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Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver
(Post 12074538)
It seems like a lot of people have never seen a Twenty here as many people have been asking about my little bike and a few have been amazed to discover it is also 37 years old... it really could not have come to me in better shape and I then upgraded the wheels and brakes.
Did a 50 mile ride (major bicycle rally in Erie) on the Sports one Sunday in a suit, bow tie, bowler hat, while smoking a pipe over most of the route. |
are the Top Tube dimensions of a DL-1 and a Spot different, I know the geometry iis a bit more lax on the DL-1 and the tires are 28". What I'm really asking is a 23" DL-1 bigger than a 23" Sport?
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Originally Posted by Velognome
(Post 12079196)
are the Top Tube dimensions of a DL-1 and a Spot different, I know the geometry iis a bit more lax on the DL-1 and the tires are 28". What I'm really asking is a 23" DL-1 bigger than a 23" Sport?
The phantom top tube on the 22" DL-1L is 21". I'd guess it's about the same ratio as a Sports. |
I love this thread! I'm new to English 3-speeds, but would love to find one for myself. I've been trolling Craigslist and Ebay a bit, but I suspect my size will be difficult to come by. I generally ride a 61-63cm frame. The largest Raleigh 3-speed I've seen is a 53 or 54. Was there a model that was known to come in larger sizes that might be easier to find? Sports, Sprite, DL1, Tourist, etc? Although I am partial to fully enclosed chaincase bikes from some of the 1950's models.
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Originally Posted by mixtemaniac
(Post 12080470)
I love this thread! I'm new to English 3-speeds, but would love to find one for myself. I've been trolling Craigslist and Ebay a bit, but I suspect my size will be difficult to come by. I generally ride a 61-63cm frame. The largest Raleigh 3-speed I've seen is a 53 or 54. Was there a model that was known to come in larger sizes that might be easier to find? Sports, Sprite, DL1, Tourist, etc? Although I am partial to fully enclosed chaincase bikes from some of the 1950's models.
And no, you're not mistaken - I really believe that 21-1/2" frames were the majority of production for a roadster, no matter what the English brand. |
I've never heard of a 25-1/2" Sports frame.
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Originally Posted by mixtemaniac
(Post 12080470)
I love this thread! I'm new to English 3-speeds, but would love to find one for myself. I've been trolling Craigslist and Ebay a bit, but I suspect my size will be difficult to come by. I generally ride a 61-63cm frame. The largest Raleigh 3-speed I've seen is a 53 or 54. Was there a model that was known to come in larger sizes that might be easier to find? Sports, Sprite, DL1, Tourist, etc? Although I am partial to fully enclosed chaincase bikes from some of the 1950's models.
While my classic sensibilities prefer looking at the Sports, I prefer the Sprite on the road: http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5005/...b7f05b0426.jpg |
Originally Posted by FishBiscuit
(Post 12078131)
... makes for one of my favorite photos! What rims did you put on your Twenty? That's the next upgrade for mine.
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Originally Posted by noglider
(Post 12081450)
I've never heard of a 25-1/2" Sports frame.
Aaron :) |
My main winter project is finished, the 1968 Ranger (built by Philips) 3-speed roadster. When I bought it (cost was $15.00) the frame and tinware was filthy, the wheel rims were oil covered and disgusting, and any other chrome was rust covered. The former owner had done a few odd things to it. The shift lever was in the place normally occupied by the left brake, and both brake levers were on the right hand side. As the bike was in working condition, I tried a test ride with the original setup, and whatever benefits he got from the setup completely escaped me. Also, in place of a bunch of missing cable clips, he duct taped the cable casings in place. Over the years the tape hardened and I ended up using rubbing compound to remove the glue residue from the paint. All chrome reclamation is courtesy of a oxalic acid bath.
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q...es/Ranger1.jpg http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q...es/Ranger2.jpg Virtually all the parts are the original. I had to replace the pedals (bearings were shot) with the original brand, but probably a couple of years newer as the original pedals didn't have built-in reflectors. Also, the current hand grips are period correct, but not identical in style to the original. The original grips were totally round and symmetrical. Cables and casings were replaced (originals were very discolored, and the original shift casing was white - may be replaced in the near future). I still need a clear plastic facing for the three speed shifter. http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q...es/Ranger5.jpg I was especially overjoyed that my cleaning of the frame did not damage the decals. The one on the down tube was already trashed thanks to the duct tape. http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q...es/Ranger4.jpg Originally, I restored this with the intent of taking it to Westminster for resale, although I'm happy enough with it that I may just keep it. It has a very short seatpost (the seat is already set at the absolute limit of extension that can still be clamped down) and is about 1/2" short for me to ride. That should be rectified on my next trip to Re-Cycles. While I can barely fit a 21-1/2" frame, I'm always happier on a 23-1/2". Which is my next search. http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q...es/Ranger3.jpg Now that it's done, and my abilities to handle a fragile restoration have been well practiced, I've started on the Roger Riviere. That one's going to take some serious time, as it's just as dirty, but in worse condition under the dirt. |
Excellent work. Seriohath! What's the roger rivière? Is there a thread for it?
