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Ged117 04-27-20 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by ascherer (Post 21438861)
I believe the stem is as high as it goes safely. I wanted to keep as much of the original equipment as possible. My commute is about 4.5 miles each way and I found I was feeling cramped reaching for the bars and wanting to slide my butt back. The seatpost resolved both issues. Sprung Brooks saddles want their nose up to the point where it freaks out folks that havenít ridden them. Seems counter intuitive but itís remarkably comfortable, especially on rough city streets. Have you tired tightening the adjusting nut at the nose of the saddle?

Thanks. I feel the same way. I don't want to remove the original stem, bar, or add an extender. I am going to try a layback seatpost. I haven't adjusted the nut because it is a 70 year old saddle and I am afraid of tearing the leather. rhm suggested finding some foam to stuff underneath between the leather and rails to shore up the seat surface. I was thinking of trying case foam from the hardware store, cut to fit.

ascherer 04-27-20 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by Ged117 (Post 21442119)
Thanks. I feel the same way. I don't want to remove the original stem, bar, or add an extender. I am going to try a layback seatpost. I haven't adjusted the nut because it is a 70 year old saddle and I am afraid of tearing the leather. rhm suggested finding some foam to stuff underneath between the leather and rails to shore up the seat surface. I was thinking of trying case foam from the hardware store, cut to fit.

There's no better source of saddle advice here than Rudi.

gster 04-27-20 02:13 PM

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...eef385d722.jpg
Custom BSA Path Racer for sale...
https://deadrats.co.uk/2020/01/16/fo...sa-path-racer/
Nice bike but a bit pricey.
On a side note the seller has used the word "Bespoke" in the description.
Bespoke does refer to something custom made but specifically refers to something that has "been spoken about previously"
i.e. ordering a custom made shirt or a hat for example.

Salubrious 04-27-20 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by Ged117 (Post 21436655)
Seems like GB Coureur brakes, handlebars, and stems go for $$ these days, but I'd like to outfit it with period brakes, bar, and stem. I may go '70s on brake levers because the small bits in '50s GB levers are very old and likely brittle now.

I've not had any troubles with the small bits in the GB brake levers. On several occasions though I've cannibalized Weinmann levers for the clamps that fix the lever to the handlbars. I've also found it advantageous to mount the clamp on the bars first, and then offer the lever to it, rather than try to work the lever and clamp around the bends of the bars.

thumpism 04-27-20 06:19 PM

Cheap it says, or maybe even free
And it looks like a ladies' 23.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...6495416048901/

https://scontent.fric1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...a6&oe=5ECE2D3E

gster 04-28-20 07:30 AM

Here's one for the detectives
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...426048557e.jpg
A new listing on Kijiji, Toronto
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b9ef03bfc6.jpg
A nice fender ornament
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a34991766d.jpg
Looks to be British....

Velognome 04-28-20 07:55 AM

Looks like a Rudge

Velognome 04-28-20 08:01 AM


Originally Posted by gster (Post 21442256)
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...eef385d722.jpg
Custom BSA Path Racer for sale...
https://deadrats.co.uk/2020/01/16/fo...sa-path-racer/
Nice bike but a bit pricey.
On a side note the seller has used the word "Bespoke" in the description.
Bespoke does refer to something custom made but specifically refers to something that has "been spoken about previously"
i.e. ordering a custom made shirt or a hat for example.

Or buy a garage sale Raleigh, ditch the fenders and flip the bars...all for about $100
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...dee111d3bb.jpg

gster 04-28-20 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by Velognome (Post 21443473)
Or buy a garage sale Raleigh, ditch the fenders and flip the bars...all for about $100
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...dee111d3bb.jpg

Agreed!
A classic Scorcher!
This one ticks all the boxes.

Ged117 04-28-20 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by Salubrious (Post 21442290)
I've not had any troubles with the small bits in the GB brake levers. On several occasions though I've cannibalized Weinmann levers for the clamps that fix the lever to the handlbars. I've also found it advantageous to mount the clamp on the bars first, and then offer the lever to it, rather than try to work the lever and clamp around the bends of the bars.

That's a great tip. I have a pair of Mafac levers that I could perhaps steal clamps from.

clubman 04-28-20 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by gster (Post 21443431)
Here's one for the detectives
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...426048557e.jpg
A new listing on Kijiji, Toronto

A nice fender ornament
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a34991766d.jpg
Looks to be British....

I'd guess a Birmingham Hercules with an add-on ornament. Women's roadsters had that distinctive ledge at the headtube/downtube intersection as well as the short connecting tube.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...84d40d7085.jpg

gster 04-28-20 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by clubman (Post 21443889)
I'd guess a Birmingham Hercules with an add-on ornament. Women's roadsters had that distinctive ledge at the headtube/downtube intersection as well as the short connecting tube.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...84d40d7085.jpg

Good suggestion.
My 1930 Hercules also has a hole in the front fender (no ornament).
I like those "7" seat posts as well.

gster 04-28-20 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by Velognome (Post 21443473)
Or buy a garage sale Raleigh, ditch the fenders and flip the bars...all for about $100
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...dee111d3bb.jpg

I find that just looking at a bike like this cheers me up.
The proportions, the angles, the relationship between the frame and the wheels.
It's quite perfect in it's design and function.
Well done.
Being of Scottish descent, I like the frugality as well....

dweenk 04-28-20 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by gster (Post 21443431)
Here's one for the detectives
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...426048557e.jpg
A new listing on Kijiji, Toronto
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b9ef03bfc6.jpg
A nice fender ornament
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a34991766d.jpg
Looks to be British....

