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Originally Posted by sekaijin
(Post 11856091)
Yes, I saw those and wondered if they would fit.
So, IIRC my options are: 1. stick with original brake pads and shoes 2. get new pads and shoes - i.e. Kool Stop Continentals and find brake shoes to match 3. get Kool Stop campy replacement pads which will "sort of work" with original shoes #3 makes me uneasy and #2 would send me on a hunt for vintage brake shoes, so I am leaning toward #1 at this point. Am I missing something? What would you do? =========== BTW here is the bike - a 1969 Hercules. Resto in progress, just needs its brake handles, pads, shifter and cables. http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u...inprogress.jpg #2. I would get the Salmon Continentals if you plan on riding the bike. You don't need shoes with the Continentals. They look a bit funny, but they're worth it. |
I go with #2 all the time. If I am going to show the bike I will put the original pads and holders back on. But I ride much more than I show so Continentals it is.
Aaron :) |
OK, it's settled - with four experts in agreement, Kool Stop Continentals it is! Thank you Sixty Fiver, Aaron, Tom and gna! (and gna thank you for clarifying they don't require brake shoes)
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FWIW, I have used the Kool Stop replacement pads in old Weinmann center pull hardware. It worked pretty well but took a bit of work. I like the Continentals best.
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Eagle 2's are even a bit nicer.
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Originally Posted by sekaijin
(Post 11859398)
OK, it's settled - with four experts in agreement, Kool Stop Continentals it is! Thank you Sixty Fiver, Aaron, Tom and gna! (and gna thank you for clarifying they don't require brake shoes)
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=180428 I hope someone has a better closeup picture. They greatly improve stopping power on steel rims, especially when wet, but you still need to use caution, or you'll skid right through a stop sign. |
Next question: giving the bike a new shifter cable
Well my brake pads question was such a layup I figure I'll try another question ...
I'm about ready to cable up the 3-speed shifter to the SA hub. The original cable has that distinctive crimped cable-end to secure it in the shifter. What do you do when you want to give your shifter a new cable - do you need to add a special crimp on the end like the originals had? |
You would need a universal cable with a special adapter as shown in the picture below. You can find these on e-Bay and most good LBS.
http://i.ebayimg.com/19/!B1LcUbwBGk~...gVEO9Q~~_3.JPG How about those Badgers?? |
Originally Posted by noglider
(Post 11862299)
Eagle 2's are even a bit nicer.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5281/...d36e9d88_z.jpg |
Originally Posted by gbalke
(Post 11873699)
You would need a universal cable with a special adapter as shown in the picture below. You can find these on e-Bay and most good LBS.
http://i.ebayimg.com/19/!B1LcUbwBGk~...gVEO9Q~~_3.JPG How about those Badgers?? Go Badgers - smelling the roses ... |
If one has a 23" Raleigh Sports frame only, and a 21" complete Raleigh Sports, can the parts be moved to the larger frame? Both are from approximately the same time period. Right now the question is hypothetical.
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Yes, but the cables might not be long enough. Other than that, yes, everything is the same.
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Originally Posted by mkeller234
(Post 11873756)
I am not sure what Kool Stop model these ones are, but they are pretty good. I like the hardware and the adjustability it allows. I can lock up the wheels and skid at will. One night on my way to work I nearly went over the bars at the bottom of my steep driveway because I wasn't paying attention.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5281/...d36e9d88_z.jpg Have found that with some brakes the deeper Eagle pad works better and these can also be fitted with the same hardware to allow for easy alignment and toe in. I use these on my '57 Peugeot as they work far better than the Thinline pads I had tried, they stop better, and don't squeal like a cat in heat. |
Originally Posted by sekaijin
(Post 11873589)
Well my brake pads question was such a layup I figure I'll try another question ...
I'm about ready to cable up the 3-speed shifter to the SA hub. The original cable has that distinctive crimped cable-end to secure it in the shifter. What do you do when you want to give your shifter a new cable - do you need to add a special crimp on the end like the originals had? http://www.ravingbikefiend.com/bikep...rtsbrifter.JPG |
Originally Posted by Schwinnsta
(Post 11889943)
If one has a 23" Raleigh Sports frame only, and a 21" complete Raleigh Sports, can the parts be moved to the larger frame? Both are from approximately the same time period. Right now the question is hypothetical.
Aaron :) |
Would chain work too? Or would that too need to be changed for a longer one? Are chain links from other chains compatible?
