Revisiting Drop Bars...
So, this last weekend (Friday, that is) I was out and about on my steel vintage that I had brought back from the dead and hybridized. At some point I was bent over the flat bars and barreling down a very mild descent at 40+km/h, and I caught myself thinking, "oh, I could so use a pair of drop bars right now!"
And that pretty much ruined the rest of my ride! So, I don't know. Maybe I should give drop bars - and drop-bar levers, maybe even brifters - another chance! And I say this even though I'm not doing too well on the weight loss front (more than anything, I think I may be sabotaging my own hard work!) What I really need right now is some help (over)thinking this! |
The only solution is to buy another bike.
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Originally Posted by tempocyclist
(Post 22703075)
The only solution is to buy another bike.
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One can never have too many bicycles. A different one for every occassion and mood.
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Originally Posted by tempocyclist
(Post 22703075)
The only solution is to buy another bike.
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If you are thinking of replacing your flat bar with drops, don't just stick a drop bar into the same stem at the same height, because then your primary position (on the hoods) will be about 4 inches farther away than it is currently. 4 inches is a lot to try and make up with a shorter stem - 101mm! That's almost the entire length of an average road bike stem! So, yeah - a dedicated drop bar bike may be the best solution. I hear the used bike market is getting cheaper, so maybe look there.
EDIT: Yes, go with brifters. Not only is it more convenient, but the shifting on bikes that have them is generally WAY better than any bike with downtube shifters. And if you're used to shifting without removing your hands from the bars, going to DT shifters can be jarring. |
Originally Posted by genejockey
(Post 22703394)
If you are thinking of replacing your flat bar with drops, don't just stick a drop bar into the same stem at the same height, because then your primary position (on the hoods) will be about 4 inches farther away than it is currently. 4 inches is a lot to try and make up with a shorter stem - 101mm! That's almost the entire length of an average road bike stem! So, yeah - a dedicated drop bar bike may be the best solution. I hear the used bike market is getting cheaper, so maybe look there.
EDIT: Yes, go with brifters. Not only is it more convenient, but the shifting on bikes that have them is generally WAY better than any bike with downtube shifters. And if you're used to shifting without removing your hands from the bars, going to DT shifters can be jarring. https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...727c6f4855.jpg That looks like this today: https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f67af173d5.jpg And yes, to ride this bike after almost two decades of being in storage and use the DT shifters after years of indexed twist and trigger flat-bar shifters was jarring. But those same DT shifters were perfectly fine way back in the 1990s they were all I knew and all I had, when I was a little skinnier and a little more flexible! Today, my stiffer body - and my stubborn pot belly - get in the way of a lot of things 😅 |
Originally Posted by sjanzeir
(Post 22703656)
Actually, the bike in question used to be a proper drop-bar one with DT shifters...
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...727c6f4855.jpg .... way back in the 1990s ... |
Originally Posted by SoSmellyAir
(Post 22704101)
The first bike on the ground during Operation Desert Storm? :lol:
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If you want to lose weight it is a simple formulae: Decrease caloric intake and increase exercise intensity and duration. For me, I cannot decrease the food intake very easily, as I don't overeat. I just crank up the mileage. You have to ride a lot to offset the increased hunger.
Looking at the photos, I would keep the frame and wheels, get a new modern drop bar and brifters, and any drivetrain parts to make it functional. Also think about pedals and shoes, shorts, gloves, and maybe a quick saddle adjustment (your saddle clamp is backwards for most people, hard to say without seeing you on the bike. Look at good riders about your size for fore and aft as well as leg extension). Personally, I would ride the wheels off a bike like that. Nothing wrong with it if you are comfortable on it. By the way, nice looking handlebar conversion. |
Originally Posted by venturi95
(Post 22704231)
If you want to lose weight it is a simple formulae: Decrease caloric intake and increase exercise intensity and duration... don't overeat... crank up the mileage... ride a lot to offset the increased hunger.
Originally Posted by venturi95
(Post 22704231)
your saddle clamp is backwards
Originally Posted by venturi95
(Post 22704231)
By the way, nice looking handlebar conversion.
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Originally Posted by sjanzeir
(Post 22703071)
So, this last weekend (Friday, that is) I was out and about on my steel vintage that I had brought back from the dead and hybridized. At some point I was bent over the flat bars and barreling down a very mild descent at 40+km/h, and I caught myself thinking, "oh, I could so use a pair of drop bars right now!"
And that pretty much ruined the rest of my ride! So, I don't know. Maybe I should give drop bars - and drop-bar levers, maybe even brifters - another chance! And I say this even though I'm not doing too well on the weight loss front (more than anything, I think I may be sabotaging my own hard work!) What I really need right now is some help (over)thinking this! I have used these at speeds of greater than 45 MPH, and they work well. It's a $22 easy button for you. https://www.amazon.com/Venzo-Road-Bi...43619729&psc=1 |
Originally Posted by Shadco
(Post 22703307)
Best answer.
