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raleighroadster 12-06-18 06:32 PM

Bought a 1974 yellow raleigh sports for $30 today,decent shape!
 

raleighroadster 12-06-18 06:33 PM

Paint is decent, most places
 

raleighroadster 12-06-18 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by BigChief (Post 20688395)
Good! You found our 3 speed hangout. You can still get the traditional English Fibrax brake pads. I used them on my Rudge instead of my usual salmon Kool Stops because I wanted to keep the look as original as possible on that bike.

Thanks. Fibrax pads arriving by mail in a few days.

raleighroadster 12-06-18 06:44 PM

If anyone wants a copy of the Raleigh manual, or if a sticky is to be placed on site, I can take complete photos and post. Pretty rare I guess.

raleighroadster 12-06-18 07:11 PM

This seems a bit high. $2500 . Wonder what best offer is?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1940s-Raleigh-Tourist-DL-1-Roadster/254006645076?hash=item3b23f9d154:g:FQQAAOSw5VtZxpF4:rk:2:pf:https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...99c11c1c4c.jpg

$2500? Or best offer?

BigChief 12-06-18 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by raleighroadster (Post 20694279)

It is from the 1940s, not a DL-1, repainted, not original grips, Mid 1950s cables, Very nice bike, silly asking price.

gster 12-06-18 08:45 PM


Originally Posted by arty dave (Post 20693928)

Not OT - Vintage bicycle riders heaven...seven brooks saddles hanging on the wall :)[/QUOTE]
Thanks.
All leather, but not all Brooks....

gster 12-07-18 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by BigChief (Post 20694341)
It is from the 1940s, not a DL-1, repainted, not original grips, Mid 1950s cables, Very nice bike, silly asking price.

Yeah.. ridiculous!

wahoonc 12-07-18 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by raleighroadster (Post 20694279)

I know mine would only be about 10% of that. If it were all original maybe 30%.

Aaron :)

BigChief 12-07-18 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by gster (Post 20695236)
Yeah.. ridiculous!

That '50 Raleigh listing is gone now, but this Humber/Raleigh just appeared. Funny though how the seat tube transfer is so clean, but there's no trace of any others on the rather clean looking paint. Hmmm. At first I suspected the fork was replaced, but a quick scan through the catalogs show there were Humber models of that period that used the standard forks with that same thin cap instead of the duplex fork. Seems like a nice bike, but 21".
https://nh.craigslist.org/bik/d/1950...747232601.html

gster 12-07-18 07:59 PM


Originally Posted by BigChief (Post 20695726)
That '50 Raleigh listing is gone now, but this Humber/Raleigh just appeared. Funny though how the seat tube transfer is so clean, but there's no trace of any others on the rather clean looking paint. Hmmm. At first I suspected the fork was replaced, but a quick scan through the catalogs show there were Humber models of that period that used the standard forks with that same thin cap instead of the duplex fork. Seems like a nice bike, but 21".
https://nh.craigslist.org/bik/d/1950...747232601.html

That seems more reasonable.
We all have to realize that these 50+ year old bikes have (mostly) passed through several hands before we get them.
That being said, we are actually "custodians" of these bicycles as they will, most likely, outlast us....

SarahCH 12-08-18 04:51 PM

Hello Everyone! I'm so glad I've found this forum and thread because I've been loving all of the beautiful pictures of the bikes you've all been showing off. When I get up to the post limit to be able to post pictures I would love to show off my Raleigh 20 :-) it's so nice to find people that also love vintage bikes. Apart from my family (we all love bikes) most people I know like to comment things like why are you riding that rusty junk, or why don't you ride your nice new bikes :-( I might go out for a fun ride on my rusty junk today actually

gster 12-08-18 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by SarahCH (Post 20696656)
Hello Everyone! I'm so glad I've found this forum and thread because I've been loving all of the beautiful pictures of the bikes you've all been showing off. When I get up to the post limit to be able to post pictures I would love to show off my Raleigh 20 :-) it's so nice to find people that also love vintage bikes. Apart from my family (we all love bikes) most people I know like to comment things like why are you riding that rusty junk, or why don't you ride your nice new bikes :-( I might go out for a fun ride on my rusty junk today actually

Glad to have you here.
Lots of good advice and info.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...406a8ee8d7.jpg

BigChief 12-08-18 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by SarahCH (Post 20696656)
Hello Everyone! I'm so glad I've found this forum and thread because I've been loving all of the beautiful pictures of the bikes you've all been showing off. When I get up to the post limit to be able to post pictures I would love to show off my Raleigh 20 :-) it's so nice to find people that also love vintage bikes. Apart from my family (we all love bikes) most people I know like to comment things like why are you riding that rusty junk, or why don't you ride your nice new bikes :-( I might go out for a fun ride on my rusty junk today actually

Welcome! Glad you found us too. You will find that 20s are popular here. This is a great thread, I've learned alot. Good folks too. Go ahead and do some nonsense posts to reach the picture posting threshold, we don't mind. We all enjoy seeing bikes and bike projects.It's a fun hobby.

