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gster 06-17-21 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by hihik (Post 22106767)
If I bring another bike home Iím afraid I will be declared mentally unfit by my wife :D I donít really need another bike, I donít even want one at this point. I have to finish restoring the mountain bike I got. Then build up the touring rig on the base of the Super Mirage. I got the Phillips because it was free. Iím taking it slow with this one!

The first one's always free.
That's how they hook you.

thumpism 06-18-21 06:52 PM

From the original owner.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...92151318563286

https://scontent.fric1-2.fna.fbcdn.n...b4&oe=60D28EC3

cudak888 06-18-21 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by gster (Post 22106885)
The first one's always free.
That's how they hook you.

That's how I got into this hobby.

-Kurt

gster 06-18-21 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by cudak888 (Post 22108326)
That's how I got into this hobby.

-Kurt

Me 2

gster 06-20-21 07:04 AM

Viking Frame
I stopped in to see George of Parts Unknown yesterday.
He had an interesting frame that had just come in.
A Viking
This is a stock photo
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8410882b37.jpg
I was considering it for a 3 speed build but on examination the front forks were badly bent (sideways).
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a1df58d745.jpg
The head badge dates it from 1950 to 1955
I'm sure they could be repaired but not by me.
http://classicvikingcycles.com/photo...alley-sn-v745/
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...6118764413.jpg
It may have been one of these as it had a headlamp mount on the fork and evidence of a derailleur hanger that had been cut off.
From the 1960 catalogue
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c74bae6d26.png
This odd ball with a convertible top bar.....

RustyJames 06-20-21 10:29 PM


Originally Posted by hihik (Post 22106660)
Funny - immediately after I posted here this showed up locally.

They take cryptocurrency so go for it!

smurfy 06-21-21 04:01 PM

Unfortunately I had to postpone and maybe even abandon my Raleigh project. The fork I already had to scrap since the cone and stem is hopelessly stuck inside the steerer and ended up deforming it (if it wasn't like that already). Seatpost is still stuck inside seat tube and it won't budge. I'm not sure what I'm going to do with it at this point. I wish I was retired so I can devote more time to it but that's simply not available at this time. Maybe find a good home for it. Stay tuned!
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1d45ebabc1.jpg

Salubrious 06-21-21 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by smurfy (Post 22111848)
Unfortunately I had to postpone and maybe even abandon my Raleigh project. The fork I already had to scrap since the cone and stem is hopelessly stuck inside the steerer and ended up deforming it (if it wasn't like that already). Seatpost is still stuck inside seat tube and it won't budge. I'm not sure what I'm going to do with it at this point. I wish I was retired so I can devote more time to it but that's simply not available at this time. Maybe find a good home for it. Stay tuned!

You need some Kroil. Take it someplace where you don't have to worry about the odor. Let it dribble into the tubing around the seatpost and also the stem. Then let it sit a couple days and then see if that stuff is still stuck. I once got a fairly nice bike (Reynolds tubing) that had a stuck seatpost that three different shops gave up on- and was the reason I got it. With Kroil I had that seatpost out in five minutes. kanolabs.com is the link. You used to be able to order off their website but I think that's changed.

cudak888 06-21-21 07:11 PM


Originally Posted by smurfy (Post 22111848)
Unfortunately I had to postpone and maybe even abandon my Raleigh project. The fork I already had to scrap since the cone and stem is hopelessly stuck inside the steerer and ended up deforming it (if it wasn't like that already). Seatpost is still stuck inside seat tube and it won't budge. I'm not sure what I'm going to do with it at this point. I wish I was retired so I can devote more time to it but that's simply not available at this time. Maybe find a good home for it. Stay tuned!

Stupid question: In removing the seatpost, have you been leveraging it with a saddle installed on it? I only ask as the initial photo showed it without one.

It may still be possible to get that wedge out, but given the steerer bulging, it's probably best to dig up another fork. They're not uncommon, but you may be better off if you find another complete Sports. I don't recall; did yours come with a workable wheelset?

-Kurt

erileykc 06-22-21 07:46 AM

SA AW indicator pin lengths ?
 
Thanks to forum member Thumpism I have a replacement index pin for my 79 Tourist Sturmey AW hub but it is significantly longer than the original. As I cast about for a shorter version is there a model descriptor of pin types better than simply looking for it by length that I can use to zero in on the correct indicator pin?

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...5c844863ca.jpg

nlerner 06-22-21 07:58 AM

^ The important part to keep the same length is that solid barrel on the left. The little chain length doesn’t matter as you’ll just adjust the shift cable or the placement of the fulcrum sleeve to compensate. Looks like the replacement you have will work.

erileykc 06-22-21 08:13 AM

No the length over all matters in this case as I don't have enough adjustment range with the added length no matter how much I move the shifter or the cable mount. Just need the shorter indicator pin.



Originally Posted by nlerner (Post 22112560)
^ The important part to keep the same length is that solid barrel on the left. The little chain length doesnít matter as youíll just adjust the shift cable or the placement of the fulcrum sleeve to compensate. Looks like the replacement you have will work.


Salubrious 06-22-21 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by erileykc (Post 22112570)
No the length over all matters in this case as I don't have enough adjustment range with the added length no matter how much I move the shifter or the cable mount. Just need the shorter indicator pin.

You don't move the shifter normally. But the position of the fulcrum clip is one adjustment and the location of the pulley is the other. Between the two the new toggle chain is no worries.

erileykc 06-22-21 12:28 PM

Ah ha! Hadn't thought to move the pulley - thanks.


Originally Posted by Salubrious (Post 22112793)
You don't move the shifter normally. But the position of the fulcrum clip is one adjustment and the location of the pulley is the other. Between the two the new toggle chain is no worries.


clubman 06-22-21 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by gster (Post 22109765)
Viking Frame
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8410882b37.jpg
I was considering it for a 3 speed build but on examination the front forks were badly bent (sideways).

