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Small cog 12-11-23 10:21 PM


Originally Posted by Cyclespanner (Post 23097474)
Phew!
Just 'bagged' the above cycle for 31.
Looking at the photo's, very original; all it needs is a shine, a lube job and a decent Brooks saddle and a pair of pedals.
Waiting to hear from the vendor, to agree payment an arrange my trip to him; 4hrs there and back.
Lord knows where I'm going to put it.

Thanks to 'small cog', it's all his fault!

A good looking bike that looks like it needs minimal cleaning up, well done I look forward to the after polishing photos.

markk900 12-12-23 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by bikamper (Post 23097791)
Yes it is. Many bikes have been hauled on the Russian Mini Tractor.

Hippo Hands too - none of these wimpy modern heated grips.... :)

We have an Ural/Royal Enfield dealer not far from our house. Fun shop to visit - just like a C&V bicycle shop except everything is modern (at least in actual age - design tech is somewhat older).

bikamper 12-12-23 04:07 PM


Originally Posted by markk900 (Post 23098338)
Hippo Hands too - none of these wimpy modern heated grips.... :)

We have an Ural/Royal Enfield dealer not far from our house. Fun shop to visit - just like a C&V bicycle shop except everything is modern (at least in actual age - design tech is somewhat older).

Um... er...about the heated grips, they're Oxfords.:) The heat settings are Off, Second Off, I did turn these on, didn't I?, Ahhh, dat's nice, and Sunuva...:eek:

There's a Ural/Royal Enfield/CF Moto/SSR/Zero dealer 30 minutes from me. I'm on a first name basis with the staff.

Cyclespanner 12-12-23 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by bikamper (Post 23098504)
Um... er...about the heated grips, they're Oxfords.:) The heat settings are Off, Second Off, I did turn these on, didn't I?, Ahhh, dat's nice, and Sunuva...:eek:

There's a Ural/Royal Enfield/CF Moto/SSR/Zero dealer 30 minutes from me. I'm on a first name basis with the staff.

Back in the 1980's I weekly commuted from Yorkshire to London (186 miles each way) every week for 10 years on various BMW's at constant high speeds.
I can honestly say I felt no benefit at all using such Elephant Bags.
Very quickly adopted heated grips, heated gloves and heated jacket. The cylinders heated my feet!
The biggest problem was visibility.
Looking back, I must have been mad.

thumpism 12-12-23 04:41 PM


Originally Posted by bikamper (Post 23097791)
Yes it is. Many bikes have been hauled on the Russian Mini Tractor.

A friend here is going to be selling his Ural rig. He also has a very deluxe Gold Wing hack. I'm tempted to get the Ural but should probably stick with my plan to get a small dual sport instead.

Cyclespanner 12-12-23 05:08 PM

UK ebay
Here's one for the discerning cyclist....
1958 Rudge De-Luxe Super Tourist. 23'', stainless wheels.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...72b16dd23e.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...864f3225d8.jpg

clubman 12-12-23 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by Cyclespanner (Post 23098552)
UK ebay
Here's one for the discerning cyclist....
1958 Rudge De-Luxe Super Tourist. 23'', stainless wheels.

Soooo nice.

thumpism 12-13-23 06:57 AM

I posted this in the December thread and emphasized there that I don't need the bike, my last score from the old co-op's junk pile, so I'm also mentioning here that it's taking up space. If anyone wants to swing by and pick it up, please feel free to do so. I gave away a newer and nicer one to a niece so I hope someone can use this one. No time for me to work on it; I have two more in my size that need attention in addition to multiple other wheeled and non-wheeled projects. PM to pursue this.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b8006e70e7.jpg

1989Pre 12-13-23 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by Cyclespanner (Post 23098552)
UK ebay
Here's one for the discerning cyclist....
1958 Rudge De-Luxe Super Tourist. 23'', stainless wheels.

