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datlas 01-05-22 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 22362924)
A geezer invited me to do a structured workout with him tomorrow. I'm not sure I see the point, but what the hell.

Remember. ERG mode is the devil. Donít say I didnít warn you!

genejockey 01-05-22 03:07 PM

I skipped Sunday's ride, because I'd already ridden about 30+ miles each of the previous 4 days, and my legs were a little stiff. Monday, it was raining so I Zwifted. I felt "off". First, my legs were still sore, and second, they didn't seem to have much 'snap'. It felt like I was having to put out 50 W more effort for the same power. Also, it kind of felt like my HR wasn't as responsive as usual.

Before COVID, I'd have put it down to "One of those days when the legs just don't have it", but now I find myself wondering, "Did I have 'IT'?"

Eternal Hypervigilance is the price of pandemics.

bampilot06 01-05-22 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by phrantic09 (Post 22362828)
I wonít argue- itís horrible up here right now. Iím not worried itís going to kill me. I am, however, worried that itís going to cause my kids to miss school for 5+ days.

I do generally feel that masking causes minimal discomfort and donít see what the big deal is with wearing them.


putting a mask on to enter a store and having to wear it for a minimal amount of time doesnít bother me. Wearing a mask non stop for 6 plus hours I get a nasty head ache.

bampilot06 01-05-22 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22362951)
Remember. ERG mode is the devil. Donít say I didnít warn you!


I like it, but Iíve only really dabbled with it in my zone 2 workouts.

MoAlpha 01-05-22 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22362951)
Remember. ERG mode is the devil. Donít say I didnít warn you!

I do workouts in erg mode at least once a week.

phrantic09 01-05-22 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by bampilot06 (Post 22362960)
I like it, but Iíve only really dabbled with it in my zone 2 workouts.

Its brutal at or above FTP

datlas 01-05-22 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 22362961)
I do workouts in erg mode at least once a week.

You have more HTFU than me. Kudos!

genejockey 01-05-22 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by phrantic09 (Post 22362965)
Its brutal at or above FTP

I find it's about the only way for me to stay in the power zone I'm supposed to be in. I like it because I don't have to think. All I have to do is push the pedals, and on some of the workouts that's all I can do by the end of the last set.

It works okay for hard efforts of 30 seconds or longer, but I understand it's a real problem for 10-20 second all out efforts - response is too slow. I generally find it takes 3 seconds to change from one power level to the next. I tried to do a Tabata workout without Erg mode and I kept over- and undershooting the power. Drove me nuts. If it would allow you to set it up so Erg mode turns off for the sprint but back on for the spin in between that might work.

Velo Vol 01-05-22 03:32 PM

Already closed schools. LOL


datlas 01-05-22 03:48 PM

We are expecting about 2 inches tomorrow night. Yawn.

MoAlpha 01-05-22 03:49 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22362980)
You have more HTFU than me. Kudos!

Nah.


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22362992)
I find it's about the only way for me to stay in the power zone I'm supposed to be in.

This. If free riding feels better it's because you're not really doing the workout as specified.


Originally Posted by phrantic09 (Post 22362965)
Its brutal at or above FTP

Yes.

phrantic09 01-05-22 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 22362961)
I do workouts in erg mode at least once a week.

all of mine are

indyfabz 01-05-22 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22363018)
We are expecting about 2 inches tomorrow night. Yawn.

Donít sell yourself short.

indyfabz 01-05-22 04:28 PM

A total of 26 people living in a duplex owned by the Philadelphia Housing Authority. Inspection last spring found the smoke detectors working. Early word is that the ones in the upper unit were not when the fire started. Fourteen dead so far. Seven are children. Two other people hospitalized. Some lawyers are probably licking their chops right now.


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...4dbc4ea41.jpeg

genejockey 01-05-22 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 22363021)
Nah.



This. If free riding feels better it's because you're not really doing the workout as specified.



Yes.

Absence of pain implies absence of gain, you might say.

MoAlpha 01-05-22 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22363085)
Absence of pain implies absence of gain, you might say.

Öif the workout is right.

MoAlpha 01-05-22 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by indyfabz (Post 22363063)
A total of 26 people living in a duplex owned by the Philadelphia Housing Authority. Inspection last spring found the smoke detectors working. Early word is that the ones in the upper unit were not when the fire started. Fourteen dead so far. Seven are children. Two other people hospitalized. Some lawyers are probably licking their chops right now.


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...4dbc4ea41.jpeg

Horrible.

LesterOfPuppets 01-05-22 05:48 PM

Programming note: KEXP's 50th birthday is today, and they're playing songs from 1972!!!

https://kexp.org/listen/

Charles Mingus spinning right now

LesterOfPuppets 01-05-22 06:02 PM

Aww, I guess just that one show was all '72 action

Velo Vol 01-05-22 06:33 PM

Olde headline, but funny.


ls01 01-05-22 06:58 PM


Originally Posted by phrantic09 (Post 22362659)
Iím at a loss. I mean, if you fall off the back you have to work hard but my experience is once you catch up youíre good as long as youíre in the right w/kg range.

Same here. That's why it was so frustrating. When I said anything it was just dismissed out if hand as if "I just don't get it".
I get to give it another shot tomorrow, so far there's 2 of us. Well see how it goes.

Velo Vol 01-05-22 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets (Post 22363133)
Programming note: KEXP's 50th birthday is today, and they're playing songs from 1972!!!

DougRNS is going to get hot and bothered tomorrow when he sees this.

ls01 01-05-22 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22362696)
That's weird. I mean, I've done hour-long races where we all stay together and stay within a fairly narrow power band. I've noticed sometimes I have a significantly lower W/kg than the person I'm drafting - like they're doing over 2 W/kg while I'm cruising at 1.7 or 1.8.

Might it have to do with the terrain? And are all your parameters in your profile correct? One thing I noticed when I accidentally reset my height to 3 feet was that I had no problem at 2 W/kg keeping up with other riders putting out more like 4 W/kg, so the aero effect of height should not be overlooked.

yes, all correct. Plus I did a calibration just before the ride. The thing that bothers me most is the first half of the ride was completely normal. Then like I said, as if a switch was thrown I was off the back...boom! Unless I used the rubber band feature and just pedaled slowly. If I tried to catch up my effort just became overbearing.so I sat 4 seconds back spinning about 100 watts. Until about 5 minutes to go when suddenly I accelerated without any effort and caught the group and actually passed them while putting out 0 effort.
It has something to do with that stupid rubber band I'm sure of it.

gnome 01-05-22 07:10 PM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 22362950)
Seems dubious anytime of year.

try it. you might like it.

ls01 01-05-22 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by mvnsnd (Post 22362853)
What hardware is this on? Have you tried installing the latest Zwift client? I occasionally got a situation where I pressed for a different camera view and then got limited in speed no matter the power applied. But I think a later game update fixed that.

I'm running it on Apple TV now but I've had issues in the past on my laptop too. It's a brand new install only about 3 or 4 weeks old. When I ride alone it's fine no problems at all. I did 30 minutes on my own directly after yesterday's ride and it was 100% fine. It only does this stuff with the group ride thing happening. I just don't know why it singles me out.


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