Originally Posted by dro.pru
(Post 16361278)
Track bags. I beleive Chicago velodrome sells one.
Maybe another one of the track specific vendors. I sew, so i planned on making my own once i find the time. |
frictional loss
Originally Posted by Racer Ex
(Post 16354567)
Big ass gears. Less RPM, less frictional loss. Interesting discussion. Big rings and cogs vs. small rings and cogs? 56/15 vs. 49/13 almost same rpm, more frictional loss with the smaller setup!? |
What chains do you guys recommend?
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I use the black/blue HKK chain, the cheapest NJS one. Bulletproof. What were you using that broke?
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Originally Posted by Baby Puke
(Post 16363657)
I use the black/blue HKK chain, the cheapest NJS one. Bulletproof. What were you using that broke?
I figured the master link had crapped itself, but I actually snapped a regular link somewhere. |
Originally Posted by Jaytron
(Post 16363720)
KMC 710SL
I figured the master link had crapped itself, but I actually snapped a regular link somewhere. |
Originally Posted by Jaytron
(Post 16363720)
KMC 710SL
I figured the master link had crapped itself, but I actually snapped a regular link somewhere. Did you ever take a pin out and push it back in or something?
Originally Posted by Baby Puke
(Post 16363970)
That's pretty crazy. How old was the chain? I have never seen a 1/8" chain break.
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Originally Posted by carleton
(Post 16356339)
bmontgomery, also consider the KMC K710 or K710-SL. These are about $20-25 and should be at local shops that cater to BMX or Fixed-Gear riders. It's burly chain made for BMX freestyle (which can be hard on chains) but is rated for like 4,000lbs of break force. It's heavier than others, but it's inexpensive, quiet, and strong.
Any difference between the K710 and the K710sl... I know that the SL is lighter... Wondering if its any real gain- or loss? compare to the KMC D101? The K710 is $14 on Amazon Prime right now- so it will al least be my off season chain... |
Originally Posted by carleton
(Post 16364201)
How?
Did you ever take a pin out and push it back in or something? Me either. |
Yup.
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Originally Posted by Quinn8it
(Post 16364446)
Carleton-
Any difference between the K710 and the K710sl... I know that the SL is lighter... Wondering if its any real gain- or loss? compare to the KMC D101? The K710 is $14 on Amazon Prime right now- so it will al least be my off season chain... |
Originally Posted by Nagrom_
(Post 16364634)
Yup.
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Originally Posted by Jaytron
(Post 16364887)
Why?
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Originally Posted by Nagrom_
(Post 16364924)
Mushroomed pins aren't to be pushed back in.
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On the subject of chains, can Pintle chains be considered for racing? Or should those be left for fixie crowd?
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Ask your small, random, track-related questions here
Any fans of inch pitch chains and cogs? Anyone use them anymore?
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i don't know why anyone would bother.
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What do you use for a jamming tool?
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oops.
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Ask your small, random, track-related questions here
Do like riding at the front or at the back in a miss and out.
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the back.
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Originally Posted by Soil_Sampler
(Post 16362727)
some trackkies are spinners, others are grinders.
Big rings and cogs vs. small rings and cogs? 56/15 vs. 49/13 almost same rpm, more frictional loss with the smaller setup!? Pretty simple physics; assuming the same wheel speed the tighter the radius the more a chain has to bend so there's more friction in the roller and side plates if they are loaded. Friction = power loss. How much loss and whether that's worth paying attention to is subjective. Thing with going to bigger rings and cogs is you add weight and some aero drag. Balancing that equation takes some time and access to things most people don't have. My quick mental mull would say bigger is a net gain. As an endurance guy who's lost a gold at Nats by one tick, it's worth paying attention to this stuff, but I also have a lot of time to work on other things. If you had 10 minutes to train, or ten minutes to calc a day, the benefit of the former would be obvious. |
Originally Posted by Jaytron
(Post 16364573)
I DID do that once. Accidentally had a pin come all the way out on me. Is that what did it?
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Originally Posted by wens
(Post 16367481)
Aren't those hollow pins? Master links exist largely because You're really likely to damage hollow pins pushing them in.
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Originally Posted by big chainring
(Post 16366400)
Do like riding at the front or at the back in a miss and out.
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