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rhm 10-28-10 06:09 AM


Originally Posted by jedge76 (Post 11669410)
What happens is that I go to shift from say 2nd to 1st, it just won't go. I push on the shifter and it won't go even w/ a little extra push than normal. ...

Does this happen while you're riding, or while stopped? I've experienced it many times while stopped, but not while pedaling, coasting or backpedaling .

Fir 10-28-10 09:41 AM

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Hi guys

Just thought I'd put this snap of my wife's commuter which I borrowed for Tuesday's run. It appears to be an 80's Sports but with a "Free Spirit" label because it has identical everything to my 80's "Raleigh Sports" right down to the paint colour and scheme. Both claim to be "made in Canuckistan" so perhaps they don't fit this thread's stringent criteria... But both have AWs. I put the 24t cog on the back but it's still simply too high geared for 2-4" [+drifts] of Oktober cement. I wonder if reefing on the pedals is what bends the seat tube on Ladies frames? LBS says there are no bigger cogs, so I'm tempted to seek a smaller chainring. It sure would be nice to have carbide studs in a 26x1&3/8. But it is amazing how well you can do with virtually treadless tyres. I realized that the way to mount a waggon hitch on one of these things is to ignore the axle and bolt up to the frame there.

We both like this stem. It's the tallest LBS offers 10" up and 4" out and really takes pressure off if you have any hand or wrist troubles. I find it quiet pleasant to sit vertical too.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=175850

FlatTop 10-28-10 12:47 PM

That is an impressive basket on the rear rack, Fir.

Fir 10-28-10 01:37 PM

Thanx - discovered them all lonely on the shelf at the Loblaws. They're quite light as there's no steel frame - straight willow. I bought 4 intending to do panniers front and rear on my main bike, but now my bike collection has mushroomed and there's 4 bikes each with one on the back, just poked 4 zipstrips through their weave and done. They sure are handy this time of year when piles of clothes are coming off and on all the time :-) And they don't put much cargo space in back of these waggons.

choteau 10-28-10 10:31 PM

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...r/P1040952.jpg
My 50's? Phillips Roadster (took two 22" frames and built a 25", no date code on AW, square window indicator nut, 180mm cranks ,and a Flying pigeon chaincase) Tim ps rides smoothly and straight as an arrow "no hands"

noglider 10-28-10 10:37 PM

Fir, it's always great to hear from you. And I've only been to Canada thrice, and once, I was at Loblaw's so I know what it is.

choteau, did you seriously braze a frame together from two frames?

choteau 10-29-10 08:04 AM

Yes, it's 2n1. One was a frame set with chainring, other was a rust bucket that had been in a bamboo patch for years. Used a inner sleeve to join seatposts and steertubes, and spliced the seat stays to length. I did the measuring and cutting, a friend TIG welded them. The headtube was replaced (braized in) with a longer piece of Raleigh tubing. Sandblasted and rattle canned black. The chaincase and rims are Chinese, I reused both the AW and the Phillips front hubs. Bottom bracket has a threaded oiler, as do both hubs. Most of the rod brake bits are original, a few are chinese. By the way, it seems Flying Pigeon (Mao's peoples bicycle) is a copy of a Phillips, NOT a Raleigh. I looked for a big frame Roadster for a couple of years out here in Oregon with no luck .Finding and shipping one from back east was $$$. I've got around $400 in it and I'm enjoying riding it, except in the wet. In process of building a winter wheelset with drum brakes, rod brake linkage activated of course. Tim ps A year ago when I asked about making the frame taller, most of the responses were polite, a few were rude, some were helpful.

mkeller234 10-29-10 11:14 PM

Inspired by the recent Raleigh lamp thread I found a NOS one on ebay.uk. Thanks to RHM for the suggestion of searching "Pifco". It takes an obsolete battery so I had to rig my own battery pack from instructions I found online. It works!

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4056/...aa2f405b_z.jpghttp://farm5.static.flickr.com/4004/...9fd39458_z.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1065/...e3514e18_z.jpghttp://farm5.static.flickr.com/4055/...1c5c65d6_z.jpg

snarkypup 10-29-10 11:40 PM

[QUOTE=mkeller234;11704827]Inspired by the recent Raleigh lamp thread I found a NOS one on ebay.uk. Thanks to RHM for the suggestion of searching "Pifco". It takes an obsolete battery so I had to rig my own battery pack from instructions I found online. It works!

Truly marvelous! Good looking, and it looks like it's relatively bright.

Sixty Fiver 10-29-10 11:45 PM


Originally Posted by Fir (Post 11694798)
Hi guys

Hi back !

We missed ya.

gbalke 10-30-10 06:13 AM

[QUOTE=mkeller234;11704827]Inspired by the recent Raleigh lamp thread I found a NOS one on ebay.uk. Thanks to RHM for the suggestion of searching "Pifco". It takes an obsolete battery so I had to rig my own battery pack from instructions I found online. It works![quote]

Great pictures Matt, now tell us more about this battery pack you built!

mkeller234 10-30-10 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by gbalke (Post 11705235)
Great pictures Matt, now tell us more about this battery pack you built!

