Girl credits helmet for saving her life after getting run over by bus
I don't leave the driveway without a helmet. I know that if I fall off the bike, the helmet might keep me from a knot on the head, or maybe worse. But this is well over the line, even for me. This girl fell off her bike and her helmet was run over by a bus, and she says the helmet kept her from getting run over by the bus, and the media eats it up. This is the worse sort of pro-helmet propaganda.
http://www.wesh.com/video/26102237/detail.html |
I dunno. If the tire rolled over her helmeted head and as the helmet crushed it allowed her head to be spit out from under the wheel like pinched watermellon seed, it could have saved her life. It would be kind of a freak accident though.
I've had enough non-freak accidents on bicycles and motorcycles where I smacked my head hard enough to significantly damage helmets, a few in rather casual circumstances where you'd least expect it, that I always put one on. I need no propaganda other than my own to convince me to wear one. I'm against laws requiring it, though. |
Just more proof that helmets are lifesavers and you people claiming otherwise is just irresponsible. Wear your helmets, and if not then at least don't discourage others from enjoying the benefits of this critical piece of life saving equipment.
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if you believe that the helmet saved her, Bell has some more helmets they want to sell you :D
(and they don't care how many more have to die, as long as they keep selling 'em) |
Originally Posted by closetbiker
(Post 11921353)
if you believe that the helmet saved her, Bell has some more helmets they want to sell you :D
I can't think of a more profit-worthy company than bell, they're doing god's work and saving lives, sounds like you're jealous of their commercial success while remaining ethically above reproach |
Originally Posted by Cyclaholic
(Post 11921357)
it's not a question of whether you believe or not... bell [is] doing god's work
There is no reasonable proof the helmet saved her life, in fact to believe so is unreasonable for a number of reasons, not the least of which is that cycle helmets aren't made to be run over by busses, such collisions lead to other injuries that cause death, and that there are many others who have died of head inujries while wearing helmets after being hit by busses, and many others who haven't while being helmetless. If someone can swallow what is being fed to them in this presentation, they are gullible enough to engage their faith in something that may lead them into greater danger. Of course, if someone has faith, reason or logic need not apply. If someone dies while wearing a helmet he/she is just being called home to the greater purpose. |
Originally Posted by closetbiker
(Post 11921372)
Sure sounds like it is a question of faith for you. I imagine you must worship at the alter of Bell.
There is no reasonable proof the helmet saved her life, in fact to believe so is unreasonable for a number of reasons, not the least of which is that cycle helmets aren't made to be run over by busses, such collisions lead to other injuries that cause death, and that there are many others who have died of head inujries while wearing helmets after being hit by busses, and many others who haven't while being helmetless. If someone can swallow what is being fed to them in this presentation, they are gullible enough to engage their faith in something that may lead them into greater danger. A helmet is safety equipment, just like a parachute. Saying bike helmets don't save lives is like saying parachutes don't save lives, would you opt out of wearing a parachute if you had to jump out of a plane? didn't think so... see? even YOU admit the fact that helmets save lives. ...Bell is doing god's work, if you hate helmets you hate god, why do you hate god? |
How many cyclists have died because they were wearing a helmet?
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Originally Posted by MrCjolsen
(Post 11921468)
How many cyclists have died because they were wearing a helmet?
The point is that Cycling Is Not Dangerous. Really. It's not. |
Originally Posted by Cyclaholic
(Post 11921437)
You tried to prove the helmet didn't save her life and failed, the fact that she's still alive is proof that it did, not faith but fact.
A helmet is safety equipment, just like a parachute. Saying bike helmets don't save lives is like saying parachutes don't save lives, would you opt out of wearing a parachute if you had to jump out of a plane? didn't think so... see? even YOU admit the fact that helmets save lives. ...Bell is doing god's work, if you hate helmets you hate god, why do you hate god? |
Originally Posted by Cyclaholic
(Post 11921437)
... why do you hate god?
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Originally Posted by Cyclaholic
(Post 11921437)
why do you hate god?
