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Mojo31 01-12-22 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by rjones28 (Post 22371103)

In that weather, I would not commute on a bike, even if electrified. I'm not giving up my seat and steering wheel heaters.

Nor am I giving up my AC in the summer.

In any event, the streets between my home and office are not safe enough in my mind to be on them on any kind of bike.

Mojo31 01-12-22 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 22371109)
No, that's the gym scene. I miss that part the most. :lol:

I was thinking about your kitchen band concerts.

Velo Vol 01-12-22 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by rjones28 (Post 22371098)
You know you want one.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...d1daa65c98.jpg

big john 01-12-22 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 22371105)
I still have questions. There's a charging station in my town that seems to consist of about a dozen units, all labeled Tesla. So I say to myself, "This community isn't so wealthy that 12 Tesla's will need to simultaneously line up for recharges." If only Teslas can charge there it seems 3 or 4 units should be more than enough. How long does a full recharge take anyway?

I'm not knowledgeable about Tesla but the different types of charging will take different times. For the Bolt EV, which is an electric only car with a range of roughly 230 miles: if depleted a level 1 charge station, the thing that comes with the car and plugs into a 110 volt outlet, takes about 15 hours.
For level 2, which is 220 volt and requires a wall unit, about half the time, or 7-8 hours.
For a DC fast charger, it's supposed to charge to 80% in 25 minutes, or so.

Of course, you can always do a partial charge if you need to go.

Mojo31 01-12-22 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 22371105)
I still have questions. There's a charging station in my town that seems to consist of about a dozen units, all labeled Tesla. So I say to myself, "This community isn't so wealthy that 12 Tesla's will need to simultaneously line up for recharges." If only Teslas can charge there it seems 3 or 4 units should be more than enough. How long does a full recharge take anyway?

Times can vary depending on how much you want to charge.

It takes my car about 8 hours on a Level 2 charger to recharge from 20% to 80%. Tesla Level 2 chargers are roughly the same, but to some extent it depends on the size of your battery bank.

On a good DC/Level 3 charger, it takes about 15 - 30 minutes to charge from 20% to 80%. That includes the Tesla superchargers.

Out of the place near you that has a dozen Tesla chargers, 1 or 2 of those may be superchargers. The rests, if not all of them, will be Level 2 chargers.

Now, you might ask, what about if you want to charge to 100%? Most brands recommend against regularly charging to 100% since that can shorten battery lifetime. I've done it once, and frankly for my use it didn't make that much difference. Typically, I only charge every 2 to 3 weeks since I don't put a lot of miles on it.

Also, if using a Level 3/supercharger, once you hit the 80% mark, the charging rate really slows down to prevent damage to the batteries. Thus, once you hit that 80% mark in 15 minutes, the charger slows so much that getting to 100% could take several more hours.

Charge times also depend on battery size, battery temperature, and a host of other things.

My home charger can use either 110 volt or 220 volt supply. A charge from 20% to 80% using the 110 volt (Level 1) source takes about 40 hours for my car. Plugged into the 40 amp, 220 volt line I had installed (Level 2) gives me that charge overnight (I've never timed it - I just plug it in when I get home for the day and unplug the next morning).

WhyFi 01-12-22 10:51 AM

I'm trying to lay out some kitchen cabinets in SketchUp and my daughter, love her to death, will just not STFU. I mean, she's not even talking to me, she's talking to my wife in the next room over, but it still makes the job harder.

Not to be outdone, when asking my wife about a minor consideration, she says, "wait - we're not doing inset doors?" Oy. I guess that my idea of a kitchen refresh is different than hers. More work ahead of me, I guess.

indyfabz 01-12-22 10:53 AM


Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 22371105)
I still have questions. There's a charging station in my town that seems to consist of about a dozen units, all labeled Tesla. So I say to myself, "This community isn't so wealthy that 12 Tesla's will need to simultaneously line up for recharges." If only Teslas can charge there it seems 3 or 4 units should be more than enough. How long does a full recharge take anyway?

According to this, you can get 200 miles in 15 min.:

Supercharger | Tesla

I first saw one of those stations you are talking about in a shopping center that has a large grocery store in Brattleboro, VT. That was probably 2015. Guess it would be handy to use while shopping.

I have also seen the one at the Stewart's in Clinton Corners on the Salt Point Turnpike. Is that up your way?

LAJ 01-12-22 11:00 AM

The Natural Grocers has their charging stations fairly close to the front door. It's not unusual to have a first gen Prius parked in one of those spots, because, sort of electric....

Trsnrtr 01-12-22 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by Mojo31 (Post 22370948)
Man, you are too old for that nonsense! Glad there are no broken bones or bikes.

Besides rash on left elbow, Iím bruised along lower right arm and ribs were sore yesterday. I consider myself lucky.

rjones28 01-12-22 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 22371120)

How's that been going?

Eric F 01-12-22 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22371135)
I'm trying to lay out some kitchen cabinets in SketchUp and my daughter, love her to death, will just not STFU. I mean, she's not even talking to me, she's talking to my wife in the next room over, but it still makes the job harder.

Not to be outdone, when asking my wife about a minor consideration, she says, "wait - we're not doing inset doors?" Oy. I guess that my idea of a kitchen refresh is different than hers. More work ahead of me, I guess.

You know this means you ARE doing inset doors now, right?

Mojo31 01-12-22 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by Eric F (Post 22371201)
You know this means you ARE doing inset doors now, right?

Don't forget the hidden soft-close hinges.

Mojo31 01-12-22 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by LAJ (Post 22371150)
The Natural Grocers has their charging stations fairly close to the front door. It's not unusual to have a first gen Prius parked in one of those spots, because, sort of electric....