The directions were written by a guy named Paul Costin. It's nothing more than a 2c battery holder, m5 phillips bolt, two nuts, plastic cap and a spade. It took me less than an hour to assemble.

He has a website with instructions and pictures. There is also a link to download a word document with bigger pictures. Here is his site: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/catfood...pifcolamp.html

mickey85 10-31-10 06:35 AM

So, it's not DIRECTLY English 3 speed related, but it does have Phillips content...I started a blog about my journeys hither and yon in Northern Indiana (or wherever the road might take me...Lake Pepin?).

lifeona3speed.blogspot.com

jedge76 10-31-10 11:07 PM


Originally Posted by mickey85 (Post 11709025)
So, it's not DIRECTLY English 3 speed related, but it does have Phillips content...I started a blog about my journeys hither and yon in Northern Indiana (or wherever the road might take me...Lake Pepin?).

lifeona3speed.blogspot.com

I enjoyed this read. I was thinking of doing the exact same thing, you beat me to it! I'll keep this in my favorites as I look forward to the next ride. Great stuff!

Oh, and I was born in W. Lafayette, IN, so the terrain is familiar. I can't believe all the leaves you have on the ground already...most of our trees haven't even turned colors yet!

TuckamoreDew 11-11-10 07:43 PM

You have seen pictures of this bike (1965 CCM Continental) before but here are a couple of me enjoying it as its new owner. This is my first 3-speed and I like it a lot.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4087/...57b75051d0.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1336/...d6780016f4.jpg

banjo_mole 11-13-10 09:42 PM


Originally Posted by AL NZ (Post 11669850)
A 4-day holiday weekend here in NZ, spring is sprung, so I did a little spring maintenance on my 4 speed Raleigh, plus swapped a brown B66 for a black Flyer Special on my old BSA, and it looks much better. Goes better, too, with the narrow saddle.

Here are the pics. They could have gone in the 'What are you wrenching?' or 'White tyres' threads, but this is the thread that never dies ..

The Raleigh had decaying but nice Michelins on it, so I bought some Cheng Shins. I quite like the grey, but the quality is not special. They don't quite fit right, so both front and rear have a bit of a flat spot because I don't think the inner diameter is quite right for the stainless Dunlop rims. I deflated and fettled and re-inflated but I cannot eliminate the problem.

They will work. Barely. It takes some effort, but a tire bead seating tool, a good pump, a little Windex, and good, narrow rim strips all help.

I had to deal with that issue for a while with some Schwinn S-6 Chengies.

Sixty Fiver 11-13-10 09:51 PM


Originally Posted by TuckamoreDew (Post 11774261)
You have seen pictures of this bike (1965 CCM Continental) before but here are a couple of me enjoying it as its new owner. This is my first 3-speed and I like it a lot.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4087/...57b75051d0.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1336/...d6780016f4.jpg

Looking good there... :)

Threespeeder 11-16-10 06:17 PM

Sports fenders
 

Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver (Post 10437087)
Kurt - When it's a little nicer I will put the girls together for a side by side shot but this is as close as they will get for now.

The Lenton is an inch taller at the head tube than the Sports but is still riding on it's EA1 wheels which puts both bikes at nearly identical standover heights and the room in the bikepit is almost the same.

The geometry is very similar if not identical... both bikes have relatively short rear stays as they were built for a smaller wheel.

http://www.ravingbikefiend.com/bikepics/reg2009a.JPG

http://www.ravingbikefiend.com/bikep...ighsports5.JPG

I am pretty sure the straight gauge Sports weighs less than the Lenton which is a 531 frame... before I added the fenders and swapped out the bars and brakes it was 26 pounds on the scale from the loo.

The Lenton's did not come with the lovely heron chain wheel but rather have a swappable 1/8 track chain ring on a 3 bolt spider as these were used for everything to commuting to time trials and club racing. The Lenton could have also been purchased as a three speed for a few pounds more.

The Bluemel fenders fit wonderfully on the Sports and there is still good clearance between them and the 700:32 tyres which are some run of the mill Duro Proteks... they have a vintage look and I have had good success with these tyres.

The Lenton uses the same fenders and you can see how much extra clearance there is in the frame.

I am not sure how these new parts would fit into a modern Sports as the geometry on the '54 might be just a little different, I do know that you cannot use the stock steel fenders in a 700c conversion.

And of course, because I built a fair weather and rain bike... it is now snowing.

Nice Sports! Interesting post on the Bleumel fenders. I have a 73 Sports and need to replace the original fenders since the rear fender is bent so that the stays keep rubbing against the Schwalbe cream tyres. Also, from what you wrote, it sounds like I might also be able to replace the stock wheels with 700cc wheels? Thanks!

