Which Cat to register for first race?
Want to try my first race at age 46. The options for registering are Cat 5 or Masters (45+) with no cat options given for the masters. Which one do I sign up for?
Chris |
5. It will be hard enough.
Master 45+ will be 'open' which means you'll be blown off in just a few laps. A lot of races will let you sign up for multiple, so there's no harm in doing both, though if the Master's is first you may be too toasted for another race. |
I'm not a racer and never will be. But from what I've heard, you definitely want 5. That's the 'beginner' class. If you do well there, you can always move up next time.
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There are three other subforums that would be better places to ask your question:
"The 33"-Road Bike Racing would be my first recommendation Masters Racing - All Disciplines would be second, and Road Cycling would be third. This general cycling subforum has a higher percentage of non-racers. |
Originally Posted by superdex
(Post 21973533)
5. It will be hard enough.
Master 45+ will be 'open' which means you'll be blown off in just a few laps. A lot of races will let you sign up for multiple, so there's no harm in doing both, though if the Master's is first you may be too toasted for another race. |
Originally Posted by superdex
(Post 21973533)
5. It will be hard enough.
Master 45+ will be 'open' which means you'll be blown off in just a few laps. A lot of races will let you sign up for multiple, so there's no harm in doing both, though if the Master's is first you may be too toasted for another race. |
Originally Posted by Phil_gretz
(Post 21973541)
There are three other subforums that would be better places to ask your question:
"The 33"-Road Bike Racing would be my first recommendation Masters Racing - All Disciplines would be second, and Road Cycling would be third. This general cycling subforum has a higher percentage of non-racers. |
Agree with Cat 5. Most of the 45+ riders will be 2's and 3's, and they will likely post faster laps. Also, they won't be happy with a squirrelly noob potentially wrecking them... although there's a good chance you'll be off the back in short order on your first race.
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As mentioned, don't let the Masters 45+ fool you, those guys are strong af. So unless you're really strong and just don't race a lot, I'd start with the Cat5 race and see how it goes.
I did my first (and only lol) road race last year in Cat 4/5, and did well. Same race is coming up again next month, I've improved enough (I'm not licensed, but would prob be a strong Cat3, maybe hit Cat2 with more focus/racing), so I'm going to do Masters this time (I'm 46), and it will def be a tough race. |
Originally Posted by Chris O
(Post 21973508)
Want to try my first race at age 46. The options for registering are Cat 5 or Masters (45+) with no cat options given for the masters. Which one do I sign up for?
Chris The masters race is going to be full of Cat 1s, 2s, maybe a former pro or two. Around here, the 45+ is almost always harder than the Cat 3 race. |
Originally Posted by superdex
(Post 21973533)
5. It will be hard enough.
Master 45+ will be 'open' which means you'll be blown off in just a few laps. A lot of races will let you sign up for multiple, so there's no harm in doing both, though if the Master's is first you may be too toasted for another race. |
Originally Posted by Rides4Beer
(Post 21973598)
As mentioned, don't let the Masters 45+ fool you, those guys are strong af. So unless you're really strong and just don't race a lot, I'd start with the Cat5 race and see how it goes.
I did my first (and only lol) road race last year in Cat 4/5, and did well. Same race is coming up again next month, I've improved enough (I'm not licensed, but would prob be a strong Cat3, maybe hit Cat2 with more focus/racing), so I'm going to do Masters this time (I'm 46), and it will def be a tough race. True story right there. Discipline and familiarity with suffering is all it takes to be faster. And natural talent. Incidentally, I thought about a user name change of “Pedals_for_Whisky” but it seemed like a ripoff. :D |
As others noted, the Masters race will be much, much faster and more difficult than you expect.
That said, do not expect Cat 5 to be a cake walk either. There may be some very strong guys showing up for their first races and blowing the field apart. But don't let that discourage you. The truth is, Cat 5 is where they have everyone start, and some people are legit Cat 1s or 2s doing their first races. As you race more and gain more experience with racing, you'll find out where you fit. Be sure to read through some of the beginner racer threads in the 33 Racing forum and check back to let us know how you do. |
Originally Posted by caloso
(Post 21973611)
I was in the exact same boat as you when I signed up for my first race, although it was M35+ Open. I thought "it's a bunch of old guys, how hard could it be?" Turned out, HELLA hard.
