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seedsbelize 07-28-20 07:11 AM

I am of Pennsylvania Dutch descent, and my wife of Polish descent. Good food all around. We are both big fans of cabbage in all its forms, kimchi excluded.

MoAlpha 07-28-20 07:14 AM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 21610435)
Isn't it wonderful and terrible?

Honestly, it wouldn't be so alluring if I didn't feel such a very real difference in the saddle. But it's there. And it's addicting. :twitchy:

Yes, even when one's age makes it a pitiful joke.

Anyway, went out and did a few long LT intervals this a.m,, which had the predicted and desired effect on the eFTP.

Velo Vol 07-28-20 07:15 AM


Originally Posted by gnome (Post 21610682)
I haven't had sauerkraut in a while.

You're missing out.

Originally Posted by Pirkaus (Post 21610873)
My grandmother used to make sauerkraut in a large crock in her basement.
The memory of which has rendered the canned stuff inedible, some of the jarred stuff is marginally "ok".


Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 21610987)
My wifeís been making sauerkraut lately. And kimchi. Iím not into either one. She and an organic farmer friend are preparing an instructional slide show for some upcoming event.

It's been years since I had homebrew, if I ever had it at all. Sounds like I'm missing out.

Been thinking about probiotics lately.

WhyFi 07-28-20 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by seedsbelize (Post 21611067)
How does wet roads cause punctures?

It makes it more likely for debris to stick to the tires, giving them more of a chance to puncture on each rotation, and the wet somehow makes it easier to cut through the rubber, though I'm not sure on the physics of it.

WhyFi 07-28-20 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 21611078)
Yes, even one's age makes it a pitiful joke.

Anyway, went out and did a few long LT intervals this a.m,, which had the predicted and desired effect on the eFTP.

That's a nice little jump - kudos!

Velo Vol 07-28-20 07:31 AM

Big Bicycle is taking over UK!

'Fix your bike' vouchers launch, as cycling to be prescribed on NHS



A government scheme offering £50 bike repair vouchers will launch in England on Tuesday as part of plans to boost cycling and walking.

An initial 50,000 vouchers will be made available online later in the day on a first-come, first-served basis.

The prime minister also announced that access to bikes will be available on the NHS as part of the strategy.
#P&R

Mods please do not delete.

MoAlpha 07-28-20 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 21611098)
That's a nice little jump - kudos!

The bump isn't real, though. eFTP decays over time and I had no power data to update it since the winter. However, that number matches my indoor 20 min estimate, so I think there's some headroom for this season.

indyfabz 07-28-20 07:35 AM

Dropped off the car before 8, walked down the block to Whole Foods then walked home in maybe 15 minutes. I was dripping with sweat by the time I got home.

ViaBike 07-28-20 07:41 AM

One Cape Cod shark got loose and attacked a swimmer in Maine for the first time today... It's not just them drivers being bad...:bang:

WhyFi 07-28-20 07:42 AM


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 21611111)
The bump isn't real, though. eFTP decays over time and I had no power data to update it since the winter. However, that number matches my indoor 20 min estimate, so I think there's some headroom for this season.

Ah, so it was gradually sinking, the further away you got from measured values, and this just brought it back up in line with expectation?

FWIW, I feel like it's not terribly easy to get good FTP figures outdoors. Around here, at least. There's always someone or something breakin' my stride and then there's enough variability in incline that it takes a lot more fussing to stay on target. This is my excuse for assuming that any FTP figures derived outside are underestimating my potential. :p

Velo Vol 07-28-20 07:45 AM

Wonder what a government bicycle repair voucher covers? Seems it should be part of the COVID bailout packages here.

rjones28 07-28-20 07:47 AM


Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 21610976)
It was 78 degrees when I woke up an hour ago. Where the hell am I, Texas?

We have lots of extra water. Swollen creeks, washed out roads, etc...

big john 07-28-20 07:50 AM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 21611089)
It makes it more likely for debris to stick to the tires, giving them more of a chance to puncture on each rotation, and the wet somehow makes it easier to cut through the rubber, though I'm not sure on the physics of it.

It makes it easier for debris to get a "bite" on the tire. When I rode dirt bikes it was easier to get a flat on wet rocks than dry, at least that was the thinking.

big john 07-28-20 07:54 AM


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 21611060)
Sauerkraut is part of my childhood and a comfort food, in combination with German charcuterie. Kimchi, I can take or leave.

I like the hot German potato salad. My mother also made Dumph Kraut, sweeter than regular kraut.

abshipp 07-28-20 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 21611089)
It makes it more likely for debris to stick to the tires, giving them more of a chance to puncture on each rotation

https://www.renehersecycles.com/wp-c...9_wm080819.jpg

:innocent:

WhyFi 07-28-20 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by abshipp (Post 21611153)

Looks heavy.

abshipp 07-28-20 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 21611125)
FWIW, I feel like it's not terribly easy to get good FTP figures outdoors. Around here, at least. There's always someone or something breakin' my stride and then there's enough variability in incline that it takes a lot more fussing to stay on target. This is my excuse for assuming that any FTP figures derived outside are underestimating my potential. :p

I've recently discovered how difficult it is to ride intervals well. Surprising just how fast my heart rate drops with even the slightest decrease in incline. I tried some 20' Z3 intervals yesterday and with the longer length I also found myself getting distracted and not paying attention to what I was doing.

MoAlpha 07-28-20 08:06 AM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 21611125)
Ah, so it was gradually sinking, the further away you got from measured values, and this just brought it back up in line with expectation?