That maroon is very pleasant. The B66 looks like it just came from the box. I'm wondering where the cable on the left chain-stay is going to.

gster 12-13-23 11:58 AM

An Odd Issue
My favourite bike, the Bitsa had an unusual problem last week
I was casually riding home when the back wheel "locked up".
That is to say it wouldn't free wheel backwards. I was literally 1\2 a block
from home and when I got there flicked the trigger from 2nd to 3rd where it also locked in place.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...d9bc3ecaa7.jpg
I call it a Bitsa as it was assembled from a variety of parts on hand including a 70's Glider frame with the rear wheel running a 61 hub.,
Up until this point 100% reliable.
I'm away at the moment but will open it up when I get back.
For some reason I suspect the axle key may have failed.

dweenk 12-13-23 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by Cyclespanner (Post 23098511)
Back in the 1980's I weekly commuted from Yorkshire to London (186 miles each way) every week for 10 years on various BMW's at constant high speeds.
I can honestly say I felt no benefit at all using such Elephant Bags.
Very quickly adopted heated grips, heated gloves and heated jacket. The cylinders heated my feet!
The biggest problem was visibility.
Looking back, I must have been mad.

Like this?

Cyclespanner 12-13-23 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by 1989Pre (Post 23099219)
That maroon is very pleasant. The B66 looks like it just came from the box. I'm wondering where the cable on the left chain-stay is going to.

That would be wiring from the Dynohub.

Cyclespanner 12-13-23 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by dweenk (Post 23099396)

Nay, lad.
Just look at 'em; They had it easy.
When I were a lad.....I cycled to school, and whipped a tyre along with a stick.

George Mann 12-13-23 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by bikamper (Post 23095796)
Out and about this cold evening on the the 68 Superbe.
https://i.imgur.com/wahCHz8l.jpg

How much does your bike weigh without the addons?

bikamper 12-13-23 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by George Mann (Post 23099468)
How much does your bike weigh without the addons?

Probably around 40lbs. There isn't much in the seat bag, the stove tank is empty, and it sports CR18 rims. So, still less than the sidecar rig.

zookster 12-13-23 07:01 PM

Rod Brake Raleigh $150 Gulf Breeze FL
 
Raleigh

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...79e440462e.jpg

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c21e2ca0d9.jpg

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...be4ab6f680.jpg

1989Pre 12-14-23 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by zookster (Post 23099630)

Somebody's going to be getting a good bike! A hot, soapy sponge and they'll be the talk of the town.

Cyclespanner 12-15-23 06:00 AM

Your patience please....
Which of the 4 speed internals drop streight into an AW and or Dynohub (+ a suitable trigger)?
Thank you.

EDIT:
A Bell Systems crimper is often recommended for ferules.
But which type/model of crimper?
Anyone got a photo of one.
Doubt if the US product is available here in the UK.
With a photo I may be able to find something similar here.

zookster 12-15-23 08:01 AM


Originally Posted by 1989Pre (Post 23100435)
Somebody's going to be getting a good bike! A hot, soapy sponge and they'll be the talk of the town.


My brother lives nearby, could help facilitate if anyone is interested. I would be, but it is far too tall for me.

tcs 12-15-23 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by Cyclespanner (Post 23100843)
Which of the 4 speed internals drop straight into an AW and or Dynohub (+ a suitable trigger)?

A solon over on the Cycle UK forum said:
"An S5, S5-1, S5-2 internal can be installed into an AW hub shell that is date stamped to before April 1984.
After that date, SA changed the L/H ball cup/low gear ratchet to incorporate an extension that fouls the 5-speed internal.
"

Methinks an FW should stand in for an S5 just fine.

thumpism 12-16-23 08:35 AM

Tall Dutch stepthrough for $200 in SC.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...97756077422309

https://scontent-iad3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...EQ&oe=65834295

missingspoke 12-18-23 05:11 AM


Originally Posted by thumpism (Post 23098973)
I posted this in the December thread and emphasized there that I don't need the bike, my last score from the old co-op's junk pile, so I'm also mentioning here that it's taking up space. If anyone wants to swing by and pick it up, please feel free to do so. I gave away a newer and nicer one to a niece so I hope someone can use this one. No time for me to work on it; I have two more in my size that need attention in addition to multiple other wheeled and non-wheeled projects. PM to pursue this.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b8006e70e7.jpg


There was one at the local flea market last week in half that condition, the guy was asking $300. It was gone by the end of the day, not sure how much he sold it for but he turned down $200 while I was standing there.