The masters race is going to be full of Cat 1s, 2s, maybe a former pro or two. Around here, the 45+ is almost always harder than the Cat 3 race. Masters racing (any age group) is filled with guys who are experienced racers with a crap-ton of miles in their legs, and sharp tactical savvy. M45+ would be a very rough place for a newbie to start. |
Originally Posted by caloso
(Post 21973611)
I was in the exact same boat as you when I signed up for my first race, although it was M35+ Open. I thought "it's a bunch of old guys, how hard could it be?" Turned out, HELLA hard.
The masters race is going to be full of Cat 1s, 2s, maybe a former pro or two. Around here, the 45+ is almost always harder than the Cat 3 race. There are a lot of fast old people out there. I theorize it is because (1) their kids have long since left home and (2) most marriages have grown comfortable, and so there is plenty of time to train. And since earnings tend to peak in the 50s, more money for gear and race fees. |
I agree that the masters race might be harder, but I believe that it might be safer. The more inexperienced guys you have in a pack the more disorganized and squirrely it will be. I would rather race with guys who know how to avoid trouble than a bunch of inexperienced people who may never have ridden in a pack before
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Originally Posted by alcjphil
(Post 21973861)
I agree that the masters race might be harder, but I believe that it might be safer. The more inexperienced guys you have in a pack the more disorganized and squirrely it will be. I would rather race with guys who know how to avoid trouble than a bunch of inexperienced people who may never have ridden in a pack before
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Originally Posted by alcjphil
(Post 21973861)
I agree that the masters race might be harder, but I believe that it might be safer. The more inexperienced guys you have in a pack the more disorganized and squirrely it will be. I would rather race with guys who know how to avoid trouble than a bunch of inexperienced people who may never have ridden in a pack before
Though as Eric F notes, it might only be a problem for a short time. |
Originally Posted by Koyote
(Post 21973945)
Well, that's one perspective. I think all of those Masters racers, confronted with a newbie racer, might have a different perspective.
Though as Eric F notes, it might only be a problem for a short time. |
Originally Posted by alcjphil
(Post 21974086)
It's true that experienced masters might show disapproval of an inexperienced beginner, but I will take a few harsh words over somebody who has no idea about how to hold his line in a pack taking me down when he cuts in front of me
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Originally Posted by alcjphil
(Post 21974086)
It's true that experienced masters might show disapproval of an inexperienced beginner, but I will take a few harsh words over somebody who has no idea about how to hold his line in a pack taking me down when he cuts in front of me
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Originally Posted by Rides4Beer
(Post 21973598)
As mentioned, don't let the Masters 45+ fool you, those guys are strong af. So unless you're really strong and just don't race a lot, I'd start with the Cat5 race and see how it goes.
In other words, I'd sooner race against Cat 5 in real life than other people my own age. |
Originally Posted by alcjphil
(Post 21974086)
It's true that experienced masters might show disapproval of an inexperienced beginner, but I will take a few harsh words over somebody who has no idea about how to hold his line in a pack taking me down when he cuts in front of me
Cat 5 exists for a reason: it is for "inexperienced beginner" racers. In other words, racers who are not "masters." |
Originally Posted by guachi
(Post 21974134)
I don't race in real life, just on Zwift. When I look at results on Zwift Power it's filled with old people (I'm 47) who are crazy strong. When I've had a good race or group ride I'll friend them and they're all in their 40s or 50s or even 60s when I check out their profile. One long Zwift group ride (Haute Route 2020 with a few thousand riders) when I bonked up a long hill I got caught by a woman who is in her 60s.
In other words, I'd sooner race against Cat 5 in real life than other people my own age. |
Originally Posted by Koyote
(Post 21974250)
You missed my point.
Cat 5 exists for a reason: it is for "inexperienced beginner" racers. In other words, racers who are not "masters." |
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