Am I following this correctly?
Does Enterprise rental car company have to be car-free? U-Haul? Uber? Taxi companies? Public bus service? For me to be considered car-free? This what you're getting at? |
Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike
(Post 22579797)
Be prepared for some semantic gymnastics explaining how someone can do just that for 30 years and still describe himself as living "car free."
I guess the first ten years of my marriage I was homeless, because the mortgage was in my wife’s name. |
Originally Posted by JoeyBike
(Post 22580525)
We both have to be car-free for me to be car-free? Am I following this correctly?
Does Enterprise rental car company have to be car-free? U-Haul? Uber? Taxi companies? Public bus service? For me to be considered car-free? This what you're getting at? |
Originally Posted by brianmcg123
(Post 22580545)
lol. “It’s not my SUV, it’s the families SUV”.
I guess the first ten years of my marriage I was homeless, because the mortgage was in my wife’s name. |
Originally Posted by brianmcg123
(Post 22580545)
I guess the first ten years of my marriage I was homeless, because the mortgage was in my wife’s name.
^^This is why I kept an active Enterprise account. I couldn't just use her car for my personal fun. And when we took driving vacations together, we rented a car to keep the miles down on her car. You don't have to live on Mars to be car-free. Or maybe YOU do, I don't know. |
When driving, just keep a lookout for cyclists who know how to blow through stop signs and red lights.
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I’m with the OP on this… he lived car free as much as I do… I don’t drive anywhere unless it’s to run an errand for her. Yes I bought her her car 5 years ago… I personally have driven it maybe 200 miles in that time. She works night shift 30 miles away. Commuting to and from work by bicycle or public transportation is impossible. Taxi services here start at 10:00 am and end at 9:00 pm, and buses do t even run anywhere close to where she works along with the time tables to get her to or from work…
I have my own income and she has her own income. Because of her night schedule, she takes car of her own meals and I take care of my own meals. I do most of the household shopping with my bike and panniers. My income covers the rent, utilities, and half the phone bill, and all of my hobbies. Her income covers her gas, insurance, food (for herself), entertainment, and household supplies (that I go purchase by bike). She and I live two separate lives under one roof. Just like the OP, just because there is a car in the household doesn’t mean I get to see any of the perks or benefits of it. |
Originally Posted by Daniel4
(Post 22582502)
When driving, just keep a lookout for cyclists who know how to blow through stop signs and red lights.
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Originally Posted by M Rose
(Post 22582729)
Just like the OP, just because there is a car in the household doesn’t mean I get to see any of the perks or benefits of it.
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Originally Posted by M Rose
(Post 22582729)
I’m with the OP on this… he lived car free as much as I do… I don’t drive anywhere unless it’s to run an errand for her. Yes I bought her her car 5 years ago… I personally have driven it maybe 200 miles in that time. She works night shift 30 miles away. Commuting to and from work by bicycle or public transportation is impossible. Taxi services here start at 10:00 am and end at 9:00 pm, and buses do t even run anywhere close to where she works along with the time tables to get her to or from work…
I have my own income and she has her own income. Because of her night schedule, she takes car of her own meals and I take care of my own meals. I do most of the household shopping with my bike and panniers. My income covers the rent, utilities, and half the phone bill, and all of my hobbies. Her income covers her gas, insurance, food (for herself), entertainment, and household supplies (that I go purchase by bike). She and I live two separate lives under one roof. Just like the OP, just because there is a car in the household doesn’t mean I get to see any of the perks or benefits of it. |
Just so I don't appear rude and unresponsive...
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Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike
(Post 22584003)
Does this mean that you two never ride together in the car to go anywhere as a couple?
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If you are a car lover, what has actually kept you car free for 30 years?
And if you love cars, why call yourself car free, shouldn't you be rather calling yourself car less? |
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