26 inch wheels... where to find?
Not sure this is specifically a C&V issue, but it's an older bike so ...
The question: Where can I find 26" wheels? I didn't think it would be an issue, but either they're very scarce now or I'm just missing it. The backstory (not necessarily pertinent): I recently picked up a late 80s era Peugeot US Express which the previous owner did a lot of work on. Basically turned it into what I think of as a kind of touring bike. It was marketed originally as an "ATB". The first weekend I had it I put it on the C&O towpath (flat gravel trail in MD) for a total of about 75 miles. While there were some mildly rocky sections, it was basically a gentle weekend excursion. In cleaning it up the following week, before I had ridden it again, I noticed that one of the spokes had broken at the hub and another spoke was completely loose, but not broken. Both on the rear wheel. I hadn't noticed anything on either of the two rides I did on it and didn't see anything that indicated a problem when I picked it up. When I took it to my local bike shop the mechanic told me it would be a fairly easy fix, but cautioned me that it's something I may want to keep an eye on. That is, it could be indicative of a wheel that will keep giving me this problem and may necessitate a complete replacement. I got the bike back after a few days, it looks good but I won't get a chance to really test it for another week or so. In the meantime, I thought I'd check what I could find online because this particular shop doesn't carry anything in that size. I was a little surprised that I had any issues at all to be honest. I know it's not really a standard size any more, but thought it was pervasive enough that I should be able to find *something* with a little searching. I'm sure I could find something eventually, but before I spun my wheels too much I thought I'd try my luck here. Additional notes/questions (might be pertinent):
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I’d stick with 26 inch wheel as that will give you better clearance for tires. They’re available.
these are strong wheels for example https://www.velomine.com/index.php?m...oducts_id=6145 |
Your best bet is to look for complete mtbs and harvest the wheels you need. Unfortunately that'll leave you with a bike with no wheelset...
THE CYCLE CONTINUES |
Originally Posted by bikemig
(Post 22139014)
I’d stick with 26 inch wheel as that will give you better clearance for tires. They’re available.
these are strong wheels for example https://www.velomine.com/index.php?m...oducts_id=6145 |
Originally Posted by Korina
(Post 22139062)
:( It said product not found. Likely another victim of the pandemic everything shortage.
https://www.velomine.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=122_363&products_id=5960 these are available |
If the rim isn't worn or cracked and the hub still turns smoothly, the wheel could be rebuilt with new spokes. With good stress-relieving, it ought to have a long life ahead of it. :thumb:
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I would think that new 26" wheels and components will be available for a long time to come. And you can always find plenty of used ones. 26" wheels are the standard size in most of the world, especially for daily work bikes which comprise most of the market in many countries. For example, probably 90% of bikes in Mexico use 26". I suspect the switch from 26" to 27"-700C on MTB's was mostly a ploy to get recreational riders to buy new equipment.
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I think there was someone else recently asking about 26" to 27.5".
https://www.bikeforums.net/bicycle-m...eel-sizes.html In that case the OP has disc brakes which makes the change more manageable. In your case, you have rim brakes. You may be able to find some long reach V-brakes. Otherwise your posts will be in the wrong spot. Adapter? :foo: Personally I'd just ride your bike as-is. Learn a little about truing a wheel (which can be done on the bike). You should be able to ride a 36 spoke or 32 spoke wheel with one less spoke and some quick adjustments. :foo: I just did a search on E-Bay for: 26" double wall wheels new It came up with a bunch of them. I don't know one from the other. You'll have to dig through the options you want. Rim brake is best, but it may not matter as long as you have a flatish brake surface. Quick Release or Bolt On? 130 or 135mm between dropouts? Freewheel? Upgrade to cassette? 7-speed? |
Originally Posted by bikemig
(Post 22139014)
I’d stick with 26 inch wheel as that will give you better clearance for tires. They’re available.
these are strong wheels for example https://www.velomine.com/index.php?m...oducts_id=6145
Originally Posted by Clang
(Post 22139042)
Your best bet is to look for complete mtbs and harvest the wheels you need. Unfortunately that'll leave you with a bike with no wheelset...
THE CYCLE CONTINUES
Originally Posted by kroozer
(Post 22139220)
I would think that new 26" wheels and components will be available for a long time to come. And you can always find plenty of used ones. 26" wheels are the standard size in most of the world, especially for daily work bikes which comprise most of the market in many countries. For example, probably 90% of bikes in Mexico use 26". I suspect the switch from 26" to 27"-700C on MTB's was mostly a ploy to get recreational riders to buy new equipment.
