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clubman 02-04-16 05:44 PM


Originally Posted by shadaboot28 (Post 18512547)
Which pathracer?

Pretty sure Pathfinder was the word he wanted.


Originally Posted by shadaboot28 (Post 18512561)
Actually I think the cranks are made by Raleigh Industries. These cranks were also used on the Raleigh Lenton and the Humber clipper which are all basically the exact same bike with a different badge and forks.

Looks correct to me.
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/retroral...ton-sports.jpg

CuttersRidge 02-04-16 06:12 PM

Excellent condition, even the decals it looks like, beautiful, I hope I can put a Craig's list ad in because for posterity these are nice and won't be sold probably soon at this price.
http://images.craigslist.org/00909_e...3T_600x450.jpg

https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/c...433967045.html

shadaboot28 02-04-16 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by 3speedslow (Post 18512441)
I certainly won't find anything like that in a barn around here!^^.

Thanks for the show. Still digging the Rudge.

How did the other Pathracer clean up?

It cleaned up really well actually and is in great condition. I have the parts from it for sale on ebay now:

uk-vintage-cycles | eBay

http://i1077.photobucket.com/albums/...7/IMG_2142.jpg

http://i1077.photobucket.com/albums/...7/IMG_2138.jpg

http://i1077.photobucket.com/albums/...7/IMG_2141.jpg

http://i1077.photobucket.com/albums/...7/IMG_2136.jpg

http://i1077.photobucket.com/albums/...7/IMG_2140.jpg

http://i1077.photobucket.com/albums/...7/IMG_2137.jpg

CuttersRidge 02-04-16 06:43 PM

Pathfinder, wow, I've heard of those.

markk900 02-04-16 06:48 PM

My 1949 Humber has cranks stamped (lightly) RI...but my wife's 1956 standard (no Raleigh content) has cranks stamped with the "N" on the back of the arm. I was led to believe those were Nicklin. I agree they are the correct type for your bike, just wondered if for the high end model they brought in "outside" cranks.

shadaboot28 02-05-16 04:05 AM


Originally Posted by markk900 (Post 18512731)
My 1949 Humber has cranks stamped (lightly) RI...but my wife's 1956 standard (no Raleigh content) has cranks stamped with the "N" on the back of the arm. I was led to believe those were Nicklin. I agree they are the correct type for your bike, just wondered if for the high end model they brought in "outside" cranks.

Yes I think you might be right as mine have a "N" stamped on them too.

Velognome 02-05-16 05:10 AM

This is like attending a funeral

3speedslow 02-05-16 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by shadaboot28 (Post 18512547)
Which pathracer?

Yes, meant Pathfinder. Looks like a great project for someone on your side of the pond.

arex 02-05-16 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by Velognome (Post 18513430)
This is like attending a funeral

How so?

gster 02-05-16 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by CuttersRidge (Post 18512645)
Excellent condition, even the decals it looks like, beautiful, I hope I can put a Craig's list ad in because for posterity these are nice and won't be sold probably soon at this price.
http://images.craigslist.org/00909_e...3T_600x450.jpg

https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/c...433967045.html

Bikes are great.
Price is not.

adventurepdx 02-05-16 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by CuttersRidge (Post 18512645)
Excellent condition, even the decals it looks like, beautiful, I hope I can put a Craig's list ad in because for posterity these are nice and won't be sold probably soon at this price.
https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/c...433967045.html

Or sold...ever at that price! At $5000 for the pair :eek: I feel you'll be seeing those bikes on CL for a long, long, long time.

Now drop a zero, and the price is more reasonable.

What gets me with all these "pie in the sky" priced CL or eBay ads is there's always some caveat, some catch, something the seller didn't do. Take a look, here's the ad body:

"Talk about getting your hands on a great set of 3 speed his and hers bikes!! This Vintage English made Roadster set is one lucky find. I was given these to sell from my grandparents just before they passed away. They purchased these amazing bikes when the lived in England in the late 60s to early 70s. When they moved back to the states the bikes did not get much use and were stored. I took them and cleaned them up( I haven't been able to test the Head light or tail light) but everything on these bikes are original and everything else is in working order! Some awesome features on the bikes are chrome head lights, wheel powered tail lights, air pump, and storage rack with spring clip."

Okay, the seller's got the story down about grandparents, they call it "museum quality" in the header of the ad. But for five grand, I'd want to know if the lights actually work, esp. since the seller is using it as a selling feature!

Narhay 02-05-16 12:43 PM

I mean...those Raleigh Sports are nice but I see paint chips. For $2500 each and 'muesem' quality I'd expect it to still be bubble wrapped.

noglider 02-05-16 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by Velognome (Post 18513430)
This is like attending a funeral

I agree. :(

Bicyclz 02-05-16 01:33 PM

[QUOTE=shadaboot28;18511333]Heres my 1952 Rudge Pathfinder in almost NEW condition. It's actually a 4 speed but I thought I show it anyway.

http://i1077.photobucket.com/albums/...7/IMG_2114.jpg

How cool!
It's the sister to my Humber Clipper, shown earlier in this thread.
I just love the guards, & being so delicate it is amazing how they survived.
Has yours got the transfers on the back still?

Mines a little later (1955) with alloy bars.
Funeral or not, it's the way of the world methinks.

