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genejockey 02-25-22 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by Mojo31 (Post 22421376)
Applying that ďlogicĒ, youíd have to drive the rear engine car backwards.

Nonetheless, there is nothing more satisfying than tooling along at a sedate 70, hitting the gas, and feeling that big butt squat down and push.

You don't HAVE to, but Porsche has spent A LOT reducing the relative mass of the hammerhead and/or moving that mass into the handle.

genejockey 02-25-22 05:31 PM


Originally Posted by Eric F (Post 22421381)
The magic of the older 911s is that when you hit the brakes to slow down in the middle of a corner, you're unweighting the rear end, which reduces your traction. Then, the heavy rear end tries to swap places with the front end. Traction control technology has largely minimized this issue.

Yes, I remember reading an article where someone was in a fast car being followed by a Porsche he couldn't shake. His copilot said, "Just speed up a little". Sure enough, the Porsche kept right up with him until the rear end suddenly let loose.

Mojo31 02-25-22 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22421382)
You don't HAVE to, but Porsche has spent A LOT reducing the relative mass of the hammerhead and/or moving that mass into the handle.

Well, the first thing they did to address it was develop an all wheel drive option. Then, the developed electronic systems that maintained power to the rear even when the throttle was lifted, among other things.

But, the 911s have retained a design that puts a lot of weight on or behind the rear wheels. Their is very little weight in front even in the modern cars if you stay away from the four wheel drive versions.

The Cayman is actually a better handling car that is much easier to drive fast with its mid-engine.

Mojo31 02-25-22 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by Eric F (Post 22421381)
The magic of the older 911s is that when you hit the brakes to slow down in the middle of a corner, you're unweighting the rear end, which reduces your traction. Then, the heavy rear end tries to swap places with the front end. Traction control technology has largely minimized this issue.

Its pretty hard to swap ends in a modern car. Unless you turn PSM off. Only idiots do that.

Mojo31 02-25-22 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22421383)
Yes, I remember reading an article where someone was in a fast car being followed by a Porsche he couldn't shake. His copilot said, "Just speed up a little". Sure enough, the Porsche kept right up with him until the rear end suddenly let loose.

Sounds like the P driver got asceered.

genejockey 02-25-22 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by Mojo31 (Post 22421387)
Well, the first thing they did to address it was develop an all wheel drive option. Then, the developed electronic systems that maintained power to the rear even when the throttle was lifted, among other things.

But, the 911s have retained a design that puts a lot of weight on or behind the rear wheels. Their is very little weight in front even in the modern cars if you stay away from the four wheel drive versions.

The Cayman is actually a better handling car that is much easier to drive fast with its mid-engine.

Consumers will never let them stop building 911s.

Eric F 02-25-22 05:44 PM


Originally Posted by Mojo31 (Post 22421387)
Well, the first thing they did to address it was develop an all wheel drive option. Then, the developed electronic systems that maintained power to the rear even when the throttle was lifted, among other things.

But, the 911s have retained a design that puts a lot of weight on or behind the rear wheels. Their is very little weight in front even in the modern cars if you stay away from the four wheel drive versions.

The Cayman is actually a better handling car that is much easier to drive fast with its mid-engine.

If I recall, Porsche's first all-wheel drive was the 959. Correct?

Eric F 02-25-22 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22421392)
Consumers will never let them stop building 911s.

I recall an article from many years ago talking about how there was a plan to end production of the 911, and the President of Porsche (might have been new to the job) basically said, "No. Porsche will AWLAYS build the 911".

Mojo31 02-25-22 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by Eric F (Post 22421394)
If I recall, Porsche's first all-wheel drive was the 959. Correct?

Yes, in 1986.

1998 964 C4 was the first mass produced car.

genejockey 02-25-22 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by Mojo31 (Post 22421388)
Its pretty hard to swap ends in a modern car. Unless you turn PSM off. Only idiots do that.

Idiots have access to power we never dreamed possible when I was a ute, AND they often have access to Traction Control off switches....

Mojo31 02-25-22 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by Eric F (Post 22421395)
I recall an article from many years ago talking about how there was a plan to end production of the 911, and the President of Porsche (might have been new to the job) basically said, "No. Porsche will AWLAYS build the 911".