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Originally Posted by Cyclaholic
(Post 11921437)
You tried to prove the helmet didn't save her life and failed, the fact that she's still alive is proof that it did, not faith but fact.
A helmet is safety equipment, just like a parachute. Saying bike helmets don't save lives is like saying parachutes don't save lives, would you opt out of wearing a parachute if you had to jump out of a plane? didn't think so... see? even YOU admit the fact that helmets save lives. ...Bell is doing god's work, if you hate helmets you hate god, why do you hate god? And I smell a troll. |
Originally Posted by Forknroad
(Post 11921790)
... I smell a troll.
Really. Believing the helmet saved her life, because someone said so... |
Originally Posted by Cyclaholic
(Post 11921437)
You tried to prove the helmet didn't save her life and failed, the fact that she's still alive is proof that it did, not faith but fact.
A helmet is safety equipment, just like a parachute. Saying bike helmets don't save lives is like saying parachutes don't save lives, would you opt out of wearing a parachute if you had to jump out of a plane? didn't think so... see? even YOU admit the fact that helmets save lives. ...Bell is doing god's work, if you hate helmets you hate god, why do you hate god? "Contrary to popular belief, there is no good evidence that compulsory helmet laws have improved the safety of cycling. Indeed, the contrary is indicated. For Victoria, a statistical analysis by Robinson suggested that for the same cycle use as before the law there would now be no fewer head injuries and more total injuries to children. In the Australian Capital Territory, admissions of cyclists to public hospitals hardly changed." CYCLING IS NOT DANGEROUS. It's the nut jobs behind the wheels of a cars, buses, and trucks that are dangerous. |
I suppose it's possible (if unlikely) that the helmet saved her life. Perhaps the bus tire pushed the helmet an inch or two before crushing it, keeping her head out of its path. Or something.
Also, the video isn't showing up for me. |
Originally Posted by degnaw
(Post 11922039)
I suppose it's possible (if unlikely) that the helmet saved her life. Perhaps the bus tire pushed the helmet an inch or two before crushing it, keeping her head out of its path. Or something...
at any rate, people hear this type of thing and think, cycling's dangerous, wear a helmet. They don't think, ride or drive safe, or that these types of incidences are rare and easily avoided. |
Originally Posted by ctyler
(Post 11921994)
..I can understand your comments...
Originally Posted by Cyclaholic
(Post 11921437)
...Bell is doing god's work, if you hate helmets you hate god, why do you hate god?
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Originally Posted by skye
(Post 11921508)
Not as many as motorists have died not wearing a helmet.
The point is that Cycling Is Not Dangerous. Really. It's not. BTW, in my garage I have a helmet with a big dent in it. Had I not been wearing the helmet when I dented it, that dent would have been in my head and I do not see any possible way I could have survived. |
Can anyone not tell when someone is jesting?
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Originally Posted by MrCjolsen
(Post 11922132)
No, but a helmet makes it safer. I'm a very good swimmer who had done several mile swims in the SF bay, some even without a wetsuit. But when I go kayaking, I wear a life preserver. Would I drown if I fell out of the boat or it sank? No. Could I swim to shore? Sure. I have never needed a life preserver. But there's that one in 10000 chance that one time I don't wear one could be the time that I actually do need it.
BTW, in my garage I have a helmet with a big dent in it. Had I not been wearing the helmet when I dented it, that dent would have been in my head and I do not see any possible way I could have survived. |
Originally Posted by mikeybikes
(Post 11922158)
Can anyone not tell when someone is jesting?
Originally Posted by mikeybikes
(Post 11922164)
Do you wear a helmet while walking for that one in 10000 chance that you will trip and fall and hit your head against the sidewalk?
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Originally Posted by closetbiker
(Post 11922100)
if that were the case, the head would have cleared the tire had not a helmet been worn. Perhaps the presence of the helmet was the cause of the crushing...
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the difference is I used the word, perhaps.
Pure speculation, and as good as all other speculations |
Originally Posted by closetbiker
(Post 11922331)
the difference is I used the word, perhaps.
Pure speculation, and as good as all other speculations |
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