I'd just look on Cragslist for a good condition used road bike, |
Originally Posted by sjanzeir
(Post 22703071)
So, this last weekend (Friday, that is) I was out and about on my steel vintage that I had brought back from the dead and hybridized. At some point I was bent over the flat bars and barreling down a very mild descent at 40+km/h, and I caught myself thinking, "oh, I could so use a pair of drop bars right now!"
And that pretty much ruined the rest of my ride! So, I don't know. Maybe I should give drop bars - and drop-bar levers, maybe even brifters - another chance! And I say this even though I'm not doing too well on the weight loss front (more than anything, I think I may be sabotaging my own hard work!) What I really need right now is some help (over)thinking this! The stem you have looks like it's adjustable. Can you raise it anymore? As others have said, converting to road bars and integrated shifters will be an expensive conversion. You will need new derailleurs along with the new shifters and may need different brake calipers. Many recent road bikes are what are called endurance bikes and have a more upright geometry. Your bike's geometry looks very aggressive. |
I'm not very flexible, and certainly not as flexible as I used to be in 1995, back when this used to be the do-it-all daily conveyance. Between my lack of flexibility and my losing battle with my potbelly (I won that war just before COVID, but I've been eating my feelings lately) the flat bar conversation seemed to make sense... until I actually did it and rode the bike and realized that maybe I should've had a little more discipline and stuck with drop bars!
With that being said, I have a set of NOS Sora 2x7 brifters that the shipping agent should be dropping off any day now. I still have the original drop bars; all I need is some new bar tape that I can pick up locally. I still have the original, non-adjustable quill stem, but I'm going to be using the adjustable one for now. Other than that - brake/shift cables, ferrules and what not - I've got everything I need. |
Originally Posted by sjanzeir
(Post 22715032)
I'm not very flexible, and certainly not as flexible as I used to be in 1995, back when this used to be the do-it-all daily conveyance. Between my lack of flexibility and my losing battle with my potbelly (I won that war just before COVID, but I've been eating my feelings lately) the flat bar conversation seemed to make sense... until I actually did it and rode the bike and realized that maybe I should've had a little more discipline and stuck with drop bars!
With that being said, I have a set of NOS Sora 2x7 brifters that the shipping agent should be dropping off any day now. I still have the original drop bars; all I need is some new bar tape that I can pick up locally. I still have the original, non-adjustable quill stem, but I'm going to be using the adjustable one for now. Other than that - brake/shift cables, ferrules and what not - I've got everything I need. https://ritcheylogic.com/bike/handlebars Make sure your stem attachment is compatible. Most newer road bars are 31.8mm. |
Yes, a new-to-you bike. After you did all the work to change over to a flat bar, leave it alone. It's still a good bike. Everyone needs at least 2 bikes. You go out in the garage and the bike has a flat. You just grab the other one and fix the flat later. Etc.
But really, what you'll find on the used market will be bikes which were put together with components which were all current at the time. IOW, they all work properly together. That's the main thing. You'll love it. |
Originally Posted by Lombard
(Post 22715122)
If you have issues with flexibility, I would not use your old handlebars. There are some good short reach road bars here:
https://ritcheylogic.com/bike/handlebars Make sure your stem attachment is compatible. Most newer road bars are 31.8mm. |
Here we go again. I've been riding drop bar bikes for over 50 years, but I can't tell you whether you're going to like it or not, only that the new bikes are more comfortable and easier to use.
Go to a local shop that rents bikes and rent a road bike for a weekend, and see if you like it. Even better, get out of town where there are some roads you'd like to explore, and find a shop there. And make sure the shop takes a few minutes to set you up right on it. |
I go back and forth on this so often I can’t even count the times I’ve swapped. I’m in the same boat as you: a little too pudgy to entirely feel comfortable on drops. So right now, uprights are still winning for me, but I did just pick up a 91 Bianchi Volpe and I’m building it up with the original drops.
my advice: pick up another similar Raleigh in your size and keep the drops on it. Then you’d have both. |
Originally Posted by denaffen
(Post 22720096)
I go back and forth on this so often I can’t even count the times I’ve swapped. I’m in the same boat as you: a little too pudgy to entirely feel comfortable on drops. So right now, uprights are still winning for me, but I did just pick up a 91 Bianchi Volpe and I’m building it up with the original drops.
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Originally Posted by SoSmellyAir
(Post 22720237)
If you are pudgy, you might find that current drop handlebars with a shorter reach and a shallower drop much more comfortable than the original, period correct handlebars. But finding a stem compatible with both the frame and the 31.8 mm clamp diameter may be difficult.
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Originally Posted by Lombard
(Post 22720489)
Pudgy has nothing to do with needing a shorter or higher reach. I have spinal issues, but am not pudgy. Bent over too far is painful. I need for the bars to be at least level with the saddle.
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Originally Posted by SoSmellyAir
(Post 22720495)
I am sorry to hear you have spinal issues. I did not say you were pudgy. I made my prior post in response to denaffen.
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Originally Posted by Lombard
(Post 22720489)
Pudgy has nothing to do with needing a shorter or higher reach. I have spinal issues, but am not pudgy. Bent over too far is painful. I need for the bars to be at least level with the saddle.
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