The 928 was supposed to spell the end of the 911. They will never stop making it, but it has grown and changed a lot recently. The current 992 is a pretty big car, and dwarfs the air cooled models.

Mojo31 02-25-22 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22421399)
Idiots have access to power we never dreamed possible when I was a ute, AND they often have access to Traction Control off switches....

Hence endless videos of cars spinning out leaving Cars and Coffee events.

Mojo31 02-25-22 06:00 PM

Well, off to a non-vegetarian dinner at a steak house! Ciao.

Eric F 02-25-22 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by Mojo31 (Post 22421402)
Well, off to a non-vegetarian dinner at a steak house! Ciao.

I will be doing the same in a couple of hours. Kid is away. Date night with the wife! :)

genejockey 02-25-22 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by Mojo31 (Post 22421401)
Hence endless videos of cars spinning out leaving Cars and Coffee events.

Gazackly.

datlas 02-25-22 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by Eric F (Post 22421247)
So Cal is deep with places better than Chipotle. Where did you go?

Oh I went to a legit hole-in-the-wall place called Veroís on Orange Grove Blvd. It was yummy.

datlas 02-25-22 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by Eric F (Post 22421257)
I think he took a pic of the place for Velo Vol's benefit because it's vegetarian. I suspect he got a meaty burrito elsewhere.

Mostly correct. I did get a veg burrito but from Veroís as above.

datlas 02-25-22 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22421324)
Nah, he's not vegan - he's vegetarian, unless that's recently changed and I missed it.

Yup. I compromised and do sometimes eat dairy and/or eggs. No flesh.

datlas 02-25-22 06:16 PM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22421329)
But Vegan Cyclist LOVES Chipotle!

EDIT: , Dude!

Bro!

datlas 02-25-22 06:18 PM

Rode to the Rose Bowl and did a few circuits around it. I had high expectations, so my reaction was kinda meh.

genejockey 02-25-22 06:23 PM

Genuinely curious what The Older Boy will make for dinner tonight.

phrantic09 02-25-22 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by Mojo31 (Post 22421107)
My approach is all over the place, but I always start with a word containing two vowels and some combinations of the letters S, T, R and H. My theory is to throw out what I think are the most commonly used consonants.

Indy's friend's approach is rather weird, but that can be excused if she's really good looking. ;)

My wife uses the wheel of fortune RSTLNE approach and usually beats me

WhyFi 02-25-22 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22421420)
Yup. I compromised and do sometimes eat dairy and/or eggs. No flesh.

Speaking of Chipotle, did I see that they have a new veg chorizo or something? Have you tried it?

phrantic09 02-25-22 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22421420)
Yup. I compromised and do sometimes eat dairy and/or eggs. No flesh.

Speaking of- my buddy is going vegan after watching some documentary. Game Changers maybe?

phrantic09 02-25-22 06:36 PM

Iím considering some RH 35 extra lights vs 28s- I might be buying into the hype that theyíre just as fast. BRR has the 44EL as fast as a GP5K 32.

expensive experiment

datlas 02-25-22 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22421438)
Speaking of Chipotle, did I see that they have a new veg chorizo or something? Have you tried it?

Aware but have not tried. Willing to try, but TBH as a veg for 35+ years I donít really miss meat and not overly excited about fake vegetarian meat. I think those appeal more to newly veg and/or veg-curious.

datlas 02-25-22 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by phrantic09 (Post 22421439)
Speaking of- my buddy is going vegan after watching some documentary. Game Changers maybe?

That or maybe Forks over Knives?

phrantic09 02-25-22 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22421452)
That or maybe Forks over Knives?

we do a lot of plant based meals. Iím vegan curious but donít know if I could ditch cheese.

DougRNS 02-25-22 06:52 PM

I'm vegan tolerant.
#VegansArePeopleToo

genejockey 02-25-22 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by phrantic09 (Post 22421454)
we do a lot of plant based meals. Iím vegan curious but donít know if I could ditch cheese.

All our meals are plant based, at some level. :rolleyes:


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