..

I'd buy that and pay to get it fixed. If it were 4 cm's smaller that is.

gster 06-22-21 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by clubman (Post 22112977)
I'd buy that and pay to get it fixed. If it were 4 cm's smaller that is.

That's a photo from the interweb, George's has been painted a baby blue colour.

clubman 06-22-21 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by gster (Post 22112988)
That's a photo from the interweb, George's has been painted a baby blue colour.

George was never a purist. But always kind.

thumpism 06-22-21 09:33 PM

Looks like a Sturmey on this unusual Batavus. Can't figure out how the cable is routed at the back from these photos. Looks like a bolt-on cable guide to keep it away from the chainguard hardware. Also, chrome fork might be a replacement. And it looks like a tall ladies' frame.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...67953067221390

https://scontent.fric1-2.fna.fbcdn.n...28&oe=60D81587


Found this:
https://thecabe.com/forum/attachment...2-png.1276258/

cudak888 06-22-21 09:47 PM


Originally Posted by thumpism (Post 22113601)
Looks like a Sturmey on this unusual Batavus. Can't figure out how the cable is routed at the back from these photos. Looks like a bolt-on cable guide to keep it away from the chainguard hardware. Also, chrome fork might be a replacement. And it looks like a tall ladies' frame.

That's an axle-mounted cable stop. Sturmey still uses a version of this on modern bikes that come with the current AW and SRF-3, just with a plastic cap over the bracket:

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...92334a2c49.jpg


-Kurt

thumpism 06-22-21 10:33 PM

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...38313800418484

https://scontent.fric1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...4c&oe=60D83CB5

gster 06-23-21 04:20 AM


Originally Posted by clubman (Post 22113071)
George was never a purist. But always kind.

Agreed.

thumpism 06-23-21 08:48 PM

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...98182564792727

https://scontent.fric1-2.fna.fbcdn.n...52&oe=60D82AFD

anotherbike 06-24-21 03:36 PM

I've been knocking around the idea of building something a little different, what I think I'd like to have is something somewhere between a classic English three speed and a mountain bike.
Most of the comfortable riding here is on hard packed wooded trails, along farm roads, fields, and a few oil and stone paved roads. Most paved roads have no shoulders and aren't suited for bicycles these days.
Even the trails are dwindling, some being replaced by paved bike 'trails to nowhere' that tend to be dangerous places to be if riding alone these days. Most of those also close after normal 'state park hours'.

What I found is a 22" Raleigh Grand Mesa which although was considered a mountain bike in its day really isn't your common mtb frame. The frame has a very relaxed geometry and currently has Raleigh scripted 26x1 5/8x1 1/2" tires on it (584mm).
With the sudden availability of that size tire, I figured it may be a good choice for the build. What I'm thinking is lacing a 3 speed rear hub to it, and finding a set of Roadster fenders for it, a set of north road bars, and a suitable saddle, a Raleigh heron crankset. and chainguard.
I'd likely go just a bit wider on the tires but nothing too wide. I found a set of higher pressure 2" tires that are on the narrow side of their rating, which may be an option. If the original tires weren't petrified, I'd likely leave them alone but the gum sidewalls have turned dark brown and nearly to the point of flaking off. The tread though still has its original mold flashing on it. I doubt the bike was ever ridden much, it likely just sat and aged in some old shed all its life.
I've been riding a 1975 Raleigh Sports and an 80's Schwinn beach cruiser, and neither are ideal for where I ride. The beach cruiser is too slow and clunky, the Raleigh doesn't like sand or muddy areas, and I don't like seeing my one owner
all original Sports covered in mud or field dust.

arty dave 06-25-21 03:13 AM

Sounds great! I regret selling my 80's MTB & I'd love to get another - they have such a nice laid back geometry. Keep us updated on the build
...oh and we need pics

Salubrious 06-25-21 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by anotherbike (Post 22116292)
What I found is a 22" Raleigh Grand Mesa which although was considered a mountain bike in its day really isn't your common mtb frame. The frame has a very relaxed geometry and currently has Raleigh scripted 26x1 5/8x1 1/2" tires on it (584mm).
With the sudden availability of that size tire, I figured it may be a good choice for the build. What I'm thinking is lacing a 3 speed rear hub to it, and finding a set of Roadster fenders for it, a set of north road bars, and a suitable saddle, a Raleigh heron crankset. and chainguard.

650b is a nice tire size- there is a reason it was the preferred size for Randonneuring.
I built a three speed mountain bike 30 years ago that was a lot of fun until it was stolen.

gster 06-25-21 06:08 PM

Nice Bike but Overpriced
A Raleigh built Supercycle
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8ee0dffc48.png
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a82a89d486.png
Seller is asking $450 Canadian

thumpism 06-25-21 06:43 PM

Thirty buck 23" Robin Hood in Pittsburgh.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...51053775082752

https://scontent.fric1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...2a&oe=60DC3874

thumpism 06-26-21 07:05 PM

How about a nice leetle Fransh Automoto?

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...73231036029582

https://scontent.fric1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...82&oe=60DCA4CB

cudak888 06-26-21 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by thumpism (Post 22119099)
How about a nice leetle Fransh Automoto?

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...73231036029582

Not for $600.

Love the fenders and the Trygg stand though.

-Kurt

rich110 06-29-21 04:24 PM

I have a raleigh with a 3 speed SA hub that is giving me trouble.

Can I just swap out the entire core/axle without swapping the shell?
Original is a 1984 AW with the curved SA logo, can I just put in an earlier model? I see lots of late '70s - early 80s AW on ebay with the square logo. Will they fit my shell?


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