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wens 08-13-15 07:05 AM

What do people put on aerobars/pursuit bars on the track? Normal bar tape? Skateboard tape? Plasti-dip?

Dalai 08-13-15 07:15 AM

Skateboard deck tape.

Velocirapture 08-13-15 03:28 PM

normal bar tape also works. some people leave them untaped, too

gtrob 08-13-15 04:38 PM

Thin bar tape for me. I could probably live without any on the skis though

Dalai 08-13-15 06:15 PM

I pursuit gloveless so find grip tape is good after racing without tape for years. Grip tape is lower profile than regular bar tape...

wens 08-13-15 06:27 PM

After trying totally tapeless on a trainer, there's no way that's an option for the base bar. Extensions, maybe, but if I'm getting deck tape anyhow I'll probably put a strip on the back side of either.

gycho77 08-16-15 09:41 PM

Do you think MKS custom Nuevo + toe cage + strap and cleat(Bicycle Shoe Cleats for Toeclip Pedals $29.95 at Yellow Jersey) for clip pedal set up is horrible for track races. I really like MKS pedals, they are so~~~ smooth. Should I use clipless pedal, if I'm comfortable with my clio pedal?

queerpunk 08-17-15 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by gycho77 (Post 18081560)
Do you think MKS custom Nuevo + toe cage + strap and cleat(Bicycle Shoe Cleats for Toeclip Pedals $29.95 at Yellow Jersey) for clip pedal set up is horrible for track races. I really like MKS pedals, they are so~~~ smooth. Should I use clipless pedal, if I'm comfortable with my clio pedal?

If you are only using sneakers with your MKS pedals, then you are at a serious performance disadvantage. Clipless pedals are far superior.

If you are using cycling shoes with slotted cleats that go into your MKS pedals, then, I don't know, there's not much of a performance disadvantage compared to clipless pedals, but I don't know why you'd want to use them except to feel retro.

gycho77 08-17-15 07:55 AM

Of course I'm using cycling shoes. I'm using this pedal, because I wanted secure strap. Also it was much more cheaper than clipless pedal. I got this pedal for only 50bucks on ebay.

carleton 08-17-15 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by gycho77 (Post 18082114)
Of course I'm using cycling shoes. I'm using this pedal, because I wanted secure strap. Also it was much more cheaper than clipless pedal. I got this pedal for only 50bucks on ebay.

They are inexpensive for a reason.

Pass on them and get standard Shimano, LOOK, or Speedplay clipless pedals. You can get Shimano pedals for cheap or pay more for super nice bearings. Look for older SPD-SL pedals that don't have carbon body, like the Dura Ace PD7810 or the Ultegra variant if you want nice bearings. But the base model stuff is very good, too.

When you start getting picky about having "nice bearings", then you'll need to reach for your big wallet :D

gycho77 08-17-15 10:30 AM

Thank you
I have a shimano pd-r600 in my house.
But i think mks is much more smoother.
But I will try clipless pedal.
Thanks for your advice

carleton 08-17-15 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by gycho77 (Post 18082547)
Thank you
I have a shimano pd-r600 in my house.
But i think mks is much more smoother.
But I will try clipless pedal.
Thanks for your advice

Here's the thing, people don't use them for a reason. Yes, Japanese Keirin racers use them...but only because they have to. Old style toe clip pedals are a pain in the arse to use compared to modern clipless.

There are a few guys that use them (like Babypuke here on BF (a Japanese Keirin student/racer)). But, 99.999% of other trackies do not. When in doubt, do with 99.999% of everyone is doing :D

carleton 08-17-15 10:47 AM

Also, don't get hung up on smoothness. Seriously.

Yeah, you may be able to feel a difference when you spin the spindle with your fingers. But, you won't feel a difference in your feet.

I'm The Princess and the Pea when it comes to bike feel and I've never had issues with various pedals...and I've tried LOTS of them, including the coveted Shimano Dura Ace PD-7400

http://velobase.com/CompImages/Pedal...A102100BA.jpeg

I used them for a week and went back to clipless pedals.

wens 08-17-15 11:18 AM

I mean, if you already have stuff and it works well enough to be safe, run what you brung. I wouldn't put more money than you already have into them.

carleton 08-17-15 05:37 PM

Who is Jair Tjon En Fa?

Seriously.

Talk about coming out of nowhere.

New Zealanders win to say goodbye in T-town - The Morning Call

Hida Yanra 08-18-15 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by carleton (Post 18084043)

from the department of "trispokes are too flexy for sprinters to ride".....:p

gtrob 08-18-15 03:35 PM

I had never even heard of the country before seeing him at PanAm last month (qualified 7th). Amazing he even got into the sport.

dunderhi 08-18-15 10:47 PM


Originally Posted by carleton (Post 18084043)
Who is Jair Tjon En Fa?

Seriously.

Talk about coming out of nowhere.

New Zealanders win to say goodbye in T-town - The Morning Call

He's a seriously fast sprinter, that's who. ;)

BTW, I was there Friday afternoon and evening watching the sprint competition. Lot's of action to watch. The Kiwi's have done well and have been around most of the Summer, but I'm surprised they are leaving right before the last UCI race night of the season.

Jared. 08-19-15 09:46 AM

This past LA Gran Prix was live streamed, and I saw him race in that. I believe he came in second in that comp, can't easily find results. Very fast.

700wheel 08-21-15 11:32 AM

I'm looking for info on the 2015 Pan Am Masters track championships to be held in Puerto Rico this year.

700wheel 08-23-15 04:58 PM

At each stage finish of he US Pro Challenge stage race this week the Sierra Nevada Brewing Company had a roller race competition (best time each day for 250m). Although the bike set up was terrible (no seat height adjustment, freewheel, low gear, platform peddles) the computer software looked great. Where can I buy such a set-up (software and associated speed measurement equipment)?

taras0000 08-23-15 05:39 PM

Any photos of the set up?

gycho77 08-23-15 06:00 PM

Custom geometry steel or titanium bike vs. mid-range carbon bike
I think fitting is more important than weight.
Am I correct?

Also are titanium frames too flexible for track races?
I found one Russian titanium bike company called Triton
They make amazing bikes without asking for a lot of money.

Also if I choose to get a custom bike, is it better to meet the frame builder and talk about geometry?

Dalai 08-23-15 06:37 PM


Originally Posted by 700wheel (Post 18102601)
At each stage finish of he US Pro Challenge stage race this week the Sierra Nevada Brewing Company had a roller race competition (best time each day for 250m). Although the bike set up was terrible (no seat height adjustment, freewheel, low gear, platform peddles) the computer software looked great. Where can I buy such a set-up (software and associated speed measurement equipment)?

Without at least some photos no idea! Try contacting the race organisers and the Sierra Nevada Brewing Company?

carleton 08-23-15 08:55 PM


Originally Posted by gycho77 (Post 18102740)
Custom geometry steel or titanium bike vs. mid-range carbon bike
I think fitting is more important than weight.
Am I correct?

Also are titanium frames too flexible for track races?
I found one Russian titanium bike company called Triton
They make amazing bikes without asking for a lot of money.

Also if I choose to get a custom bike, is it better to meet the frame builder and talk about geometry?

It depends.

You know as well as I do that this is not a "small" track question :D

It also depends on if you want a real answer to use as input for your decision or if you just want us to confirm what you've already decided to do.


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