Why every thing you read claims E-bike give a better work out ??
So I'm wondering about the barrage of online articles and claims an E-bike actually provides a better work out than conventional bikes in general ?? I've been making considerable gains riding hills and flats. E-bikes are blasting by me but no ones pedaling. how's that claim coming about? One claim is their riding longer distances??
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Because people won't ride regular bikes because it is too hard ... so an e-bike is better than nothing
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Originally Posted by jzr756
(Post 23010976)
. E-bikes are blasting by me but no ones pedaling.
I have a friend who uses an e-road bike for a 50 mile hilly commute to rack up his Z2 miles. He finds it very effective. |
To sell bikes. It's not that hard, just be less ********.
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It depends on the bike and how it is used. If the e part is used as an assist and the bike is pedaled it might be used to allow more difficult conditions, longer rides, steeper climbs, or heavier loads than the rider would otherwise manage. The one person I know who bought one used it to haul two kind to daycare on their a morning commute. They probably would not have done that without an ebike.
Others may allow folks to ride who otherwise wouldn't at all or mismatched couples to ride together. I guess the key is using it as an assist to pedaling rather than just using the throttle. I see both types of ebike riders around town here in Tallahassee. One guy I see somewhat regularly on the trails when I am riding my MTB is always spinning like mad and obviously getting a good workout. Edit to add that the "everything you read claims.." stuff in the original post is just garbage. |
Here we go again.
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Originally Posted by jzr756
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So I'm wondering about the barrage of online articles and claims an E-bike actually provides a better work out than conventional bikes in general ?? I've been making considerable gains riding hills and flats. E-bikes are blasting by me but no ones pedaling. how's that claim coming about? One claim is their riding longer distances??
Really? Never read that anywhere. Please give at least a couple of links to pages where that claim is made. |
Originally Posted by indyfabz
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Here we go again.
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Originally Posted by jzr756
(Post 23010976)
So I'm wondering about the barrage of online articles and claims an E-bike actually provides a better work out than conventional bikes in general ?? I've been making considerable gains riding hills and flats. E-bikes are blasting by me but no ones pedaling. how's that claim coming about? One claim is their riding longer distances??
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I'd have to know what "better" means in this context. But, I have never heard anyone say that. Not even my friends who have them.
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I don't know about better but they all allow the assist level to be turned up or down, or even off. Like said above the boost gives you route options, both hills and traffic, that you may not make on a human powered bike. You can definitely get a work out on them.
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Originally Posted by jzr756
(Post 23010976)
So I'm wondering about the barrage of online articles and claims an E-bike actually provides a better work out than conventional bikes in general ?? I've been making considerable gains riding hills and flats. E-bikes are blasting by me but no ones pedaling. how's that claim coming about? One claim is their riding longer distances??
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Originally Posted by Lombard
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If it's on the internet, it must be true. :rolleyes:
https://storybicycles.com/blogs/ebik...20participants. |
if you pedal with a certain amount of force and at a certain speed, it requires a specific amount of power. that’s how much work you’re doing. it doesn’t matter if the bike also has a motor, is made of carbon fiber, or bamboo, or painted red or black.
the situation in which an e-bike is a better work out is when it adds enough power to that amount of power you’re generating to make it possible or fun to do something that otherwise you couldn’t or wouldn’t do. for example, a relatively unfit or weak person lives in a very hilly area. it’s impractical for them to go on a two hour ride up and down steep hills. their level of fitness would hardly get them up one hill, even with granny gearing, so they do zero cycling, or only for whatever very short distances have no hills. on an e-bike, they can pedal with a sustainable amount of effort for them and ride for hours. however, the more likely case is that someone wants to ride at around 15-20mph for a couple hours. in that case, the e-bike (as long as the motor is on) requires less power from the human rider, and the total “workout” will be significantly less than a regular bike. |
I saw a guy get a really good workout getting his and his significant other's bikes out of the back of their pickup...
