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Pagacar? After today's showing, well, It sure looks like the kid is on the way again. Granted, it's early, but damn, what a showing.
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Originally Posted by dmanthree
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Pagacar? After today's showing, well, It sure looks like the kid is on the way again. Granted, it's early, but damn, what a showing.
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He doesn't have a tendency to play it safe, but if he does, then the GC competition could be pretty dull from here on out.
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Originally Posted by one4smoke
(Post 22127982)
Pogacar is the only one that can beat Pogacar. Something bad would have to happen for him not to win. Otherwise he cruises.
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Originally Posted by dmanthree
(Post 22128308)
Sure looks that way,
Originally Posted by dmanthree
(Post 22128308)
and he's got a strong team as well.
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All the crashes this past week has eliminated the other teams leaders to challenge Pog
This year it’s enjoy each day’s race for itself and don’t worry about the Yellow jersey this year. While Pog will win the yellow jersey this year it be due to the field being being weak. |
He reminds me of a previous yellow jersey winner who is not listed as a winner. Am I the only one?
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After today's stage.... Ben O'Connor is the only chance unless someone has a "Contador steak".
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Originally Posted by philbob57
(Post 22128661)
He reminds me of a previous yellow jersey winner who is not listed as a winner. Am I the only one?
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Originally Posted by dmanthree
(Post 22128921)
I've seen this a few times now. But they would never DQ him. They only DQ Americans winners.
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Originally Posted by MinnMan
(Post 22128975)
Contador.
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Originally Posted by MinnMan
(Post 22128509)
yes
no I guess we'll see as the race progresses. Was funny today that Cavendish needed two rider to escort him to the finish. But hey....sprinters. |
Originally Posted by dmanthree
(Post 22128996)
Ah, right. The backdated rug test. But how about Pantani? Oh, well.
And then dead 5 years later. . |
So many race altering crashes early on.... :(
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Originally Posted by MinnMan
(Post 22128975)
Contador.
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It's the dominance TP showed in the last 2 stages, just motoring away from everyone - gaining 2minutes in the last few km yesterday going up a mountain. Maybe he's that much better than everyone else. The lesson of history, however, not to mention probabilities, says he's probably about as good as other top riders.
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Originally Posted by MinnMan
(Post 22129010)
DQ'ed from the 1999 Giro.
And then dead 5 years later. . |
Originally Posted by dmanthree
(Post 22129588)
Never could figure out why they didn't strip him of his title. Clearly cheating.
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Originally Posted by MinnMan
(Post 22129609)
Maybe you should read up on the history and learn how it all went down. Meanwhile, your original assertion about "only Americans" is ridiculous.
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Originally Posted by dmanthree
(Post 22129616)
Not that bad. Since that Frenchman in 1904, 2 of the three who had their titles stripped were Americans. And from what I've read, many, many riders tested positive during Armstrong's wins, so why no punishment for them?
Pollentier 1978 Pantani 1999 So now you're at 2 out of 6, proving mostly that you don't know your history, but surely not interfering with the narrative you are clutching. I'm done with this one.. |
Originally Posted by MinnMan
(Post 22129628)
Mercxx 1969
Pollentier 1978 Pantani 1999 So now you're at 2 out of 6, proving mostly that you don't know your history, but surely not interfering with the narrative you are clutching. I'm done with this one.. |
MinnMan you lasted longer than this thread deserved after it went sideways.
Questioning the results with science and analysis is worth the bandwidth. Grinding an axe with disbelief and ignorance is unworthy. We saw both kinds in the Lance era. Unfortunately, both kinds feel vindicated by his result. I don't know if I'm more sorry for the zealots who can't believe there's a clean rider out there who does great things, or the other zealots who contributed to the Floyd Fairness Fund and such. The truth can be elusive but some table stakes facts are just a Google away. |
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