Sixty Fiver 11-16-10 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by Threespeeder (Post 11797791)
Nice Sports! Interesting post on the Bleumel fenders. I have a 73 Sports and need to replace the original fenders since the rear fender is bent so that the stays keep rubbing against the Schwalbe cream tyres. Also, from what you wrote, it sounds like I might also be able to replace the stock wheels with 700cc wheels? Thanks!

The 700's are a pretty close fit but they are 32's and I still have room for fenders.

It does change the handling a little in that it feels quicker (than a Sports) but is by no means twitchy.

It looks like winter is upon us and these old folks will soon have to stay inside for a season... I will let the younger kids play in the snow.

Threespeeder 11-16-10 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver (Post 10440136)
*cough*

These are both fixed gear conversions... the Twenty was a 3 speed originally and will be a 3 speed again albeit with an SA SX3 fixed gear hub.

http://www.ravingbikefiend.com/bikepics/confetti1a.jpg
1973 Raleigh Gran Sport

http://www.ravingbikefiend.com/bikep...rest09new4.JPG
1973 Phillip's Twenty

My daughters ride English 3 speeds... they use these for all their about town riding and commuting since they are properly fendered and have chain guards.

http://www.ravingbikefiend.com/bikep...rlcommute3.jpg
1980 Raleigh Saffron

http://www.ravingbikefiend.com/bikep...rlcommute4.jpg
1973 Raleigh Fireball custom.

And the fair and beautiful one has this as her "B" bike... her A bike is a modern version with an 8 speed IGH.

http://www.ravingbikefiend.com/bikep...4R2009new1.jpg
1974 Raleigh Twenty

Nice looking 20! I have been bidding on Raleigh 20s on Ebay to no avail! I keep looking for them (or a Superbe or better yet a loop frame Tourist!) at second hand shops and yard sales in the area. As I am sure you realize this has not been too productive! Here in The S.E corner of WA state it is a rarity and also a very exciting moment to view a genuine English 3 speed on the road. Most are sad looking cookie cutter Mtn bikes and road bikes around here.Anyway I will continue with my quest while thoroughly enjoying this forum!:thumb:

Threespeeder 11-17-10 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by Veloria (Post 10799151)
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1008/...b81f2742e9.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1170/...ee609fd9bd.jpg

My husband and I ride a pair of DL-1s; mine a 1973 and his a 1972. Best bikes ever.

Wow, real beaut's! I have a 73 Sports with the same Delta creams and they really dress the old guy up but your DL 1s take the cake! I am looking for a DL-1 here in WA state, E. side and it is like the search for the Holy Grail! Though I am a male type I think the loop frame is practical and beautiful. Last time I rode a DL-1 was in the 50s at my grandparents in Watford N of London. I think it was a loop frame thus as a ten year old I was able to ride on a full size bike. Hmm I wonder if that bike is still extant?!

criscoshoes 11-17-10 10:15 AM

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My 1962 Raleigh Gran Sport that I recently converted to 3 speed. Hi-ten frame, running a Sturmey Archer SRF3 and modern components.

Originally, a racing bike: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/retroral...ran-sport.html. Rides nicely as a around-the-town bicycle!

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=179267http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=179268

Roll-Monroe-Co 11-17-10 12:12 PM

In the womb, preparing for rebirth...
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1428/...864fa66a_b.jpg

nlerner 11-17-10 01:16 PM

That rubber mallet is key to proper development, too, I'll bet!

Neal

Roll-Monroe-Co 11-17-10 02:18 PM

Whack 'em, I say.

wrk101 11-17-10 03:06 PM

Just finished with the ladies Triumph I picked up a couple of days ago. I think the bike is a 1976 +/-.


I really liked how it turned out. I have to get it on C/L quick before the wife gets home. If she sees it, its going into the keeper fleet.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4113/...ecffd48c_b.jpg

Roll-Monroe-Co 11-17-10 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by wrk101 (Post 11802586)
Just finished with the ladies Triumph I picked up a couple of days ago. I think the bike is a 1976 +/-.


I really liked how it turned out. I have to get it on C/L quick before the wife gets home. If she sees it, its going into the keeper fleet.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4113/...ecffd48c_b.jpg

Wow. That's identical in almost every way to my Phillips, Tweaky:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4125/...1b0d53e1_b.jpg

Edit: Okay, in several ways.

gna 11-17-10 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by wrk101 (Post 11802586)
Just finished with the ladies Triumph I picked up a couple of days ago. I think the bike is a 1976 +/-.


I really liked how it turned out. I have to get it on C/L quick before the wife gets home. If she sees it, its going into the keeper fleet.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4113/...ecffd48c_b.jpg

Very nice.

x136 11-17-10 04:17 PM

Oh, looky what came in the mail to-day.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...s/IMG_7119.jpg

It'll be 38 years old next month, but it just escaped from the box.

nick22 11-21-10 07:44 PM

Hercules (Birmingham made)
 
Any suggestions for fenders to finish this project would be appreciated. The Hercules-made hub is an interesting feature of this bike.

http://s726.photobucket.com/albums/w...Ddriveside.jpg

thanks, nick


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