IronDan 02-05-16 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by shadaboot28 (Post 18512691)
It cleaned up really well actually and is in great condition. I have the parts from it for sale on ebay now:

uk-vintage-cycles | eBay

Just looked at your eBay listings and realised your not too far from me, that could be handy!

jamesj 02-05-16 03:41 PM

Wow, this thread just turned super sad.

Bicyclz 02-05-16 03:47 PM

Well, it's sellers & buyers that make the world go around.
Ain't it?
I'd have shed fulls if I didn't sell one or two now & again.

Slash5 02-05-16 03:50 PM

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Going to a shop tomorrow to buy another bike and going to take a look at this while I'm there.
Anyone have an opinion at what it is? Supposed to have a 1951 rear hub.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=502831

IronDan 02-05-16 04:04 PM

I got hold of a de-ruster chemical from work and have started to use it to clean up the rusty front rim on my Raleigh transit, I need a bigger bucket though as I can only do a small section at a time.

Before and after

http://i.pictr.com/vcpz4xjirt.jpg

http://i.pictr.com/sw2krrvwdt.jpg

nlerner 02-05-16 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by Slash5 (Post 18514854)
Going to a shop tomorrow to buy another bike and going to take a look at this while I'm there.
Anyone have an opinion at what it is? Supposed to have a 1951 rear hub.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=502831

Early 50s Raleigh Lenton Sports. Those Bluemels no-weight alloy mudguards are worth serious coin if in good shape.

shadaboot28 02-05-16 08:29 PM


Originally Posted by adventurepdx (Post 18514391)
Or sold...ever at that price! At $5000 for the pair :eek: I feel you'll be seeing those bikes on CL for a long, long, long time.

Now drop a zero, and the price is more reasonable.

What gets me with all these "pie in the sky" priced CL or eBay ads is there's always some caveat, some catch, something the seller didn't do. Take a look, here's the ad body:

"Talk about getting your hands on a great set of 3 speed his and hers bikes!! This Vintage English made Roadster set is one lucky find. I was given these to sell from my grandparents just before they passed away. They purchased these amazing bikes when the lived in England in the late 60s to early 70s. When they moved back to the states the bikes did not get much use and were stored. I took them and cleaned them up( I haven't been able to test the Head light or tail light) but everything on these bikes are original and everything else is in working order! Some awesome features on the bikes are chrome head lights, wheel powered tail lights, air pump, and storage rack with spring clip."

Okay, the seller's got the story down about grandparents, they call it "museum quality" in the header of the ad. But for five grand, I'd want to know if the lights actually work, esp. since the seller is using it as a selling feature!

I agree, I look on eBay every day to find vintage bikes. I've been buying and selling them for years. It makes me laugh when people put these ridiculous prices on bikes that are really not worth that much at all. The two bikes your referring to are nice, but they are not rare and not even that old. To try charge $5000 is hilarious. As you mentioned $500 would be more realistic but even that is pushing it.

shadaboot28 02-05-16 08:33 PM

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[QUOTE=Bicyclz;18514553]

Originally Posted by shadaboot28 (Post 18511333)
Heres my 1952 Rudge Pathfinder in almost NEW condition. It's actually a 4 speed but I thought I show it anyway.

http://i1077.photobucket.com/albums/...7/IMG_2114.jpg

How cool!
It's the sister to my Humber Clipper, shown earlier in this thread.
I just love the guards, & being so delicate it is amazing how they survived.
Has yours got the transfers on the back still?

Mines a little later (1955) with alloy bars.
Funeral or not, it's the way of the world methinks.

Yes it is amazing how the mudguards have survived! Mine are mint with no cracks or damages at all!

And I've seen your clipper and I love it! I really want one for myself but they are the rarest ones to find out of all the brother/sister bikes....

And here's a picture of the transfer.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=502917http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=502918

shadaboot28 02-05-16 08:35 PM


Originally Posted by Slash5 (Post 18514854)
Going to a shop tomorrow to buy another bike and going to take a look at this while I'm there.
Anyone have an opinion at what it is? Supposed to have a 1951 rear hub.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=502831

Its a 1950's Raleigh Lenton. If you don't end up buying it then I would be interested in it.

adventurepdx 02-05-16 08:39 PM


Originally Posted by shadaboot28 (Post 18515350)
I agree, I look on eBay every day to find vintage bikes. I've been buying and selling them for years. It makes me laugh when people put these ridiculous prices on bikes that are really not worth that much at all. The two bikes your referring to are nice, but they are not rare and not even that old. To try charge $5000 is hilarious. As you mentioned $500 would be more realistic but even that is pushing it.

Yeah, I feel like these folks use eBay as their "pricing guideline", find one of them listed on there for an unreasonable price, and base it on that. I HATE the ads that say "I've seen these go on eBay for (insert inflated price here.)" Of course, just because someone asks for an obscene price, doesn't mean they'll get it.

But yeah, $500 is even on the high side, though I wouldn't blink an eye when someone would post that price here in Portland.

shadaboot28 02-05-16 08:42 PM


Originally Posted by nlerner (Post 18515032)
Early 50s Raleigh Lenton Sports. Those Bluemels no-weight alloy mudguards are worth serious coin if in good shape.

If the left brake lever is original, then I would suggest that is a post 1956 Lenton. The right lever doesn't look original as it's not the typical Raleigh lever that was used throughout the 50's, it looks like it's off a BSA or something else. And I'm not sure if they are bluemels mudguards either, looking at the front mudguard it looks like a steel Raleigh guard that has been painted silver? But it's hard to tell from the small picture provided.


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