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hundo13 07-16-22 06:23 AM

Chain rubbing against cassette cog, please help
 
I have been getting intermittent little noise and clicking sensation from the pedal lately(specially in lower/heavier gear and when putting more torque).
I cleaned and inspected the bike and found out that my chain is rubbing against the second cassette cog (when it's in the first cog).
Gear Position: front - biggest(heaviest) gear / rear - smallest(heaviest) gear (it's road bike - giant SCR 2 claris 8 speed)

I tried adjusting the barrel adjuster, limit screw and the cable to move the rear derailleur to the right most side(outward) so that the chain will not touch the cog.
However, the chain is still rubbing the cog.

I have replaced the chain and sprocket cassette about 2 month ago and rode good 1,000 km without any issue.
I just started to have this issue recently.
Which area should I fix or inspect more?

Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

hundo13 07-16-22 06:25 AM

Apparently, i can't upload pictures......
Just to clarify the point of contact: top side of the chain rubs against second cassette cog.

alcjphil 07-16-22 06:44 AM

First thing I would do: Check to make sure that the cassette lockring is tight

hundo13 07-16-22 07:00 AM


Originally Posted by alcjphil (Post 22576325)
First thing I would do: Check to make sure that the cassette lockring is tight

Yes sir, it's as tight as teenager's *****.

indyfabz 07-16-22 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by hundo13 (Post 22576332)
Yes sir, it's as tight as teenager's *****.

Don’t be gross.

cxwrench 07-16-22 09:11 AM

This question should be posted in the proper section...bicycle mechanics...not GD. And show some class OP.

dedhed 07-16-22 09:24 AM

Is the right speed chain being used?

koala logs 07-16-22 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by hundo13 (Post 22576315)
I have replaced the chain and sprocket cassette about 2 month ago and rode good 1,000 km without any issue.
I just started to have this issue recently.

As a chain wears down, it will start flexing more to the sides which may cause it to start rubbing the cog next to it.

Solutions:
- Measure the chain for stretch with chain stretch tool or straight rule. If stretched beyond acceptable parameters, replace chain.
- Avoid "cross-chaining". Avoid shifting to the outermost cog of the cassette while the chain is on the smaller, inner chainring. If you have 1x drivetrain, move your chainring outside of the crank arms so it becomes more aligned to the outermost cassette cogs.
- Get better quality chain next time with less sideways flex. Lower quality chains tends to flex more to the sides and may result to slow or delayed shifting between cogs. More flex will also make chain more likely to rub against adjacent cogs.

terrymorse 07-16-22 10:31 AM

9 times out of 10, chain rub like this is caused by a bent derailleur hanger.

Check the rear derailleur hanger alignment, both axes (top-down, front-back).

Either take the bike to a decent shop, or buy an alignment gauge. They're not expensive.

cxwrench 07-16-22 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by koala logs (Post 22576467)
As a chain wears down, it will start flexing more to the sides which may cause it to start rubbing the cog next to it.

Solutions:
- Measure the chain for stretch wear with chain stretch weartool or straight rule. If stretched wornbeyond acceptable parameters, replace chain.
- Avoid "cross-chaining". Avoid shifting to the outermost cog of the cassette while the chain is on the smaller, inner chainring. If you have 1x drivetrain, move your chainring outside of the crank arms so it becomes more aligned to the outermost cassette cogs.
- Get better quality chain next time with less sideways flex. Lower quality chains tends to flex more to the sides and may result to slow or delayed shifting between cogs. More flex will also make chain more likely to rub against adjacent cogs.

FTFY. Chains don't stretch, they WEAR. No need to avoid 'cross chaining, every modern (the last 20 or so years) can do it. Small/small isn't a great idea, big/big should be no big deal. You don't want to do it all day, but using that combination is fine.

alcjphil 07-16-22 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by cxwrench (Post 22576817)
FTFY. Chains don't stretch, they WEAR. No need to avoid 'cross chaining, every modern (the last 20 or so years) can do it. Small/small isn't a great idea, big/big should be no big deal. You don't want to do it all day, but using that combination is fine.

Horror of horrors. Yesterday I was climbing a short hill using my big ring. This hill gets progressively harder towards the top. Normally, I can get there on my big ring using the third largest cog but this time I was tired and it was very hot so I committed a terrible sin, I shifted into the largest rear cog while on the big ring for the last 20 meters of the climb.
The world did not come to an end, I finished the climb and shifted back to a "safe" gear combination

terrymorse 07-16-22 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by hundo13 (Post 22576317)
Just to clarify the point of contact: top side of the chain rubs against second cassette cog.

That is extremely weird. If what you report is true, you have a really messed up chain line.

Something doesn't add up.

dedhed 07-16-22 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by alcjphil (Post 22576826)
The world did not come to an end, I finished the climb and shifted back to a "safe" gear combination

Unless you were one of those guys on here lately who refuses to size the chain to do big/big because "I never use that combination" right up until they do.

cxwrench 07-16-22 08:04 PM


Originally Posted by hundo13 (Post 22576317)
Apparently, i can't upload pictures......
Just to clarify the point of contact: top side of the chain rubs against second cassette cog.

No way that is happening.

Originally Posted by terrymorse (Post 22576835)
That is extremely weird. If what you report is true, you have a really messed up chain line.

Something doesn't add up.

^This^ That's just not possible.

koala logs 07-17-22 01:23 AM


Originally Posted by cxwrench (Post 22576817)
FTFY. Chains don't stretch, they WEAR. No need to avoid 'cross chaining, every modern (the last 20 or so years) can do it. Small/small isn't a great idea, big/big should be no big deal. You don't want to do it all day, but using that combination is fine.

I know that. Chains wear, they don't undergo elastic deformation unless you rode your bike over molten lava or you ~leased~ it to an actual gorilla that can ride a bike for 5 mins while carrying a golf club in one hand while hopping curbs but I'll call it whatever I want to. Perhaps, I should start calling it "chain gellatffhfoourinnusous"

The OP's chain is obviously not doing well or the chain itself is flexing sideways excessively. Excessive sideways flex is a symptom of cheap chains especially if the chain is new or the chain for some reason is wearing at an incredible rate (OP must be riding over diamond sand dunes while using wet lube, what an awful situation to be in)

BlazingPedals 07-19-22 01:11 PM

Gear spacing on a cassette should be sufficient to prevent the chain rubbing on the next gear - unless you're using the wrong chain. For instance, a 7-speed chain on a 9-speed cassette. Or a 5-speed chain on a 7-speed cassette.

frogman 07-21-22 03:06 AM


Originally Posted by alcjphil (Post 22576826)
Horror of horrors. Yesterday I was climbing a short hill using my big ring. This hill gets progressively harder towards the top. Normally, I can get there on my big ring using the third largest cog but this time I was tired and it was very hot so I committed a terrible sin, I shifted into the largest rear cog while on the big ring for the last 20 meters of the climb.
The world did not come to an end, I finished the climb and shifted back to a "safe" gear combination


OMG ! You now have to live with the shame ! :D


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