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jfouellette 08-30-22 03:34 PM

Fnhon bike stolen today
 
Well it was bound to happen. Locked it at the metro station at 7am. Came back at 4 pm and it was gone. About 20 000 bikes are stolen every year in Montreal. I was able to ride this new build from April to August. I still haven’t paid my credit card for the microshift derailleur shifter and cassette installed last week :mad:. No more nice bikes for me.


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...710ce738e.jpeg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...65a3ff01e.jpeg

Ron Damon 08-30-22 04:20 PM

Sorry to hear it.😥

willydstyle 08-30-22 05:50 PM

My condolences.

Fentuz 08-31-22 01:54 AM

Desolé! C'est vraiment dommage.

Jipe 08-31-22 02:07 AM

I am very sorry for you.

The drawback of folding bike that are easy to carry is that they are as easy to be stolen !

For the Brompton in Europe its a nightmare because there is a high demand for used Brompton and the used price are high, so its probably the best deal for thief.

But other folding bikes, even if less attractive because of lower value or less known, are also stolen.

The rule with a folding bike is to never leave it outside, always take it with you.

joey buzzard 08-31-22 03:17 AM

Sorry to hear of your loss. I hope that it doesn't put you off keepng a nice bike for too long, or even better still, miracle of miracles, your stolen Fnhon finds its way back to you.

​Our of curiosity, which metro station did it go missing from outside of? I realise it could happen anywhere, but it's good to know where the larceny occured so that I can pause and consider my options should I ever end up in that very place and be tempted to lock up my bike for a period of time. Also, did they cut through or pry apart a lock and if so, what kind was it? I use these abus folding locks these days.

https://www.abus.com/uk/Mobile-Secur...Lite-6055-Mini

In general I only lock up for short periods when I need to nip into a shop, etc. In Victoria B.C. the city has introduced a valet bike parking service downtown. Maybe something similar needs to be provided at the busier Montreal Metro stations?

Anyway, good luck. Hope you get your bike back, or at least some payback in golden karma.

Origami is rolling out a new Swift sometime in the nearaway future. If you change your mind about having another nice bike and you fancy another folder that rides well and is rather fast it might be worth considering.

GeezyRider 08-31-22 07:58 AM

This is disheartening. Just as one member's bike is luckily recovered another's is stolen. A fine example of why I like dogs more than people.

Jipe 08-31-22 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by joey buzzard (Post 22630578)
Sorry to hear of your loss. I hope that it doesn't put you off keepng a nice bike for too long, or even better still, miracle of miracles, your stolen Fnhon finds its way back to you.

​Our of curiosity, which metro station did it go missing from outside of? I realise it could happen anywhere, but it's good to know where the larceny occured so that I can pause and consider my options should I ever end up in that very place and be tempted to lock up my bike for a period of time. Also, did they cut through or pry apart a lock and if so, what kind was it? I use these abus folding locks these days.

https://www.abus.com/uk/Mobile-Secur...Lite-6055-Mini

In general I only lock up for short periods when I need to nip into a shop, etc. In Victoria B.C. the city has introduced a valet bike parking service downtown. Maybe something similar needs to be provided at the busier Montreal Metro stations?

Anyway, good luck. Hope you get your bike back, or at least some payback in golden karma.

Origami is rolling out a new Swift sometime in the nearaway future. If you change your mind about having another nice bike and you fancy another folder that rides well and is rather fast it might be worth considering.

The Abus Bordo (including the Granit, the highest security one) is so easy to break that it is rated number one by bike thieves who love it!

pinholecam 08-31-22 08:33 PM

Sorry about the lost.
I know that sinking feeling upon retuning to the parked spot to find the bike missing....

jfouellette 09-01-22 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by joey buzzard (Post 22630578)
Sorry to hear of your loss. I hope that it doesn't put you off keepng a nice bike for too long, or even better still, miracle of miracles, your stolen Fnhon finds its way back to you.

​Our of curiosity, which metro station did it go missing from outside of? I realise it could happen anywhere, but it's good to know where the larceny occured so that I can pause and consider my options should I ever end up in that very place and be tempted to lock up my bike for a period of time. Also, did they cut through or pry apart a lock and if so, what kind was it? I use these abus folding locks these days.

https://www.abus.com/uk/Mobile-Secur...Lite-6055-Mini

In general I only lock up for short periods when I need to nip into a shop, etc. In Victoria B.C. the city has introduced a valet bike parking service downtown. Maybe something similar needs to be provided at the busier Montreal Metro stations?

