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Pompiere 12-13-18 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by DQRider (Post 20702963)
Are you referring to pedal strikes on the shift cable? I always use a top-routing to avoid this. Unless it's a step-through, of course. But women tend to have smaller feet... :rolleyes:



I read it to mean pedal striking the pavement in the middle of a turn, since a fixed gear doesn't give you the option to keep the inside pedal up.

DQRider 12-13-18 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by noglider (Post 20702991)
No, he's talking about pedals hitting the ground during turns. It's a very bad thing to happen on a fixed gear. I don't know the answer to his question, though.


Originally Posted by Pompiere (Post 20703005)
I read it to mean pedal striking the pavement in the middle of a turn, since a fixed gear doesn't give you the option to keep the inside pedal up.


D'oh! Well, there's reason number 3,587 why it's not a good idea for me to try fixed gear. :eek:



noglider 12-13-18 12:12 PM

I say try it. I believe the Sports has a low BB, but to offset that, it also has short cranks.

Salubrious 12-13-18 02:40 PM

I saw a guy on a fixie dislocate his ankle due to a pedal strike.

raleighroadster 12-13-18 05:53 PM

Joined the superbe club today
 

gster 12-13-18 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by mtb_addict (Post 20702894)
Has anyone converted a Raliegh sport to "fixed gear" (like SA S3X hub)? I wonder how is it regarding pedal strikes?

Fixies are pure and simple racing bikes. A binary system,
on and off. Pedaling or stopping, nothing in between.
They are not suitable for everyday riding and are
not for novices . They are not forgiving.
They are a fad for the young and reckless, that has, thankfully, mostly passed.
I've said my piece and welcome any
counter arguments.

gster 12-13-18 07:59 PM

Looks like a nice, clean bike.
Saddle's worth $50.00 (to me).

clubman 12-13-18 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mtb_addict (Post 20702894)
Has anyone converted a Raliegh sport to "fixed gear" (like SA S3X hub)? I wonder how is it regarding pedal strikes?

An SA S3X isn't a typical fixed gear. Still, fixed wheel Sports make for a funtional bike, especially with better rims and tires. This '57 has alloy rims and Dunlop EA1 higher pressure tires. Pedal strike will only happen at very low speeds when swerving around an object.

Ballenxj 12-13-18 08:37 PM


Originally Posted by gster (Post 20703842)
They are a fad for the young and reckless, that has, thankfully, mostly passed.

Well, that leaves me out. Also explains why I see so many on Craigslist. I must admit I look at some of them with thoughts of turning them into internal geared hub bikes. :)
I know, I'm a sad case.

Buellster 12-13-18 09:11 PM

That franken gitane 3 speed I just picked up was being ridden as a single speed. Guy had no idea it could be anything else haha https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...95e1036ea2.jpg

BigChief 12-13-18 11:44 PM

I rode a fixie once. The feeling I got was similar to the time a friend let me ride his tank shift Harley. Went around the block once and was glad to get off and say I did that.

gster 12-14-18 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by Ballenxj (Post 20703890)
Well, that leaves me out. Also explains why I see so many on Craigslist. I must admit I look at some of them with thoughts of turning them into internal geared hub bikes. :)
I know, I'm a sad case.

I rode one for about 5 minutes in an empty parking lot 10 years ago.
I had some young (25) guys working with me who all had the "fixie bug".
They would come to work proudly displaying their various sustained injuries.
Eventually, three of them moved on to 3 speeds....

gster 12-15-18 10:38 AM

Clean Raleigh Folder
Listed at $120.00 here in Toronto.
Pump included!
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...2bfff3089b.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...11f6b9a090.jpg

clubman 12-15-18 12:34 PM

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The 'fixie' craze did some unfortunate damage to the reputation of fixed wheel riding. I commuted a great deal on a couple of models into my mid forties until my knees complained too much.