I've always wondered if all the $300 department store bikes ever actually sell on CL and FB, there's certainly no shortage of them lately.
The good bikes go cheap, no one seems to remember what a decent bike was like.

gna 12-18-23 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by Cyclespanner (Post 23100843)

A Bell Systems crimper is often recommended for ferules.
But which type/model of crimper?
Anyone got a photo of one.
Doubt if the US product is available here in the UK.
With a photo I may be able to find something similar here.

There are a variety of Bell Systems/Nicopress Crimpers out there.
Not sure I can help, but I have one like this:
Nicopress

I think I paid about $10 for mine.

Cyclespanner 12-18-23 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by gna (Post 23103677)
There are a variety of Bell Systems/Nicopress Crimpers out there.
Not sure I can help, but I have one like this:
Nicopress

I think I paid about $10 for mine.

Ah, that's a big help , thank you.
Now I know what type of hens tooth to look for.

Cyclespanner 12-18-23 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by 1989Pre (Post 23097549)
It looks about a '67? I did not know GB brakes appeared on Raleigh Sports. Thanks for saving this one. The red should look stunning pretty soon.

Both hubs stamped 65 6, which means it's from the models first year.
Frame a lovely metalic red with very few blemishes, though decals rubbed.
Fenders/mudguard and chainguard are none metalic red. Doubt if that's original; possibly re-painted before going into storage (not a speck of dirt underneath). No dents at all.
All chrome recoverable, minimal surface rust.
Chain-wheel 6 point, clockwise herons WITH EYES.
Old but new Taiwanese cheepo tyres, holding pressure.
Removing front wheel, to get it into my car highlighted how bloomin' difficult that is (spindle flats, spigoted nuts and key-hole drop-outs). Going to devise a spreader tool.
A good lube job, thorough wash and polish and should be ready for a new lifetime of service.
31lbs.

SirMike1983 12-18-23 12:47 PM

For shifter cables and double-ended brake cables (Raleigh type), I use a Bell Systems Model B crimper. I've seen the Model D used for brake cables as well, but I get a tighter fit with the Model B.

I would think you could order one from the US if you needed. They're not a large hand tool. They're like the size of a set of 6 inch handle wire cutters, roughly.''

Edit - a final note: the Bell Crimpers have a compound compression, which I think is helpful for really getting the ends onto the cables.

Cyclespanner 12-18-23 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by SirMike1983 (Post 23103838)
For shifter cables and double-ended brake cables (Raleigh type), I use a Bell Systems Model B crimper. I've seen the Model D used for brake cables as well, but I get a tighter fit with the Model B.

I would think you could order one from the US if you needed. They're not a large hand tool. They're like the size of a set of 6 inch handle wire cutters, roughly.

Thank you.
A brief UK search reveals one or two similar tools, though they ain't cheap!
The killer with ordering from the US is shipping.
Wonder if a forum member could source one and look into what the shipping would cost?
Please PM me if you can help.

EDIT: Got one of these (11)....

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e4f40fb8e8.jpg

Cyclespanner 12-18-23 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by Johno59 (Post 20638512)
Spoiler
 
Unfortunately not. The great wealth and industrial production was at the expense of worker's well-being. The average Joe's diet had very little good protein - it still hasn't.
The current Queen is less than 5 foot tall. Queen Victoria was 2 inches shorter . I doubt either ever went hungry.

Sorry to delve into this old theme.....
I was born 1955 in Yorkshire and at best got to 5' 7'' and ate well.
My brother, born in 1959, lived on rice pudding and french fries into his teens, never touched anything green, yet turned into a 6' 2'' bruiser!
Dad, a coal miner was 5' 7'', mum 5' 5''. No one in the family except my brother was over 5' 7''.
Go figure.

capnjonny 12-18-23 03:09 PM

Does anyone know how to obtain a key for the raleigh sport 3 spdfork. I am restoring one currently that has the keyed fork but no key. A woman whose husband just died donated his old Raleigh to the bike Exchange and asked if she could have first right of refusal to purchase it back when we sell it. I am doing a mechanical resto including a clear coat to lock in the nice patina and would like to be able to give her a key for the fork.

Cyclespanner 12-18-23 03:20 PM

Unfortunately I can't help, but this topic has been covered within this thread.
From what II remember it is still possible to buy a key, but you'd have to locate the locks serial number.
Alternatively, any decent locksmith should be able to sort your problem.

Use the search box 'Raleigh fork lock key'.
There's several responses.


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