Anyway, good luck. Hope you get your bike back, or at least some payback in golden karma.

Origami is rolling out a new Swift sometime in the nearaway future. If you change your mind about having another nice bike and you fancy another folder that rides well and is rather fast it might be worth considering.

it was stolen outside the Sauvé métro station in Montréal. They broke the lock of the cable.

jfouellette 09-01-22 03:40 PM

Not wanting to have a long period of grief, I found a replacement bike. It’s not a folding bike. It’s a made in Canada 1980’s Raleigh. 3x6 speeds Shimano derailleurs. I guess it s a vintage bike. Paid $80 cdn with mudguard and rear rack. I replaced the front brakes and it will need new tires and longer stem for a more comfortable ride. Note the friction shifters.Overall the bike is in good esthetic and mechanical condition.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...d56f07712.jpeg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...86dbef2b7.jpeg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...4dccc7e54.jpeg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...35b68db68.jpeg

HelpSingularity 09-01-22 05:05 PM

Sorry for your loss. That is just about the sh*ttyist feeling when you realize your little pride and joy is no longer there. And that was a particularly pretty bike that you had too. Again, sorry for your loss.
Recently I came out of a doctor's appointment and noticed my rather substantial cable had been cut half way through. I freaked out. When I arrived home I ordered an ABUS 10mm 5 foot chain and one of those ABUS disk type padlocks. 200+ USD. Way, way overkill for what I normally do, but oh well, what's done is done. I rarely lock my bike up for more than it takes to dash in and out of a market.
I like your new ride. I've always had a soft spot for mixtes. So it seems crazy to pay twice or more for bike security than you paid for the bike but that is the world we live in. I guess that is the tax you pay for living in such a beautiful city. Good luck with your new whip!

wesgreen 09-01-22 06:55 PM

Way too nice for NYC, but good luck!

joey buzzard 09-02-22 12:22 AM


Originally Posted by Jipe (Post 22631378)
The Abus Bordo (including the Granit, the highest security one) is so easy to break that it is rated number one by bike thieves who love it!

That may be so, but it's better than any cable lock, weighs somewhat less than a typical boat anchor and it discourages casual thieves. I avoid leaving my bike in one place unattended for any length of time and I'm extra cautious after dark, but there's always a risk and it's actually very tricky to stop a determined professional thief with an angle grinder, etc.

STM allows bicycles on Montreal Metro trains except at peak times. They should up their game and either expand their facilities for bikes on trains during these hours or else provide supervised parking, imo.


https://www.stm.info/en/info/advice/...first%20served.

GTA 09-08-22 08:03 PM

why didn't you bring it into the subway?

Jipe 09-09-22 03:23 AM


Originally Posted by joey buzzard (Post 22633310)
That may be so, but it's better than any cable lock, weighs somewhat less than a typical boat anchor and it discourages casual thieves. I avoid leaving my bike in one place unattended for any length of time and I'm extra cautious after dark, but there's always a risk and it's actually very tricky to stop a determined professional thief with an angle grinder, etc.

STM allows bicycles on Montreal Metro trains except at peak times. They should up their game and either expand their facilities for bikes on trains during these hours or else provide supervised parking, imo.


https://www.stm.info/en/info/advice/...first%20served.

Even a lightweight D-lock is better than a folding one like the Bordo!

But its true that no lock resist to a portable angle grinder unless maybe the new Hiplok D1000 ?

joey buzzard 09-09-22 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by Jipe (Post 22641231)
Even a lightweight D-lock is better than a folding one like the Bordo!

But its true that no lock resist to a portable angle grinder unless maybe the new Hiplok D1000 ?


I like the bordo lite folding locks. They dissuade most thieves and are more comfortable (more compact/lighter) to tote around with me than a clumsy u-lock.

Mostly I need something to lock my bike for relatively short periods of time while I'm in a shop, etc. I'm careful about where I leave my bike and for how long. I try not to leave it locked in one place for hours. I'd hesitate to leave it all day unattended outside a metro station.

