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datlas 09-02-21 12:09 PM

Oh in case anyone is interested, here is the Kutztown Donuts route for Saturday. It's kinda flat but that's what my friends prefer. It's also kinda short but I can ride to/from the start to get an extra 18 miles so ALMOST a century.

​​​​​​https://ridewithgps.com/routes/37360142

Mojo31 09-02-21 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets (Post 22212064)
Well, at least there aren't lions and tigers and bears roaming the area :)

https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-025081803818

Or gators - A Louisiana Man Is Missing After an Alligator Attacked Him - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

big john 09-02-21 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22212181)
Oh in case anyone is interested, here is the Kutztown Donuts route for Saturday. It's kinda flat but that's what my friends prefer. It's also kinda short but I can ride to/from the start to get an extra 18 miles so ALMOST a century.

​​​​​​https://ridewithgps.com/routes/37360142

I wouldn't call 4700 feet in 80 miles "flat".

Mojo31 09-02-21 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by big john (Post 22212228)
I wouldn't call 4700 feet in 80 miles "flat".

He said, "kinda flat." That's different. :rolleyes:

datlas 09-02-21 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by big john (Post 22212228)
I wouldn't call 4700 feet in 80 miles "flat".

I suppose not really flat, but I prefer 100 feet/mile. So for 80 miles it should be 8000 feet.

#Compromises

big john 09-02-21 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22212236)
I suppose not really flat, but I prefer 100 feet/mile. So for 80 miles it should be 8000 feet.

#Compromises

100 feet per mile is "mountainous". Used to be my preferred quantity of feet, too. edit: When it comes to centuries, 10k is a bit much for me.

I guess 4700 in 80 could be called "hilly".

Mojo31 09-02-21 01:04 PM

This is where I have to ask, how do you keep your chest from asploding? ;)

I'd have to look long and far to find a route with 100'/mile around here. Prolly why there is no Tour de Tejas on the pro circuit. There is a local annual Tour de Italia ride that is about 26'/mile over a metric.

Eric F 09-02-21 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by Mojo31 (Post 22212255)
This is where I have to ask, how do you keep your chest from asploding? ;)

I'd have to look long and far to find a route with 100'/mile around here. Prolly why there is no Tour de Tejas on the pro circuit. There is a local annual Tour de Italia ride that is about 26'/mile over a metric.

I've raced crits with more elevation gain.

rjones28 09-02-21 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by indyfabz (Post 22212093)
I remember when the highway didn't exist. :50:

Same.

big john 09-02-21 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by Mojo31 (Post 22212255)
This is where I have to ask, how do you keep your chest from asploding? ;)

The route we used to do a lot in summer is an out and back of 80 miles with over 8k. It's not bad because there is nothing super steep and elevation tops out @7900.
Essentially it has 4 climbs around 5 miles each and a bunch of smaller climbs. There is climbing going both ways but more on the way out.

The Mount Baldy Village ride is 63 miles with 6300 feet, going the long way, or 50 ish miles with over 5k feet the short way. Most of the climbing is on the way up, so it's harder to me. It's basically a 25 mile climb.

There is a century I've done a few times that has 10k. It's another out and back but has steep climbs both ways, including at the end. To me, it's brutal.

There are a lot of variables besides the actual feet per mile average. Where the climbs are in the ride, road surface, and how hard you're pushing. Not to mention if you have the gear you need. I need a lower gear than a goat like datlas when things get steep.

ls01 09-02-21 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by Mojo31 (Post 22211685)
That happens around here a lot. We even have roads with depth markers. But, people just ignore those types of things.

Can't fix stupid.

No but you can wrap it in duct tape, it muffler the sound quite well.

BillyD 09-02-21 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by big john (Post 22212239)

I guess 4700 in 80 could be called too damn "hilly".

Fixed.

BillyD 09-02-21 01:56 PM

Screw climbing.

datlas 09-02-21 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by Mojo31 (Post 22212255)
This is where I have to ask, how do you keep your chest from asploding? ;)

IMO the key to doing well on hills is do NOT go into the red zone. Stay just below your FTP, where the pace/effort is sustainable. Maybe go into the red zone briefly if needed near the top when you can recover on the descent.

Oh, and hollow bones/bird DNA helps too.

Mojo31 09-02-21 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 22212305)
Screw climbing.

I know, right? It just about killed me to walk uphill for a little less than 4 miles and go from 9,500' to 11,300'. Of course, that was about 500'/mile, not counting the "back ups" following the dips.

big john 09-02-21 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 22212305)
Screw climbing.

It's not for everyone.

Mojo31 09-02-21 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by Eric F (Post 22212270)
I've raced crits with more elevation gain.

Lol - my last ride was 19'/mile. My hilliest ride in the last year was only 38'/mile, and that was in the hilliest part of town that is within riding distance or reasonable driving distance.

datlas 09-02-21 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 22212305)
Screw climbing.

Incorrect.

Sit up a little, find the right gear/rhythm, and it's the best. The best, Jerry! THE BEST!!

TMonk 09-02-21 02:11 PM

I don't particularly like climbing, even though at 66 kg (145 lbs) I'm supposed to be good at it. I was good at it too, until I started racing P/1/2. When I'm going real good I can put out a 5.0 w/kg 20 min number on a climb, but even that's not gonna be a top time in my fields.

I prefer going fast - I find it more fun and easier to push myself when I'm feeling some speed! Crit, track, TT/TTT etc. Let's get up the road/in a break!

I have been particularly enjoying TTT the last few seasons - winning team from 2019 SCNCA elites (still holds due to pandemic), course record at local series (Fiesta Island).

Eric F 09-02-21 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22212329)
Incorrect.

Sit up a little, find the right gear/rhythm, and it's the best. The best, Jerry! THE BEST!!

Negative.

ls01 09-02-21 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by LAJ (Post 22211838)
See there? You're catching my drift. I'm tempted to do the same here. We're on a tiered water plan, because they have to pay for the increased capacity for all the multi-family dwellings they're building. Permanent construction adding big ol honkin water infrastructure. Gotta have that tax base, you know.

You know for a while here in Detroit they were trying to make you pay a water rate based on how much pavement you had. Because of the run off that had to be treated. In The city there are storm drains, but they are connected to the sewer system. So no Grey water. The water authority got its ass handed to it in court for that one.

ls01 09-02-21 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by indyfabz (Post 22212017)
I-676 in the city. Itís below street level.


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8ee51a749.jpeg

.looks familiar....

WhyFi 09-02-21 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by TMonk (Post 22212333)
I prefer going fast - I find it more fun and easier to push myself when I'm feeling some speed!

This is my biggest stumbling block/objection to climbing (other than being a fat ass) - I feel like I should be moving along at a decent clip with FTP-ish efforts, so to be crawling along offends my sensibilities.

That said, I've never endured a "real" climb, and I'm sure that I would feel some sense of satisfaction upon cresting after a long effort.

WhyFi 09-02-21 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22212346)
... and I'm sure that I would feel some sense of satisfaction upon cresting after a long effort.

Or maybe "climaxing," is a better word? That would explain datlas' love of climbing.




:innocent:

Mojo31 09-02-21 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22212352)
Or maybe "climaxing," is a better word? That would explain datlas' love of climbing.




:innocent:

You sure seem focused on "nookie" and its relatives these days. Everything okay at home? :rolleyes:


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