Originally Posted by Mojo31 (Post 22558372)

I like mine. And, I don't get that nasty white corrosion from sweat under my tape either (I don't think!).

Originally Posted by big john (Post 22558242)

What I did for the last 30 years was diagnosis, engine performance, emissions, electronics, the stuff nobody wants to do. There was a dramatic change in 1996 with the introduction of protocols and laws for vehicles to monitor emission related stuff. This is called OBD 2 and the connector under the dash is called the data link connector. This connector allows access to the up to 30 computers on a communication link.

If checking a used car you can see any trouble codes which are set, even if warning lights are not on. If a car has a bad catalytic converter, for example, the seller can clear the light with a code reader and it won't come back on until the computer has failed it's test. A good code reader will tell you if the tests have been run, or not.

In California a car will fail a smog check if those tests have not run. This is a source of much frustration for technicians trying to get the tests (called monitors) to pass. It can be a giant PITA.[/QUOTE]
Yeah. We were on the verge of despair when Mrs. GeneJockey's Sienna wouldn't pass because ONE TEST kept showing as "Not Ready".

Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22558352)

I remember. You were ready to replace the cat(s).

Originally Posted by big john (Post 22558331)

Plus the bonus of women on bikes smiling back.

Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 22558383)

Just replaced my sticky 6800 FD with the 8000 unit. It's a very nice design with some fairly significant innovations, like a better pull angle and an excellent cable tensioning system. Also, a breeze to set up.

Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets (Post 22558399)

So close to coaxing the trailer onto that tiny bridge :)

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...VA&oe=62C2A3F5

Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 22558383)

Just replaced my sticky 6800 FD with the 8000 unit. It's a very nice design with some fairly significant innovations, like a better pull angle and an excellent cable tensioning system. Also, a breeze to set up.

Originally Posted by Mojo31 (Post 22558359)

Originally Posted by Trsnrtr (Post 22558452)

Well, since her bike hasn't been shipped, I'm sure something will be figured out by the time it is.

Originally Posted by t2p (Post 22558436)

6800 FD vs R8000 FD

not positive - ? -

Is there a slight difference in the crankset / chainring spacing - 6800 vs R8000 ?

And if yes - is there a difference in the FD design or operation ?
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Originally Posted by t2p (Post 22558239)

Originally Posted by Trsnrtr (Post 22558452)

Well, since her bike hasn't been shipped, I'm sure something will be figured out by the time it is.

Originally Posted by bampilot06 (Post 22558500)

Why would it not have the bars I have?

I was told they were going away from the one piece design back in June last year.

Originally Posted by Mojo31 (Post 22558502)

That was the one piece Madone stem/bar I believe. The Madones and Emonda don’t share the same bars.

I think also that the Madone’s cables are run through the bars and into the head tube; whereas, the Emonda’s are routed under the bars.

Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets (Post 22558399)

So close to coaxing the trailer onto that tiny bridge :)

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...VA&oe=62C2A3F5

Originally Posted by bampilot06 (Post 22558510)

Well that’s silly. They should have made them the same. I thought that was the whole point. Emonda/Madone.

Originally Posted by Mojo31 (Post 22558515)

Madone more aero.

Emonda lighter weight.

Not the same. Otherwise, you’d have to throw the Domane in there.

All use the same letters though.

Originally Posted by Mojo31 (Post 22558515)

Madone more aero.

Emonda lighter weight.

Not the same. Otherwise, you’d have to throw the Domane in there.

All use the same letters though.

Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22558522)

I'm surprised they haven't made an electric bike for bikepacking and called it the eNomad.

Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22558522)

I'm surprised they haven't made an electric bike for bikepacking and called it the eNomad.