Montreal has invested heavily in making the city bike and pedestrian friendly in recent years. Their Bixi bike scheme is the best and most popularly utilized urban bike share systems I've ever seen anywhere. The city pedestrianised the formerly nightmarishly car clogged Rue Ste Catherine for several kilometers through downtown, which is actually an incredible feat for a North American city. My last visit to Montreal was very pleasant as I had my Swift with me.. I found myself blasting through the park and up over the mountain from the Plateaux to NDG then onto Monkland Village where I was staying with an old friend. I did this back and forth at least a couple times every day. I occasionally rode the metro with the bike, but mostly I pedaled around the island and a little bit further beyond South of the River.

Athough I'd be sympathetic I'm not sure if I'd be as interested if this theft had occurred in Chicago or Tampa or Albuquerque. I simply love what Montreal has done and it tears at my heart when I hear someone say that they're giving up on having a nice small wheeler because of theft there. With all the investment that's already gone into transforming Montreal into a cycling city perhaps secure places to lock up around commuting points should become a priority? And/or let folding bikes on the metro during rush hour periods. Obviously there's room for improving things even further.

Schwinnsta 09-09-22 08:38 AM

I use this, lock and chain, when I have to leave the bike unattended. I doubt that it can be cut with a 4-foot bolt cutter (chain is hardened as much or more than cutting blades). Sure it can be cut with a grinder but without a way to hold it, it would be risky trying to. In a vise, yes, but in the field you need to secure it, or you risk injury when the cutting disk jams and flies apart. It weighs the same or less than a U-lock, and it is easier to secure to wider items like poles.

Jipe 09-09-22 10:25 AM

Bordo was sold by many Brompton dealer because it can easily be carried on frame of the Brompton between the seat tube and rear triangle. Due to this, there were a lot of Brompton stolen, even some left just a couple of minutes unattended because its very easy to crack the Bordo.

A Kryptonite Lite D-lock weight almost the same as the Bordo lite and is much more difficult to crack.

jfouellette 09-10-22 05:31 AM


Originally Posted by GTA (Post 22641082)
why didn't you bring it into the subway?

there are restrictions concerning bringing bikes during rush hour. Although the bike is a folder it s really not easy to carry long distances in the metro. You can t roll it. Very few folding bikes are designed to be carried. They are designed just to take up less space.

jfouellette 09-10-22 05:41 AM

Well, can’t live without a somewhat folding bike. Here is my acquisition to replace my stolen bike.More details later.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...bbcb9180c.jpeg

jfouellette 09-10-22 05:44 AM

This is the finished bike for daily commuting and parking at the metro.I also added a milk crate on the rear rack. Ugly…
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...0ea2b7dcf.jpeg

joey buzzard 09-10-22 08:01 AM


Originally Posted by jfouellette (Post 22642209)
Well, can’t live without a somewhat folding bike. Here is my acquisition to replace my stolen bike.More details later.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...bbcb9180c.jpeg

Well, Corgrats! That little red rocket makes my heart sing out for thee. Glad the bastard who stole your Fnhon didn't dissuade you from having a nice small wheeled machine. Since you're not using it to commute to the metro are you keeping the rear rack? Looks like it could be funner without it. It's a bit too Ferrari red like a speedy sports bike for such cumbersome accoutrements, no?

Your ugly fugly daily commuter ride looks lovely too, btw.

jfouellette 09-10-22 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by joey buzzard (Post 22642293)
Well, Corgrats! That little red rocket makes my heart sing out for thee. Glad the bastard who stole your Fnhon didn't dissuade you from having a nice small wheeled machine. Since you're not using it to commute to the metro are you keeping the rear rack? Looks like it could be funner without it. It's a bit too Ferrari red like a speedy sports bike for such cumbersome accoutrements, no?

Your ugly fugly daily commuter ride looks lovely too, btw.

I need to keep the rack for when I’m running errands. The mudguards are there so I can ride even when it s raining.

Nyah 09-10-22 09:01 PM

My folding bicycle is never left outside of my control. That's exactly the scenario which inspired me to get a folding bicycle in the first place. Being able to roll-while-folded was a top priority for me. I'm loving the 20" wheels, too, though. Most side-folders should be able to roll-while-folded. I'm surprised that you didn't work that out with your Fnhon. Sorry for the loss.


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