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Originally Posted by noglider
(Post 12083093)
Excellent work. Seriohath! What's the roger rivière? Is there a thread for it?
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^ beautiful red Ranger! Impressive bike rescue job.
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Thanks for sharing your beautiful photos of the Ranger. I never knew this bike existed before today!
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Originally Posted by sykerocker
(Post 12082953)
My main winter project is finished, the 1968 Ranger (built by Philips) 3-speed roadster.
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q...es/Ranger1.jpg |
Beautiful Ranger sykerocker, that cowboy theme is really cool! It just needs a rear rack with a scabbard for your Red Ryder carbine.
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Love the Ranger! Gorgeous!
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^^^^^ Sheer poetry as a still life.
Of course, the other side of me immediately thought, "It's not locked. Bet it doesn't last there more than five minutes." |
Originally Posted by Chris_in_Miami
(Post 12083790)
Beautiful Ranger sykerocker, that cowboy theme is really cool! It just needs a rear rack with a scabbard for your Red Ryder carbine.
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I thought some of you would like to see my 1965 Sprite. I'm not exactly sure of the year, but I believe it's close. This bike was not originally a 3 speed. I changed it over from a 5 speed derailleur. Therefore, the hub is no help in dating it. Also, I've not been able to find the serial number in any of the lists on the internet.
Typical of Craigs List finds, it was sort of a mess when I found it. I dissassembled everything, cleaned, greased and reassembled. The seat was missing, so I put one of my favorites on it. It measures 22" from BB to top tube. Has a 32" standover. Also, I changed the rear cog out to a 22t. Sure makes a difference. http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5009/...dc3259a2_z.jpg IMG_0024 by LuckyChow, on Flickr http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5124/...f9b61bb6_z.jpg IMG_0038 by LuckyChow, on Flickr http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5125/...db82d437_z.jpg IMG_0026 by LuckyChow, on Flickr http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5290/...f01d3b9a_z.jpg IMG_0029 by LuckyChow, on Flickr http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5005/...43e3f7fd_z.jpg IMG_0031 by LuckyChow, on Flickr http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5204/...a408e66d_z.jpg IMG_0036 by LuckyChow, on Flickr http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5001/...cfe3e976_z.jpg IMG_0034 by LuckyChow, on Flickr http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5202/...3cc284fa_z.jpg IMG_0028 by LuckyChow, on Flickr http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5008/...a48b8ecc_z.jpg IMG_0060 by LuckyChow, on Flickr http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5048/...3725f687_z.jpg IMG_0071 by LuckyChow, on Flickr This was my first. Learned a lot on this bike. Ready to start soon on my DL-1 Tourist. Should be fun! |
Originally Posted by FishBiscuit
(Post 12078098)
I put Schwalbe tubes (model AV17) and Schwalbe Delta Cruiser tires on my DL-1s, and I couldn't be happier. I ordered my tubes and tires from Calhoun Cycle, but I know they're around. Harris Cyclery also offers them. The tires are offered both with and without a reflective stripe (I think you can get them in 28 x 1.5 in black too).
This photo was taken before I mounted the Schwalbe tubes: http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5206/...ab437b4eae.jpg Oh, and I'd recommend changing the tubes and tires at the same time, just for the fact that removing and replacing the wheels on this bike is a pain in the butt due, to having to readjust the brake stirrups, brake pads, fenders, chain tensioners, and 3-Speed indicator chain every time you do. |
Is the Brooks original? If so there should be a brand in the underside of the saddle with a year and a month. They started doing that after 1960 I think.
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Are all the bolts on the Sports model Whitworth? I was having a problem mounting a 3 speed shift mechanism to the handlebar. It is the one with the plastic face and a specially designed nut. As is usual with this design the plastic face of the shifter has cracks. I think because the bolt is really too short, a design flaw by S-A. I went to the hardware store to get a longer bolt. Turns out the bolt is not English or metric. I assume it is Whitworth. The nearest to it was 10-32. I bought a few and tapped out the stock nut.
I have a rear rack that I would like to put on this bike. The bolts that hold the fender stays thread into the chain stays and have lock nuts on them. They will not be long enough to add the rack. Are these also Whitworth? I know that the Sports model did not come with a rack like the Superbe. So did the Superbe have longer bolts to accomodate the rack? |
No, the Brooks is a recent purchase (last year).
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