Originally Posted by CliffordK
(Post 22139257)
I think there was someone else recently asking about 26" to 27.5".
https://www.bikeforums.net/bicycle-m...eel-sizes.html In that case the OP has disc brakes which makes the change more manageable. In your case, you have rim brakes. You may be able to find some long reach V-brakes. Otherwise your posts will be in the wrong spot. Adapter? :foo: Personally I'd just ride your bike as-is. Learn a little about truing a wheel (which can be done on the bike). You should be able to ride a 36 spoke or 32 spoke wheel with one less spoke and some quick adjustments. :foo: I just did a search on E-Bay for: 26" double wall wheels new It came up with a bunch of them. I don't know one from the other. You'll have to dig through the options you want. Rim brake is best, but it may not matter as long as you have a flatish brake surface. Quick Release or Bolt On? 130 or 135mm between dropouts? Freewheel? Upgrade to cassette? 7-speed? |
Originally Posted by gurana
(Post 22139342)
The links don't seem to work for me either. Thanks for the tip though. I can certainly take a look at the site and see what I see.
Can't believe I forgot to mention this...Obviously rim brakes because it's such an old frame, but the brakes are center pull cantilever, so I guess the brake arms would have to be replaced... and i'm only assuming that such things exist. In any case, I'm actually digging the 26" wheel for the type of use I'm imagining. Maybe as an alternate commuter and easy trail stuff. |
The wheels that you have are probably good and serviceable. Don't let the bike shop worry you into buying something you don't need. Ride it and see how it goes. It sounds like it has a good hub, if the rim is straight you are in good shape. Even if it goes out of trues sometime later, have it trued and keep going. If the rim eventually fails, then look for a new wheel (save the hubs, they sound good).
By the way, the best part of the pertinent information is that you rode it 75 miles right off the bat. Keep enjoying it and don't worry. I do have one issue and that is I'd like to see a picture of your Peugeot. Please get a picture and post it. |
Originally Posted by bikemig
(Post 22139071)
https://www.velomine.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=122_363&products_id=5663
https://www.velomine.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=122_363&products_id=5960 these are available |
To cut to the chase…
New higher end 26” rim brake wheels are no longer made. NOS, or excellent, used higher end wheels go for a fortune on eBay. Cheap 26” wheels are still relatively easy to find, but may not be worth it. You first job is to measure the dropout width. It is probably 130mm or 135mm. Before you do anything, you need to know that number. Pretty easy to do. Take out the rear wheel and measure it. 130mm = 5-1/8”, 135mm = 5-5/16”. If you can’t do that you have nothing as no one can tell you, and the previous owner may have cold set it to 135mm for a better chainline. The wheelset I would look for is a Sun Rhyno Lite with Deore T610 hubs. The hubs are decent, and easy to service. You, or an LBS, need to re-pack with grease and adjust. Even though they are new a lot of new Shimano hubs are not adjusted properly. If you don’t do that you’ll be posting again in a few years. Usually they are 135mm OLD, but it is possible to take them to 130mm/132mm and that should work. Velomine used to have this wheelset, I bought one as a backup to one of our bikes or for our son. It is not light, but it seems pretty bullet proof. You can also find them on eBay, usually sold by Velomine, or other mass producers. They are getting a bit tougher to get since decent non-disc mtb hubs are no longer being made. Good luck. John |
Originally Posted by Velo Mule
(Post 22139409)
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I do have one issue and that is I'd like to see a picture of your Peugeot. Please get a picture and post it. https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...0e4b14e86a.jpg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...d38e11fbf1.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...0c7279aeef.jpg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c3a44e74e5.jpg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c90f51e360.jpg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...6e4e86c931.jpg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c0ab52a58e.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a889a4ceee.jpg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...44ff1a3232.jpg |
Looks like a fun-loving bike! If it were mine, I'd be willing to build it new wheels in a heartbeat. :love:
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Originally Posted by onyerleft
(Post 22140140)
I volunteer at a bike kitchen. We have so many 26" wheels we (almost) can't give them away. I say "almost" because transients will always take them.