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Originally Posted by PeteHski
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Originally Posted by wheelreason
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I saw a guy get a really good workout getting his and his significant other's bikes out of the back of their pickup...
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People are also selling the trend that fat is actually fit/better health.
Easy to sell products that offer lazy/easy fitness solutions… |
Originally Posted by Paul Barnard
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There they go again. I won't be joining them.
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I am trying so hard to be "NOT anti e-bike". Is there a word for that? Maybe if they just went ahead and called them Motorcycles I would be more comfortable with them...
I have a lot of time one both Motorcycles and Bicycles and it's really hard to decide which one I have had more fun with. I do know on which type I have had the best workouts with though! |
Unless someone is forcing me off the trail or something, why should I care what people ride?
If it keeps people out of cars, and there are fewer cars on the road, that is a Good Thing, ipso facto. My wife got a class 1 e-roadbike a couple of years ago, due to hip and knee issues. It helps her a lot, and inspired her to get a nice non-assist titanium road bike. I recently built up an e-bike conversion. I haven't really used it yet, apart from test rides, but I set it up in such a way (30T front sprocket) that I doubt I am going to be blasting past anyone. There's a big difference between the above examples and Sur Rons ripping up the trails, complete with their vestigial pedals. A little bit of nuance here could help. |
One problem is "e-bike" refers to everything from a regular bike with light pedal assistance to essentially an electric motorcycle. The former I can definitely see for folks who can no longer put out the effort they used to but still want to ride - more power to 'em, you might say. But the latter? I feel like they're taking advantage of bicycle infrastructure. And the people on them are not getting any exercise at all.
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I realize I'm in the minority here, but I recently bought a Trek Domane+. It is a pedal assist ebike. There is no throttle to turn. There are 3 power modes, selectable with little buttons near the shifters. Without peddling, it gives you nothing. To reach it's 28 mph assist cap, you've still got to be putting out roughly 250 watts on a flat. On the climbs, it'll reduce your HR by 10 beats or so when pushing it. I get great workouts. On my recovery rides, I can do 15mph while staying in zone 1 and 2, makes them a lot more fun and I don't have to have a flat course to do it.
A little background: I raced in my 20's and 30's. Got burned out and shelved the bike after crashes, team politics, etc. 20 years later, I decided to get back in shape. Back in the day, I'd have used group rides to do that, but I'm heavier and older now, so that really wasn't an option for me. At least not without a good 5 or 6 month solo training program and crash diet to prepare. So I got the ebike. I was able to do some B and C level group rides immediately, although I had to push pretty hard to keep up. That was about 3 months ago. Now, with the help of the ebike, I'm able to keep up with the A group. I have to really push hard though, often spending over an hour in zone 4 or 5 to keep up every ride. And even then I get dropped every now and then. I burn 1200 - 1400 calories each ride according to my Garmin. In that 3 months, I've lost 11 lbs and my resting heart rate has dropped almost 20 BPM. And I'm having a blast doing it. I'd still like to drop another 10 LBS and raise my FTP and V02 max. On my current trajectory, that should not be a problem. So say what you will about ebikes, but for me, they have been a game changer. And yes, I'm getting a better workout because if I didn't have one, there is no way I'd be able to be out there. |
Originally Posted by genejockey
(Post 23011229)
One problem is "e-bike" refers to everything from a regular bike with light pedal assistance to essentially an electric motorcycle. The former I can definitely see for folks who can no longer put out the effort they used to but still want to ride - more power to 'em, you might say. But the latter? I feel like they're taking advantage of bicycle infrastructure. And the people on them are not getting any exercise at all.
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Some people wear themselves out pedaling and tire so quickly they don't get much cardiovascular/aerobic benefit from cycling because they only do short rides or don't ride at all. E-bikes help those people some to let them ride longer and get more benefit.
It's not muscling yourself over the hills or at high speed that makes for better aerobic exercise, it's how long you can move your legs up and down. |
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