SirMike1983 12-08-18 08:21 PM

The 1930s Phillips is back on the road. The project is not yet finished, but it's mostly done. I still have some small stuff to do and some cosmetic clean up in a couple spots. But at least now I can ride it and it's not sitting in pieces on a pallet, taking up storage space in my garage.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-no3d1Im6c...208_155911.jpg

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-1A_vybNUc...208_155919.jpg

gster 12-08-18 10:19 PM


Originally Posted by SirMike1983 (Post 20696810)
The 1930s Phillips is back on the road. The project is not yet finished, but it's mostly done. I still have some small stuff to do and some cosmetic clean up in a couple spots. But at least now I can ride it and it's not sitting in pieces on a pallet, taking up storage space in my garage.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-no3d1Im6c...208_155911.jpg

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-1A_vybNUc...208_155919.jpg

That ticks all the boxes.
No chain guard?

arty dave 12-09-18 05:03 AM


Originally Posted by SirMike1983 (Post 20696810)
The 1930s Phillips is back on the road. The project is not yet finished, but it's mostly done. I still have some small stuff to do and some cosmetic clean up in a couple spots. But at least now I can ride it and it's not sitting in pieces on a pallet, taking up storage space in my garage.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-no3d1Im6c...208_155911.jpg

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-1A_vybNUc...208_155919.jpg

Nice work as always Sir Mike - 28" / 635mm wheelset?

BigChief 12-09-18 05:08 AM

Funny about that. The hockey stick chainguard existed in the 30s. You do see at least one in each year's catalog, but most models had either the full case or no guard at all. Yes, excellent work, as always from SirMike.

SirMike1983 12-09-18 11:05 AM

Thanks for the kind words.

This one doesn't ever seemed to have had a chain guard. The bike builders before WWII did offer different chain guards, and you could buy add-on guards aftermarket. But with the pre-war bikes, and especially with the more basic roadsters, they had many that lacked a chain guard.

Yes - this is a 28 inch wheel set. It has a smaller frame than many - probably 22 inch or so. The 24 inch frame on the 28 inch wheels is too tall for me, but the smaller frame fits nicely.

The massive 1939 Brown Brothers parts catalog is worth a look (all 600+ pages).

http://veterancycleclublibrary.org.u...20Library).pdf

Even before WWII, you could buy just about every part for a bike. I've spotted plenty of stuff in that catalog I'd love to have now...

56ford 12-09-18 12:07 PM

I posted this on my project bike thread but figured I would post here too. I picked up this 1951 Hercules yesterday. The bike was completely cleaned and mechanically restored so its ready to ride. It's almost original aside from missing the chain guard and the grips and pedals were replaced at some point. I'll set the original seat aside and put a Brooks on it for riding and some old black grips to replace the red.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e2aa5c8ce8.jpg

arty dave 12-09-18 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by 56ford (Post 20697432)
I posted this on my project bike thread but figured I would post here too. I picked up this 1951 Hercules yesterday. The bike was completely cleaned and mechanically restored so its ready to ride. It's almost original aside from missing the chain guard and the grips and pedals were replaced at some point. I'll set the original seat aside and put a Brooks on it for riding and some old black grips to replace the red.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e2aa5c8ce8.jpg

Nice! Looks to be in good condition... I like the red grips with the white darts on black. Are the chrome fenders original? They look cool too

56ford 12-09-18 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by arty dave (Post 20697679)
Nice! Looks to be in good condition... I like the red grips with the white darts on black. Are the chrome fenders original? They look cool too

The fenders do appear to be original. I kinda like the red too. I'll make a decision on the grips when the Brooks saddle arrives.

56ford 12-09-18 04:57 PM

I was just looking at the rear hub of my new Hercules and I think it says "B Type 3". The B is unfortunately pretty lightly impressed in the hub but the 3 is very strong. Does this make it a 1953? I'm not sure how the previous owner arrived at it being a '51. Its always possible with these bikes that the rear wheel is not original but being that its Hercules and the state at which the previous owner got it its very likely to be original. Anyone know why some cranks have "HERCULES" written out and some have "H"s?

56ford 12-09-18 06:46 PM

Interesting thing I found on another forum. Apparently the white spires paint scheme by the head tube and on the fork with the 5 color seat tube chevrons was a one year only scheme for 1953. It was in honor of the coronation of Queen Elizabeth II. Assuming that information is correct along with the hub date B Type 3 should confirm it being a 1953.

RobHalligan 12-09-18 07:53 PM

Maybe it's as you say, but mostly I'm buying bikes that already have handle bars that aren't holding their positions and won't hold when trying to make them hold by torqueing them. It may be anomalous, but it's my world.


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