I parked at one of those in front of Kohls not long ago when making an Amazon return. I was in the store about 15 minutes, and when I got out I got 2 free miles of charge!

Mojo31 01-12-22 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22371135)
I'm trying to lay out some kitchen cabinets in SketchUp and my daughter, love her to death, will just not STFU. I mean, she's not even talking to me, she's talking to my wife in the next room over, but it still makes the job harder.

Not to be outdone, when asking my wife about a minor consideration, she says, "wait - we're not doing inset doors?" Oy. I guess that my idea of a kitchen refresh is different than hers. More work ahead of me, I guess.

More work for her since someone has to pay for it.

All of my wife's great ideas require me to either work more to generate more income or expend more labor to accomplish her goal.

Trsnrtr 01-12-22 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 22371081)
I'm going to continue staying away from the gym for awhile, at least until this latest surge abates somewhat. I just don't trust other people to be conscientious. I've got some at home routines to keep me buff ... er, fit.

My grandson is a cleaner at a Golds. He moves from machine to machine and surface to surface all shift long.

Trsnrtr 01-12-22 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 22371088)
I totally agree, but this guy is tough AF.

Damn straight.

BillyD 01-12-22 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by indyfabz (Post 22371140)
According to this, you can get 200 miles in 15 min.:

Supercharger | Tesla

I first saw one of those stations you are talking about in a shopping center that has a large grocery store in Brattleboro, VT. That was probably 2015. Guess it would be handy to use while shopping.

I have also seen the one at the Stewart's in Clinton Corners on the Salt Point Turnpike. Is that up your way?

Yes, I know of that Stewart's, I get eggs from a buddy in Salt Point.

The supermarket factor helps make more sense of the charging station I speak of, there's a TOPS market in that shopping center where folks can charge while shopping.

Mojo31 01-12-22 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by Trsnrtr (Post 22371236)
Damn straight.

Have to be to live in Peoria.

BillyD 01-12-22 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by Trsnrtr (Post 22371230)
My grandson is a cleaner at a Golds. He moves from machine to machine and surface to surface all shift long.

Yes, I do Golds, they do a good job with the hygiene.

DougRNS 01-12-22 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by ls01 (Post 22370759)
This is where I live too. Being mechanical inclined, a supercheapskate, and stubborn as eff, have served me well my whole life. I've never owned a car from New, not once. I wanted the next one to be brand new, but I don't want to feel like I'm being ***** for it either, so I've kind of decided to repair the Avalanche. I'll delete the dod system from the engine and cpu. So even if I get another junkyard engine. It'll work without any problems. It does however stick in my craw that I just (4 years ago) paid $7k for a brand new crate engine from GM. I used to be a Bow Tie Guy through and through, but I believe my next car will be a Kia, possibly a Soul. Mary Barra has taken way too much value out of Chevrolet to my liking. They build absolute garbage now.

that was me.
I was bow tie until 2015 but as the abused partner I finally got up the courage and left the marriage. I'm now now a Honda guy, for now. They have to earn my loyalty from now on.

seedsbelize2 01-12-22 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by bampilot06 (Post 22370962)
interesting the push for EV when the country doesnít have the infrastructure sorted out to handle EV. If you only have one level 3 charger near you, and you are in an actual city I canít imagine whatís in my area.

Been living under a rock?

DougRNS 01-12-22 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by DougRNS (Post 22371257)
that was me.
I was bow tie until 2015 but as the abused partner I finally got up the courage and left the marriage. I'm now now a Honda guy, for now. They have to earn my loyalty from now on.

Reminds me of this.


datlas 01-12-22 12:09 PM

Good ride. We only had 4 hardy souls, start temp was low 20’s but warmed up gradually to around freezing by the end. To avoid ice, we did ride on slightly busier roads, we only got buzzed once by a big MF dump truck. Other than that scare, ride was 100% fun.

DougRNS 01-12-22 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by rjones28 (Post 22370932)
wut

littering reminds me of this

MoAlpha 01-12-22 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by Trsnrtr (Post 22371230)
My grandson is a cleaner at a Golds. He moves from machine to machine and surface to surface all shift long.


Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 22371253)
Yes, I do Golds, they do a good job with the hygiene.

If only surfaces mattered...:(

seedsbelize2 01-12-22 12:43 PM

I rode a road bike this morning. It was nice.

BillyD 01-12-22 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 22371324)
If only surfaces mattered...:(

Glad you brought that up. Letís say an asymptomatic guy coughs into his hand and then grabs some barbells and works out. Then I come behind him and use the same barbells, and unconsciously touch my nose or my mouth, letís say to wipe some sweat away. Is there no chance the virus could spread that way, especially omicron?

BillyD 01-12-22 12:56 PM

I am aware it is primarily an airborne transmitter, but is it 100% or does touching surfaces contribute maybe 10%?

indyfabz 01-12-22 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 22371242)
Yes, I know of that Stewart's, I get eggs from a buddy in Salt Point.

One of my favorite stretches up that way is Shun Pike between U.S. 44 and NY 82. And there use to be a bunch of alpacas on a farm at Netherwood and Salt Point Turnpike, but they were not there the last time I rode that way.

MoAlpha 01-12-22 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 22371348)
Glad you brought that up. Letís say an asymptomatic guy coughs into his hand and then grabs some barbells and works out. Then I come behind him and use the same barbells, and unconsciously touch my nose or my mouth, letís say to wipe some sweat away. Is there no chance the virus could spread that way, especially omicron?

I don't think anyone knows, but the primary route of spread, as you know, is by droplets in the air. There are some pure GI presentations. Maybe they're acquired by mouth. Good question for [MENTION=107711]datlas[/MENTION].


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