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Originally Posted by Schwinnsta
(Post 11905763)
Would chain work too? Or would that too need to be changed for a longer one? Are chain links from other chains compatible?
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The chain should work, if it's not rusted or worn, but ColonelJLloyd (boy, that's hard to type!) makes a good point. You can get a chain for ten bux.
The difference between a 21" Sports and a 23" Sports is that the head and seat tubes are longer. The top tube and downtubes might also be longer, but I don't know. Those are the only differences. |
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http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=182530Hi Guys. Been off the forum for a long while and am in the midst of a divorce of sorts. What makes me happy? Three-speeds! I just picked up my fourth Sports this weekend, and today read through all of this thread. Ah, it makes me feel good. I love the bikes and loved Roadmasters story and bike. I'm from PA too, many moons ago! Anyway, I want to be back in the fold, here's a pick of my favorite and the one that got me started. I'll post the others if anyone wants to see pics of old bikes...
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Originally Posted by roseskunk
(Post 11948767)
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=182530Hi Guys. Been off the forum for a long while and am in the midst of a divorce of sorts. What makes me happy? Three-speeds! I just picked up my fourth Sports this weekend, and today read through all of this thread. Ah, it makes me feel good. I love the bikes and loved Roadmasters story and bike. I'm from PA too, many moons ago! Anyway, I want to be back in the fold, here's a pick of my favorite and the one that got me started. I'll post the others if anyone wants to see pics of old bikes...
Aaron :) |
Is there a source for tall stems for Raleigh's, like the one on roseskunk's Sports?
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Yep, I'm shamelessly posting this everywhere.
Decals should go on tonight but a break in the rain made this a good photo op after getting it all together. 1966 Sports http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...8&d=1292630153 http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...9&d=1292630766 |
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http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=182564http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=182565 Here's another of my Sports. Don't have a date for this one, and these pics are from just after I bought it. 75 bucks in Fort Worth. It's got a B135 on it now and front and rear Wald baskets. I swapped out the rims for CR18s too. Yeah, the B135 is way overkill, but I just had to own one. (Well, actually, I own two, the second one is on my DL-1 Tourist.) she's a good bike but doesn't get ridden as much as my green one. The hub slips a bit and I'm a little nervous about trying to fix it. I clean them with WD-40 then refill them with oil and that seems to do the trick most of the time. Maybe I need to take a look at it again...
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http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=182567http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=182568http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=182569http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=182570 Here are a few more of my favorite Sports. There was literally only one scratch on it when I got it, and it's a bit dirty now, but still very nice. I think the only thing I've done is swap out the seat for a Brooks, though the original one that came with it was in terrific shape as well. This bike still has the original steel rims. I don't ride it in the rain, so it's no problem other than the weight which doesn't really bother me. Oh, I've got a Carradice bag for her too.
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http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=182572http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=182573http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=182574 Here's my DL-1. It's got a B135 on it now, unfortunately the old saddle finally just completely ripped. I bought the light from ebay, the bike was another 75 dollar wonder from Fort Worth. Apparently it was for sale for quite a while, and I nearly passed on it too, but I'm sure glad that I didn't. It doesn't get ridden much a it's a big heavy bike, and it doesn't fit me- or I don't fit it very well. I've got the bars as high as they'll go but it just isn't enough. Still, it's a beauty, and no, I wouldn't get rid of it!
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http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=182575http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=182576http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=182577 Here are a few more of her before she got the new saddle. I'll have to dust her off and shoot some new pics. Actually, all of them need new pics. I don't have any of the brown or new red LTD. I've also got a Twenty that has been at the not so-LBS for quite a while. There's also a Supercourse, an International, a Competition and maybe a few other Raleighs. But this is a three-speed thread, I'll stop now!
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Originally Posted by Velognome
(Post 11948789)
Is there a source for tall stems for Raleigh's, like the one on roseskunk's Sports?
Aaron :) |
Originally Posted by noglider
(Post 11905930)
The chain should work, if it's not rusted or worn, but ColonelJLloyd (boy, that's hard to type!) makes a good point. You can get a chain for ten bux.
The difference between a 21" Sports and a 23" Sports is that the head and seat tubes are longer. The top tube and downtubes might also be longer, but I don't know. Those are the only differences. |
Originally Posted by ahson
(Post 11953372)
A noob question, do I need a specific kind of chain on these 3 speed machines?
Shimano 3 speeds use 3/32 while British bikes and many older bikes use the wider 1/8. |
Any chain with 1/8" width will do. I've had good luck with all brands. Try this one.
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