Originally Posted by LAJ (Post 22285733)

Yes it was. I ask/look about every 6 months if there has been any resolution to the case, and so far, nothing. As far as I can tell, anyway.

Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 22285704)

Addict.

Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22285779)

After going to 42cm on the Cervelo, the 44cm bars on the Haanjo seem almost comically wide; I really don't like the way they feel, anymore.

Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22285779)

After going to 42cm on the Cervelo, the 44cm bars on the Haanjo seem almost comically wide; I really don't like the way they feel, anymore.

Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22285791)

3 of my C&V bikes have 42cm bars, which I tolerate because it's part of the aesthetic. But I'm more comfortable with 44s.

Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22285803)

I wonder if I can change my bars in Zwift to 42s for the aero gainz... :foo:

Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22285803)

I wonder if I can change my bars in Zwift to 42s for the aero gainz... :foo:

Originally Posted by Eric F (Post 22285811)

When I did the rebuild of my Nishiki, I originally built it with the 42s I had in my parts box. It didn't feel right. The Cinelli stem also didn't go low enough to get to my preferred setup. Swapping out for a Nitto stem that would slam, and 44 shallow-drop bars gave me the fit - and look - I like.

Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22285791)

3 of my C&V bikes have 42cm bars, which I tolerate because it's part of the aesthetic. But I'm more comfortable with 44s.

Originally Posted by Eric F (Post 22285793)

I'm the other way. I get on 42s and feel cramped. 44s always give me that "just right" feel.

Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22285828)

They definitely felt... weird at first. The leverage out of the saddle felt totally different. But with enough miles, they felt right and I haven't noticed them since. I'm fairly broad-shouldered, too, so I should be on 44s, according to conventional sizing of a few years back, but there's no impingement of breathing or any of the silly things like that that have been suggested in the past, so I only see negatives in going back to wider bars.

Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 22285479)

After enough dumb things, people change their mind about "smart." Feeling better now, but I'm looking forward to going home and taking a nap.

Actually felt good on the bike.

Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22285828)

They definitely felt... weird at first. The leverage out of the saddle felt totally different. But with enough miles, they felt right and I haven't noticed them since. I'm fairly broad-shouldered, too, so I should be on 44s, according to conventional sizing of a few years back, but there's no impingement of breathing or any of the silly things like that that have been suggested in the past, so I only see negatives in going back to wider bars.

Originally Posted by big john (Post 22285888)

What was not "smart" about the route?

Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22285828)

They definitely felt... weird at first. The leverage out of the saddle felt totally different. But with enough miles, they felt right and I haven't noticed them since. I'm fairly broad-shouldered, too, so I should be on 44s, according to conventional sizing of a few years back, but there's no impingement of breathing or any of the silly things like that that have been suggested in the past, so I only see negatives in going back to wider bars.

Originally Posted by Mojo31 (Post 22285892)

Man, broad shoulders and matinee good looks! Lady killer for sure. Jealous. :(

Originally Posted by ls01 (Post 22285615)

I had a Madone that suffered from the "bad bonding adhesive" I think it was a 96, who can remember. ( same bike L.A. rode in shark fin blue) But I bought it used.
One day on a ride it began to feel mushy in back. Sure enough the drop out had pulled out of the chain stay.
I called Trek in Wisconsin, spoke to a rep. He said bring it to the nearest Trek dealer and they would fix it, free. No problem. I was floored. Couldn't believe my ears. I reiterated, not original owner, bought it used. Again, no problem.
So I stripped it down to a bare frame and brought it to the nearest dealer in my area. 10 days later they call me to come get it. I stroll in after work, he says $132.00. $66.00 shipping each way. No one who I ever spoke to about this issue ever said they had been charged anything. I paid it and unwrapped it to find a dime size chip in the paint where the work was done.
I believe the dealer used this as an opertunity to make a few bucks off me. Trek, from what I learned later covers the shipping for warranty and repairs. The local dealer is supposed to just facilitate the handling, as part of their agreement with Trek.
So my problem here is even though I got my frame fixed for free, I got kind of shook down at the local dealer. Did they do anything wrong? Technically no, we never talked about shipping. It was still cheaper than a new frame right. But did I still feel the same elation that the guy at Trek made me feel when he said he would take care of me? Nope, I felt suckered, still do even today over it.
over the years I've spent a lot of money on bike stuff. Do you know how much money I've spent at that shop? 0. Do you know how many people I've told that story to? Everyone that would listen. I wonder if there is a way to calculate how much that $132.00 cost them in the long run. Do they care? Probably not....but I do.

Originally Posted by big john (Post 22285888)

What was not "smart" about the route?

Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22285837)

I definitely feel less comfortable out of the saddle with my bikes that have 42s, but they also have less ergonomic brake levers. The non-aero ones are especially weird - I have to figure out what to do with my ring fingers and pinkies.

Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 22285917)

It’s not the route, it’s doing it the morning after a Moderna shot. I was overly optimistic this a.m. and pretty sick right now.

Don’t plan on riding Sunday, @datlas.

Originally Posted by Eric F (Post 22285909)

My brain read that as "manatee good looks"...
https://s.abcnews.com/images/US/gty_...26_4x3_608.jpg

...which is pretty much how I feel after this past month of minimal riding and piggy eating.

Originally Posted by big john (Post 22285920)

I am most comfortable standing with the 44s on the Seven and always felt awkward standing with the 46 long reach bars on the Gunnar. Might have to do with the different geometry, too, but after practicing standing on the mtb with it's 800mm flat bar the road bikes seem much easier.

Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 22285286)

List so I remember what to do today:

--Eat

---Work

--Cycling Activity

--Eat

--Trumpet

--Other

Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 22285917)

It’s not the route, it’s doing it the morning after a Moderna shot. I was overly optimistic this a.m. and pretty sick right now.

Don’t plan on riding Sunday, @datlas.

Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22285940)

I find some bikes just swing like a metronome when I'm out of the saddle, and others seem to need more input. The Battaglin is the former sort, and it also corners like it knows where it's going. It's almost like it's saying, "Don't worry, guy. I know what I'm doing", and doesn't need me to tell it too much. Rides a little rough, however.