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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott
(Post 22140087)
Looks like a fun-loving bike! If it were mine, I'd be willing to build it new wheels in a heartbeat. :love:
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You should probably just get the existing wheel re-tensioned by a mechanic who knows something about wheelbuilding (which, by the sound of it, is not a description of your mechanic). They're disappointingly rare, these days, but they're around.
Alternately, why not get the wheels you want built for you, or try your hand at building them yourself? Sun Rims CR-18s are widely available in 559 and bombproof; get the hubs you like, get some good spokes, and let Sheldon Brown be your guide (but then get it tensioned by somebody who knows what they're doing). |
Originally Posted by 70sSanO
(Post 22139906)
To cut to the chase…
New higher end 26” rim brake wheels are no longer made. NOS, or excellent, used higher end wheels go for a fortune on eBay. Cheap 26” wheels are still relatively easy to find, but may not be worth it. You first job is to measure the dropout width. It is probably 130mm or 135mm. Before you do anything, you need to know that number. Pretty easy to do. Take out the rear wheel and measure it. 130mm = 5-1/8”, 135mm = 5-5/16”. If you can’t do that you have nothing as no one can tell you, and the previous owner may have cold set it to 135mm for a better chainline. The wheelset I would look for is a Sun Rhyno Lite with Deore T610 hubs. The hubs are decent, and easy to service. You, or an LBS, need to re-pack with grease and adjust. Even though they are new a lot of new Shimano hubs are not adjusted properly. If you don’t do that you’ll be posting again in a few years. Usually they are 135mm OLD, but it is possible to take them to 130mm/132mm and that should work. Velomine used to have this wheelset, I bought one as a backup to one of our bikes or for our son. It is not light, but it seems pretty bullet proof. You can also find them on eBay, usually sold by Velomine, or other mass producers. They are getting a bit tougher to get since decent non-disc mtb hubs are no longer being made. Good luck. John It's hard for me to wrap my head around the fact that discs are becoming so pervasive that rim brake versions of these wheels are just not made. It's possible that I might end up looking for replacement/upgrade/backup wheels regardless of the current status... just to have them. Seems a little reactionary to me, so I'll sleep on that for now. In any case, my immediate plans for the bike are to enjoy it for the summer and fall and breaking it down in the winter to tune everything up. |
There's also Bicycle Wheel Warehouse; they make the wheels themselves. Here are the 26".
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Look for a bike co-op near you, or maybe a small shop that does lots of used/recycled business, not much removed from a co-op. I have a '90s Marin MTB with old knobbies and planned to find some center-ridge tires for it. In the dumpster of the co-op I found a set of matching 26" wheels, also 7-speed cassette with skewers, with slicks. For free. You never know what's out there until you begin looking.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...2befa2d0a5.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3bd49d8ad8.jpg |
Originally Posted by thumpism
(Post 22140573)
Look for a bike co-op near you, or maybe a small shop that does lots of used/recycled business, not much removed from a co-op. I have a '90s Marin MTB with old knobbies and planned to find some center-ridge tires for it. In the dumpster of the co-op I found a set of matching 26" wheels, also 7-speed cassette with skewers, with slicks. For free. You never know what's out there until you begin looking.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...2befa2d0a5.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3bd49d8ad8.jpg |
Originally Posted by brianinc-ville
(Post 22140387)
You should probably just get the existing wheel re-tensioned by a mechanic who knows something about wheelbuilding (which, by the sound of it, is not a description of your mechanic). They're disappointingly rare, these days, but they're around.
Alternately, why not get the wheels you want built for you, or try your hand at building them yourself? Sun Rims CR-18s are widely available in 559 and bombproof; get the hubs you like, get some good spokes, and let Sheldon Brown be your guide (but then get it tensioned by somebody who knows what they're doing). |
Originally Posted by gurana
(Post 22140659)
The thing I've kind of been avoiding stating explicitly in all of this is that I have almost no knowledge of wheel building or maintenance, which is why I took it in for a spoke fix :P I've kind of avoided that whole area of bike maintenance pretty well for more than 30 years now, though now it seems like I might not be able to avoid it so easily any more. And now that I've gotten a few good leads from this thread, now I'm thinking I *still* may need to learn to build a wheel to get exactly what I want. E.g., I found a wheel set that was perfect and priced such that I could just pick it up and not worry about it... except it is set up for schrader valves and not presta. This bike has presta and it's literally the first time I've seen presta on something like a 26" wheel and now I feel like that's super important for some reason.
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