I am thinking German.

arty dave 05-01-20 05:05 AM

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1c01d1969f.jpg
TCW hub stamped 1957. This is halfway through cleaning & I'm reassembling as I go. I had to stop at this point because I forgot to bring grease with me to where I'm doing this; and it was time to pack the bearings. I got this from a trashed ladies framed BSA, and was also able to harvest its steel wheeled cable guide and the shifter. The gear insides show no signs of wear which is nice, just a little wear on the bronze brake shoe. This will go on a mid-fifties Australian roadster with 28 3/8" wheels (642mm). I've heard the braking from these is fairly lame, but I'll have a decent front brake to do most of the stopping.

JohnDThompson 05-01-20 06:03 AM


Originally Posted by arty dave (Post 21448559)
TCW hub stamped 1957. […] I've heard the braking from these is fairly lame, but I'll have a decent front brake to do most of the stopping.

The problem with the TCW series hubs is that the coaster brake is actuated through the internal gearing rather than directly. What this means is that when the hub is in "high" gear (i.e. when you are likely to be going fastest), the mechanical advantage of the brake is decreased, making it less effective. Conversely, when the hub is in low gear, the mechanical advantage is increased above what it would be if actuated directly. At least that situation shouldn't be dangerous. And if you're barreling along in high gear and need to brake, you would get best performance if you shifted to low gear to apply the coaster brake.

BigChief 05-01-20 08:59 AM

You could also add a caliper brake to the rear wheel.

gster 05-01-20 09:22 AM

Raleigh Oddball
Listed on Kijiji as a 1930's Glider. I suspect it's from the 50's
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8f73e17531.jpg
Note the interesting double pulley set up for the gear cable
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...114c816d00.jpg

It's got a 3 speed dynohub coaster and rod brakes up front.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...15094ee4bc.jpg

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ac93e4cc09.jpg
Seller is asking an optimistic $500.00

noglider 05-01-20 09:36 AM

Wow, I didn't know that about the TCW. I've heard warnings of other flaws in the hub, too.

clubman 05-01-20 09:45 AM

Hey gster, pretty sure that's not unlike your post from the other day. Not Raleigh but Birmingham. Same ledge on the top tube and typical fork crown. I had one of those early Gliders, a men's double top tube and it was huge. Nor was it a Raleigh. I think the Glider might be 40's but it doesn't matter. Nice big brass headbadges.
That one's a hodgepodge. Looks like a US stem, CCM mudguards and chainguard. Double shifter pulley? I guess the 'builder' couldn't find a long enough cable but did have an extra pulley on hand. Creative and bizarre.

gster 05-01-20 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by clubman (Post 21448969)
Hey gster, pretty sure that's not unlike your post from the other day. Not Raleigh but Birmingham. Same ledge on the top tube and typical fork crown. I had one of those early Gliders, a men's double top tube and it was huge. Nor was it a Raleigh. I think the Glider might be 40's but it doesn't matter. Nice big brass headbadges.
That one's a hodgepodge. Looks like a US stem, CCM mudguards and chainguard. Double shifter pulley? I guess the 'builder' couldn't find a long enough cable but did have an extra pulley on hand. Creative and bizarre.

Good analysis.
I'd always assumed that Raleigh was the Eatons supplier but perhaps that wasn't established
until the mid-50's or so.
Hodgepodge is a good description.
Also the name of a stew of sorts......

RRJohn 05-01-20 11:33 AM

SA Indicator Chain Replacement
 
I have a pair of Raleigh Sports from 1966 that need the SA indicator chains replaced. The hub is labeled 66 and 1. The chains ordered were HSA 125. The spindle is the same length as the original but the the original chain has 6 links and the replacement only has 5 links. Will this affect the shifting? Where can I get a 6 link indicator chain?

Thanks for any suggestions or advice,
Robert

clubman 05-01-20 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by RRJohn (Post 21449174)
I have a pair of Raleigh Sports from 1966 that need the SA indicator chains replaced. The hub is labeled 66 and 1. The chains ordered were HSA 125. The spindle is the same length as the original but the the original chain has 6 links and the replacement only has 5 links. Will this affect the shifting? Where can I get a 6 link indicator chain?