A proper track bike is a wonderful thing, especially on a track. I found the riding position a little too low/aggressive for urban street rides so I converted a road Sakai to fixed and learned to love it. It takes some getting used to but Sheldon's praise isn't unfounded. It can be a beautiful, effortless form of riding. You really become 'one with the bike'

Fixed riding is also common in the pro peleton during early spring training. It tends to smooth out your pedal stroke, it forces you to spin circles. This 51 Raleigh Sports came stock with a flip/flop hub, the SA IGH was an option.

rhm 12-15-18 05:56 PM


Originally Posted by mtb_addict (Post 20705815)
the late Sheldon Brown wrote highly of fixed gear riding. i have a Formula Track FG hub on the shelf. so i am going to give it a try, and build a FG 26" wheel. it should be a simple drop into the frame. i will report back. if i like it i might get a S3x hub too. but its not cheap.

i highly recommend giving a fixed gear bike a try. Sheldon's remarks are on target. It's hard to explain... Somehow a fixed gear is the purest form of cycling. It's the bicycling equivalent of fresh water, black coffee, neat scotch.

When I ride a fixed gear bike, average speed goes up by almost a mile per hour (something like 14 mph to 15 mph). The fixed gear won't let you relax... but do you need to relax? You can relax when you get home. I'm not saying that as praise; but there it is.

I cannot give the S3X such high praise. It combines a fixed gear experience with a three speed experience, but somehow it misses the best aspect of both. It's both worlds, but it's not the best of both worlds.

Dan Burkhart 12-15-18 08:46 PM


Originally Posted by rhm (Post 20706267)
I cannot give the S3X such high praise. It combines a fixed gear experience with a three speed experience, but somehow it misses the best aspect of both. It's both worlds, but it's not the best of both worlds.

Perhaps not, but my S3X is what makes fixed gear riding doable for me.I don't know what your issues are, but what I hear from some committed fixie riders is that they simply do not like the gear lash which is amplified at the crank arms. Not a deal breaker for me, and I'll take a couple of lower ratios to help on the hills.

raleighroadster 12-15-18 09:10 PM


Originally Posted by gster (Post 20705766)
Clean Raleigh Folder
Listed at $120.00 here in Toronto.
Pump included!
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...2bfff3089b.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...11f6b9a090.jpg

you are not saying $120 Canadian ? That is $90 usd!

gster 12-15-18 09:20 PM


Originally Posted by raleighroadster (Post 20706444)

you are not saying $120 Canadian ? That is $90 usd!

Correct.

raleighroadster 12-15-18 09:38 PM


Originally Posted by gster (Post 20706451)
Correct.


wow, wish I were closer to Toronto . Only getting as far w as Albany on wed!

nlerner 12-16-18 12:02 PM

23" men's Sports in bronze green for small money in the Boston area:

https://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/bi...773449437.html

https://images.craigslist.org/01414_...8I_600x450.jpg

BigChief 12-16-18 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by nlerner (Post 20706981)

Boy, that's a good deal. 1966, 67, around there I think. Tall frame. Hard to see in the tiny pic, but it doesn't appear to be a rust bucket. Looks like a good one.

mirfi 12-16-18 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by gster (Post 20706451)
Correct.

Nice

SirMike1983 12-16-18 07:44 PM

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BigChief 12-16-18 09:53 PM

@SirMike1983 Brilliant. This bike turned out especially well. I do have a couple of questions. I also need to gear down these old roadsters a bit to be able to enjoy riding them. With my 51 Rudge, I chose to swap in a NOS 50s straight leg splined driver into the otherwise original hub. I see yours has a large cog. How did you handle the modification? Thank you for the closeup picture of the grip. By any chance, were these in place on the bike when you found it? If not, you did a heroic job of finding suitable replacements. To the best of my knowledge, these are very similar to what would have been on a 1930s rod braked roadster originally. Vintage handlebar grips are an exceedingly difficult subject to research. Apparently, the early natural rubber and celluloid grips were fragile compared to modern plastics and we don't have the benefit of many still existing examples to reference, so I'd like to know more about these.

markk900 12-17-18 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by BigChief (Post 20707618)
With my 51 Rudge, I chose to swap in a NOS 50s straight leg splined driver into the otherwise original hub. I see yours has a large cog. How did you handle the modification?

@BigChief: I dropped a "circlip" style driver into the 49 Humber with no issues at all....later to solve a skipping issue in 1st gear (after replacing almost every part in that dang hub) I put the guts of a NOS 70s hub into the same shell and never looked back.


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