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gycho77 05-07-16 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by Baby Puke (Post 18749220)
Looks pretty cool! Price is right too. Can be hard to get your hands low enough with bullhorns and I've been using a LOOK stem that cost WAY more for years.

look Ergostem Oversized stem on eBay is way cheaper than this.
You can buy the oversized ergostem for around 350, but 104stem is around 560!!

Baby Puke 05-08-16 06:42 AM


Originally Posted by gycho77 (Post 18749265)
look Ergostem Oversized stem on eBay is way cheaper than this.
You can buy the oversized ergostem for around 350, but 104stem is around 560!!

Oh dang, I'm gonna have to get better at placing that decimal point! Oops...

sergioflorez 05-08-16 06:48 PM

ritchey and deda have adjustable stems for 1 1/8"

gycho77 05-12-16 03:51 PM

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If you are having hard time to tying your shoes tight try this method.
https://youtu.be/IijQyX_YCKA
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=521237

carleton 05-12-16 04:35 PM


Originally Posted by gycho77 (Post 18762751)
If you are having hard time to tying your shoes tight try this method.
https://youtu.be/IijQyX_YCKA
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=521237

That's a great tip!

gycho77 05-12-16 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by carleton (Post 18762859)
That's a great tip!

omg!!! I got a compliment from Carleton!
:)

gycho77 05-12-16 07:54 PM

Moss breaks more world records on her way to gold | Grafton Daily Examiner

I'm really interested in that rear wheel.
It doesn't look like pista shamal.
I'm also interested in her rocord, but my neighbor has 16holes shamal(1st generation tubular shamal and it's in really good shape) and he is planning to give it to me because he is not using it anymore. So I am really interested in converted shamal rear wheel.
If anyone know about Shamal rear conversion please tell me.

gycho77 05-12-16 08:15 PM

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I found a high quality track cycling YouTube channel.
Unlike other track cycling youtube videos, they are actually using a good camera with a good focus.
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=521287https://youtu.be/u-bP73CaxEc

carleton 05-12-16 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by gycho77 (Post 18763227)
Moss breaks more world records on her way to gold | Grafton Daily Examiner

I'm really interested in that rear wheel.
It doesn't look like pista shamal.
I'm also interested in her rocord, but my neighbor has 16holes shamal(1st generation tubular shamal and it's in really good shape) and he is planning to give it to me because he is not using it anymore. So I am really interested in converted shamal rear wheel.
If anyone know about Shamal rear conversion please tell me.

That's a great wheel. DO NOT convert it to a rear wheel. Leave it as a front wheel. It's been proven to be as aero as a Zipp 404.

If you convert it to a rear, what faster wheel will you put up front? Where will you get a 16h Campagnolo Pista hub to use for the rear?

Match set:

http://goodthingsinternational.com/p...dale_track.jpg

gycho77 05-12-16 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by carleton (Post 18763308)
That's a great wheel. DO NOT convert it to a rear wheel. Leave it as a front wheel. It's been proven to be as aero as a Zipp 404.

If you convert it to a rear, what faster wheel will you put up front? Where will you get a 16h Campagnolo Pista hub to use for the rear?

Match set:

http://goodthingsinternational.com/p...dale_track.jpg

I will probably get front and rear wheel(road wheel), and I was planning to replace front quick release for track races.
but I am not sure about the rear wheel.
I'm scare of losing stiffness and breaking spokes or hub.
If modern campagnolo 32hole doesn't have same dimension as the shamal hub, I have to change spokes and other
So I might just use my current low profile(araya gold) rear wheel.
Should I convert the road rear wheel to track rear wheel?

carleton 05-13-16 12:38 AM


Originally Posted by gycho77 (Post 18763360)
I will probably get front and rear wheel(road wheel), and I was planning to replace front quick release for track races.
but I am not sure about the rear wheel.
I'm scare of losing stiffness and breaking spokes or hub.
If modern campagnolo 32hole doesn't have same dimension as the shamal hub, I have to change spokes and other
So I might just use my current low profile(araya gold) rear wheel.
Should I convert the road rear wheel to track rear wheel?

All of this takes money.

If you are into tinkering and making a unique wheelset, fine. But, if you are racing on a budget, then don't bother.

Remember, older isn't always better.

gycho77 05-13-16 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by carleton (Post 18763624)
All of this takes money.

If you are into tinkering and making a unique wheelset, fine. But, if you are racing on a budget, then don't bother.

Remember, older isn't always better.

I will just use the shamal front wheel and keep the rear wheel somewhere in my house, because my neighbor is not going ask for extra money for the rear.
Also I might use the rear wheel for future.
This will be my setting for my next race(got this photo from google)
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=521372

and thank you for redirecting me

700wheel 05-13-16 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by gycho77 (Post 18763734)
I
.......................This will be my setting for my next race(got this photo from google)
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=521372
...........................

Not sure what you mean by this comment but that frame geometry using different diameter wheels is no longer allowed in USAC and UCI races.

MarkWW 05-13-16 11:47 AM

I think he just meant deep front wheel, shallow rear wheel.

gycho77 05-13-16 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by 700wheel (Post 18764854)
Not sure what you mean by this comment but that frame geometry using different diameter wheels is no longer allowed in USAC and UCI races.