FWIW, I feel like it's not terribly easy to get good FTP figures outdoors. Around here, at least. There's always someone or something breakin' my stride and then there's enough variability in incline that it takes a lot more fussing to stay on target. This is my excuse for assuming that any FTP figures derived outside are underestimating my potential. :p

Yes, that's what it is.

I find outdoor efforts much easier than indoor. I think it's mainly the richer sensory feedback. Descents are obviously an issue, but I can avoid the big ones and bring up the mean power by pushing it on the uphills. I'm sure purists would be aghast, but it has real-world validity.

big john 07-28-20 08:08 AM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 21611156)
Looks heavy.

Too much drag, like having the brakes on. Non aero.

MoAlpha 07-28-20 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by big john (Post 21611145)
I like the hot German potato salad. My mother also made Dumph Kraut, sweeter than regular kraut.

:thumb: Well, MY mother prepared her sauerkraut with a little brown sugar and white wine with a sprinkling of caraway seeds. I think she learned that from someone in my father's family. When I was a kid I thought it was too sweet, but I like it now.

WhyFi 07-28-20 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by abshipp (Post 21611160)
I've recently discovered how difficult it is to ride intervals well. Surprising just how fast my heart rate drops with even the slightest decrease in incline. I tried some 20' Z3 intervals yesterday and with the longer length I also found myself getting distracted and not paying attention to what I was doing.

Yup. With power, that change is more immediately noticed and to keep the same power you'll often find yourself going far faster than you typically might. If I'm in that 90% region, a little bit of a decline will have me flirting with 30 mph pretty quickly.

Bah Humbug 07-28-20 08:11 AM

So I clicked the family text thread when I got back from my ride to discover that my uncle (who was in poor health to start with) is in the hospital with pneumonia in both lungs. Again, because it happened last year as well.

****

MoAlpha 07-28-20 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by abshipp (Post 21611153)

Oh yeah. Everyone used to have those, but I never saw any good evidence they worked and if you had them in contact with the tire, they whined annoyingly and wore out.

phrantic09 07-28-20 08:13 AM

I tried some intervals yesterday and found I suck at maintaining consistent power. It was also super windy, which made it twice as hard. What was most interesting is intervals.icu showed a drop in overall fitness after a somewhat hard-ish effort. So confused. My knee is killing me today, I need a fit but can't get one because of COVID. I'm 99.999999% certain it's cleat float and placement, but would like a pro to truly dial me in. Everything else feels great.

MoAlpha 07-28-20 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by Bah Humbug (Post 21611177)
So I clicked the family text thread when I got back from my ride to discover that my uncle (who was in poor health to start with) is in the hospital with pneumonia in both lungs. Again, because it happened last year as well.

****

Ohhh. Not good. Sorry and best wishes.

WhyFi 07-28-20 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 21611165)
Yes, that's what it is.

I find outdoor efforts much easier than indoor. I think it's mainly the richer sensory feedback. Descents are obviously an issue, but I can avoid the big ones and bring up the mean power by pushing it on the uphills. I'm sure purists would be aghast, but it has real-world validity.

Yeah, I think that it's easier to get in good efforts outside, and I think that my outdoor power is better than indoors, it's just that I have a hard time laying down a representative effort. I wish that I had some longer, gradual inclines in my area, or even short, steady pitches, but it's hard for me to find any place where I could plug away for more than 5 minutes without much thought or adjustment.

WhyFi 07-28-20 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by Bah Humbug (Post 21611177)
So I clicked the family text thread when I got back from my ride to discover that my uncle (who was in poor health to start with) is in the hospital with pneumonia in both lungs. Again, because it happened last year as well.

****

:(

genejockey 07-28-20 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by gnome (Post 21610682)
I haven't had sauerkraut in a while. Nor cabbage. I prefer Brussel Sprouts.

I'm a big fan of all the cruciferous veggies, but everybody loves broccoli!

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ea2739581d.jpg

MoAlpha 07-28-20 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by phrantic09 (Post 21611182)
I tried some intervals yesterday and found I suck at maintaining consistent power. It was also super windy, which made it twice as hard. What was most interesting is intervals.icu showed a drop in overall fitness after a somewhat hard-ish effort. So confused. My knee is killing me today, I need a fit but can't get one because of COVID. I'm 99.999999% certain it's cleat float and placement, but would like a pro to truly dial me in. Everything else feels great.

I started doing intervals in college x-c. We went to the track and did the distance at a pace we thought would get us through the set and the coach would occasionally tell us to speed it up or slow it down. I think it's almost impossible to use a smoothed, delayed, data stream, like power, for tight feedback. I just go and glance at the numbers occasionally as a check. I think you get pretty good at estimating the target effort and you put in a better performance if you're not constantly trying to adjust your pace.

abshipp 07-28-20 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 21611176)
Yup. With power, that change is more immediately noticed and to keep the same power you'll often find yourself going far faster than you typically might. If I'm in that 90% region, a little bit of a decline will have me flirting with 30 mph pretty quickly.

I learned that very thing as well, recently. Traditional road bike gearing was making a lot more sense to me, as JRA a 46/12 is plenty of gear, but I was using a lot more of the cassette than I thought I would on the shiny bike with a 52 up front.

Also, around here they like to spread a layer of gravel over the paved country roads, I guess so that as it breaks down it naturally fills in the depressions. Going way faster than I usually do on these corners is a bit frightening since the gravel likes to hang out there :twitchy:


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