Thanks for any suggestions or advice,
Robert

As long as the chain is long enough to run out of the indicator nut cleanly, it doesn't matter. Maybe there's still enough thread range to allow proper adjustment of your gears. Try it. If not, you can adjust position of the Fulcrum stop to give you a little more slack to make up for the shorter chain. Remember to lightly grease the indicator and back it off a half turn from full insertion and continue until the chain runs smooth and straight over the nut.

usarnie1 05-01-20 12:27 PM

My1953 Hercules Windsor QEII Bicycle
 
I thought I would share with you the prize of my bicycle collection. It is a near mint 1953 Hercules Windsor QEII coronation celebration bicycle. Aside from doing a re-spray to the chain guard, adding a replica Hercules Windsor sticker to it, installing a set of Michelin tires, thorn proof tubes, Brooks B66 leather Saddle & tool pouch, NOS Hungerford Supper jet hand grips, all new barrel adjusting cables & brake pads, NOS Hercules pedals, 3" bell, new air pump, Dual Miller headlights with modern LED bulbs installed, stem mounted concave rear view mirror, replica 1950s Space Patrol Terra IV space ship front fender stickers, QEII Coronation badge and a NOS Midland rear carrying rack. The remainder of the bike is mostly all original.

The bike originally came to me with only a single speed rear coaster brake and no hand controls. I changed all that back to stock using a Hercules B type rear hub, new 185mm spokes (trimmed down to 183mm), both caliper brakes, hand controls, brake cables and a Hercumatic 3 speed shifter with all the necessary hardware, cable and indicator chain.

I purchased this bike on E-bay. It was located in Rhode Island. I had a cousin of mine, who lives in Massachusetts, go pick it up and then ship it to me in California. The seller of this bike purchased it from a storage auction. Judging by the excellent condition of the paint and decals, I presume the bike spent many years, or decades, locked up in a storage facility. I won the e-bay auction with a bid of $55. Plus $100 for shipping. So far I have spent over $700 to add all the components to the bike as listed above.

I have 10 vintage European 3 speed bicycles in my collection and my Hercules Windsor is my favorite of all of them. The replica stickers were purchased from redbubble.com and all the other parts were purchased on e-bay. To me all the work and money spent on this bicycle was worth it.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...80de2eb7b3.jpg
1953 Hercules Windsor QEII Bicycle

rogerm3d 05-01-20 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by usarnie1 (Post 21449295)
I thought I would share with all of you the prize of my bicycle collection. It is a near mint 1953 Hercules Windsor QEII coronation celebration bicycle. Aside from doing a re-spray to the chain guard and adding a new sticker to it, The remainder of the bike is mostly all original.
1953 Hercules Windsor QEII Bicycle

That's a great looking bike. I like the dual headlight configuration. I've always enjoyed the chainrings like on your bike with the lettering.

My Dayton Roadmaster, the original rear hub was date stamped to 1955
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ea9fb39e2b.jpg

gster 05-01-20 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by usarnie1 (Post 21449295)
I thought I would share with you the prize of my bicycle collection. It is a near mint 1953 Hercules Windsor QEII coronation celebration bicycle. Aside from doing a re-spray to the chain guard, adding a new Hercules Windsor sticker to it, installing a set of Michelin tires, thorn proof tubes, Brooks B66 leather Saddle & tool pouch, NOS Hungerford Supper jet hand grips, all new barrel adjusting cables & brake pads, NOS Hercules pedals, 3" bell, Dual Miller headlights with modern LED bulbs installed, stem mounted concave rear view mirror, QEII Coronation badge and a NOS Midland rear carrying rack. The remainder of the bike is mostly all original.

I purchased this bike on E-bay. It was located in Rhode Island. I had a cousin of mine, who lives in Massachusetts, go pick it up and then ship it to me in California.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...80de2eb7b3.jpg
1953 Hercules Windsor QEII Bicycle

That's quite a bike!
Looks like it should be leading a parade.
Imagine finding that under the Christmas tree...

BigChief 05-02-20 06:43 AM


Originally Posted by usarnie1 (Post 21449295)
I thought I would share with you the prize of my bicycle collection. It is a near mint 1953 Hercules Windsor QEII coronation celebration bicycle. Aside from doing a re-spray to the chain guard, adding a new Hercules Windsor sticker to it, installing a set of Michelin tires, thorn proof tubes, Brooks B66 leather Saddle & tool pouch, NOS Hungerford Supper jet hand grips, all new barrel adjusting cables & brake pads, NOS Hercules pedals, 3" bell, Dual Miller headlights with modern LED bulbs installed, stem mounted concave rear view mirror, QEII Coronation badge and a NOS Midland rear carrying rack. The remainder of the bike is mostly all original.

I purchased this bike on E-bay. It was located in Rhode Island. I had a cousin of mine, who lives in Massachusetts, go pick it up and then ship it to me in California.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...80de2eb7b3.jpg
1953 Hercules Windsor QEII Bicycle

Nice one!


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8b23577630.jpg

nlerner 05-03-20 10:01 AM

In case anyone is thinking about treating your old 3-speed to some new, high-end shoes:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Grand-Bois-...UAAOSw-bRehM4-

clubman 05-03-20 05:28 PM

Wish I had $200 to blow. I've got some alloy rims that would love these.

gster 05-03-20 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by nlerner (Post 21452651)
In case anyone is thinking about treating your old 3-speed to some new, high-end shoes:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Grand-Bois-...UAAOSw-bRehM4-

That's more than my shoes cost....


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