Sorry about the confusions @MarkWW is correct.
I meant to say deep front wheel with shallow rear wheel
I was using the photo to show an example of this.
So the picture you are seeing is not mine

TrackMonkey7 05-13-16 09:25 PM


Originally Posted by gycho77 (Post 18762751)
If you are having hard time to tying your shoes tight try this method.
https://youtu.be/IijQyX_YCKA
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=521237

I saw this just prior to doing a workout, so I gave it a shot. I've only ever used velcro/ratchet shoes, and I am at the moment getting used to some Giro Empires; it's been interesting trying to memorize the right amount of tension to use that will feel snug but not make things go numb. In short, it seemed to help put tension across the midfoot like I like and keep things stable. Nice tip!

gycho77 05-14-16 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by TrackMonkey7 (Post 18766396)
I saw this just prior to doing a workout, so I gave it a shot. I've only ever used velcro/ratchet shoes, and I am at the moment getting used to some Giro Empires; it's been interesting trying to memorize the right amount of tension to use that will feel snug but not make things go numb. In short, it seemed to help put tension across the midfoot like I like and keep things stable. Nice tip!

Thanks
It's good to hear that this is helping you:thumb:

gycho77 05-20-16 05:48 AM

US team pursuit bike(Drivetrain moved to the lefthand side)
Team USA's secret team pursuit weapon - VeloNews.com

queerpunk 05-20-16 07:16 AM


Originally Posted by gycho77 (Post 18782704)
US team pursuit bike(Drivetrain moved to the lefthand side)
Team USA's secret team pursuit weapon - VeloNews.com

There's a bunch of REALLY interesting stuff in here.

First, it's a pursuit-only bike - apparently not very stiff at all, "not stiff enough" for mass-start racing.
Second, it's extremely narrow, requiring proprietary wheels - 95mm rear spacing?
Third, speaking of proprietary wheels, HED started making a lenticular disc? INTERESTING.
Fourth - new bayonette system and interesting stem situation.
Fifth (to me), actually, is the whole left-origin yaw angle situation and the LHD.

And superseding everything is that there's a pretty comprehensive superbike program (partnering usac, felt, and HED - and maybe others) aimed at a WOMEN'S PROGRAM.

A+.

Hope it performs well!

http://cdn.velonews.competitor.com/f...de-660x440.jpg

carleton 05-20-16 12:29 PM

Whoa. Seems like it's a pursuit bike built from the ground up. Not just hand-me-down stuff that's par for the course.

queerpunk 05-20-16 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by carleton (Post 18783762)
Whoa. Seems like it's a pursuit bike built from the ground up. Not just hand-me-down stuff that's par for the course.

Yup. I bet there don't exist any stems with clamps for drop handlebars that work with those bikes - they are all one-piece basebar/stems that clamp to whatever that proprietary Bayonette-and-Beyond interface is.

700wheel 05-20-16 01:48 PM

More info on how this bike evolved here:
http://www.feltbicycles.com/pursuitf...track_bike.pdf

Graeme Obree used narrow hubs for his hour record ride. I wonder if this Felt bike also uses a narrow Q crankset.

carleton 05-20-16 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by queerpunk (Post 18783910)
Yup. I bet there don't exist any stems with clamps for drop handlebars that work with those bikes - they are all one-piece basebar/stems that clamp to whatever that proprietary Bayonette-and-Beyond interface is.

The (obvious) downside is that this is gonna be a tough sell in the open market.

- Need custom or special-order training and race wheels.
- As a team manager, you can't use any fleet wheels or other components (cranks, stems, etc...)
- This can't pull double-duty as a mass start bike.
- Probably gonna retail for $5,000 USD

I guess it's no different than the GT Superbike. A very one-off thing for each rider on the team. Winning at the Olympics is probably more for brand awareness than selling that particular frame.

queerpunk 05-20-16 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by carleton (Post 18784031)
The (obvious) downside is that this is gonna be a tough sell in the open market.

- Need custom or special-order training and race wheels.
- As a team manager, you can't use any fleet wheels or other components (cranks, stems, etc...)
- This can't pull double-duty as a mass start bike.
- Probably gonna retail for $5,000 USD

I guess it's no different than the GT Superbike. A very one-off thing for each rider on the team. Winning at the Olympics is probably more for brand awareness than selling that particular frame.

Definitely a hard sell. Although it might be more of an act of philanthropy than of business.

Although Felt made the TK1 in both sprint and endurance models - I wonder if they'd make a Pursuit-only version of this bike, and then make a more consumer-friendly version of it with regular spacing, right hand drive, and a grip of stems to work with their system.

carleton 05-20-16 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by queerpunk (Post 18784082)
Definitely a hard sell. Although it might be more of an act of philanthropy than of business.

Although Felt made the TK1 in both sprint and endurance models - I wonder if they'd make a Pursuit-only version of this bike, and then make a more consumer-friendly version of it with regular spacing, right hand drive, and a grip of stems to work with their system.

Recall that the "sprint" version of the TK1 was probably a reaction to Jamie Staff asking for some changes for his riders (i.e. Make it stiffer. Ditch the bayonet stem system). No angles or any other dimensions were changed to make it more sprint-friendly.

Note that none of the top sprint bikes (British Super Bike, BT, etc...) are overly complex. Only the LOOK sprint bikes are complex. But, recall that that frame also started as mod of a road TT frame.

So, I think this new felt and it's derivatives would (and should) always be pursuit bikes. I know Sales and Marketing would love to say, "...and you can race mass start and sprints on it, too!!" but they probably shouldn't.

I'm not dissing Felt. I REALLY love and appreciate that they are actively trying to break out of the mold of designing bikes to fit components that have been around for decades. Change is hard. Recall that quill stems were once mainstream and someone had to introduce non-threaded forks and stems as we know it. Tough sell, but totally worth it and we consumers benefited.


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