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adventurepdx 04-20-21 08:53 PM


Originally Posted by Unca_Sam (Post 22023580)
Wasn't one of those listed in the sale section?

FOUND IT

Well, it's more "spot one in the wild" than actually own one right now, I don't need another bike.
Plus, the price is a little too rich for my tastes.
Double plus, it's too big.
Triple plus: The post is from two years ago.

jackbombay 04-20-21 10:38 PM


Originally Posted by adventurepdx (Post 22024008)
Triple plus: The post is from two years ago.

He did post recently and still has 2 for sale though, but, yea, too big is a deal breaker no matter what.

vintagebicycle 04-21-21 12:20 AM


Originally Posted by Unca_Sam (Post 22022893)
I've been meaning to share this here. I'd be happy to learn more about the hub. Obviously neglected at some point, but the wheels look rideable from here.
$100 1967 Raleigh Sprite 3+2
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...0a0f0a287d.jpg
Indicator left
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...4901ddc864.jpg
Indicator right
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f3f33d0fcc.jpg
3+2 speed Hub?

There was one just like this, only in much nicer condition on CL here all last summer for $40 with no takers. I finally emailed the guy and got it for $20. It was 6 miles away from my house.
Its been converted to twin trigger shifters but came with the original SA levers like on this bike as well.
I only bought it for the rims, figuring I could use a minty set of Raleigh rims on something else, but never got around to it. I've actually started to use it on occasion because mine came with folding rear saddle baskets and a small basket in the front. For some reason it fits me better than my Sports, its a 21" frame but it sits taller and I get better leg extension somehow.
Mine came with a Brooks saddle, which I promptly sold online. Its got a Messinger cruiser saddle on it now but I have a period correct padded Brooks to put on it.
I've been meaning to dig it out and go through it real well but never have. I've just been using it as found for the last 15 or so years. I'm sure the BB and hubs could use some fresh grease by now. Its likely just going to become my loaner bike if I ever get around to going over it properly. I think its even still got its original tires on it.

cudak888 04-21-21 07:44 AM


Originally Posted by vintagebicycle (Post 22024133)
There was one just like this, only in much nicer condition on CL here all last summer for $40 with no takers. I finally emailed the guy and got it for $20. It was 6 miles away from my house.
Its been converted to twin trigger shifters but came with the original SA levers like on this bike as well.

I've found that ladies' pre-27", IGH S5 Sprites - especially in rough shape - do not pull a premium over a similar ladies' Sports.

In fact, they may run cheaper because of the likeliness of the plastic S5 shifters (if not replaced with the metal versions) to crack and the lack of documentation and name recognition vs. the 3-speeds.

I'm not sure if this also applies to the men's models. They're basically identical to a later 1970's 5-speed Superbe, but again - without the name recognition.


Originally Posted by gster (Post 22023647)

That is a gorgeous burgundy Raleigh Sprite. Got a picture of that whole beauty?

-Kurt

dweenk 04-21-21 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by thumpism (Post 22023751)

That's about one hour away from me. If I bought them, my wife would shoot me and be justified for doing so.

thumpism 04-21-21 10:04 AM


Originally Posted by dweenk (Post 22024609)
That's about one hour away from me. If I bought them, my wife would shoot me and be justified for doing so.

Pick 'em and bring 'em to me. I won't tell my wife and everyone will be happy.

gster 04-21-21 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by cudak888 (Post 22024380)
I've found that ladies' pre-27", IGH S5 Sprites - especially in rough shape - do not pull a premium over a similar ladies' Sports.

In fact, they may run cheaper because of the likeliness of the plastic S5 shifters (if not replaced with the metal versions) to crack and the lack of documentation and name recognition vs. the 3-speeds.

I'm not sure if this also applies to the men's models. They're basically identical to a later 1970's 5-speed Superbe, but again - without the name recognition.



That is a gorgeous burgundy Raleigh Sprite. Got a picture of that whole beauty?

-Kurt

This bike originally had the plastic shifters that I replaced.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...5cc240d48c.png
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f8788ce791.png
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a349656f44.png
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...69183ede95.png

cudak888 04-21-21 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by gster (Post 22024657)
This bike originally had the plastic shifters that I replaced.

I figured it was a plastic-shifter substitute - I wouldn't be surprised if most steel-shifter early Sprites out there didn't start out as such.

She's an absolute beaut. Kudos for keeping her up so nicely. I'm a sucker for Rudge Maroon on a Raleigh.

-Kurt

gster 04-21-21 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by cudak888 (Post 22024686)
I figured it was a plastic-shifter substitute - I wouldn't be surprised if most steel-shifter early Sprites out there didn't start out as such.

She's an absolute beaut. Kudos for keeping her up so nicely. I'm a sucker for Rudge Maroon on a Raleigh.

-Kurt

Thanks
It doesn't get out that much..
It's a "show" bike...

cudak888 04-22-21 07:43 AM

Fifty-buck Raleigh Sports and Sprites in New Hampshire:

https://nh.craigslist.org/bik/d/tilt...308529370.html

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...bf51f972d4.jpg

-Kurt

jamesdak 04-22-21 07:58 AM

Well, after years and years of not finding an old school Guv'nor with rod brakes and all I finally broke down several months ago and bought a new one. Totally not C&V but still based on the original 1930's design. Surprised when it showed up without a round tube crowned fork and wondered if Pashley made a mistake. Emailed an inquiry and they said that they've updated to fork but with all the COVID mess hadn't updated the specs on the webpage. Seriously relaxed angles. I have the Brooks pushed all the way forward on the seatpost and it's still farther back off the BB then any of my bikes. The wheelbase is more than 5" longer than the one on the 56cm De Rosa I just took in.

Beautiful bike and the first 9 mile shakedown was a joy. Hopefully it's ok to share it here as I spend most of my time on the C&V forum.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f67e60e1e0.jpg
Saddle has been moved forward since this picture was taken.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...22d7c3e5d7.jpg
Pretty place to lay your hands.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a6c7ee70ee.jpg
Pinstriping on the rims, cool!

cudak888 04-22-21 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by jamesdak (Post 22026026)
Surprised when it showed up without a round tube crowned fork

Can't tell from the picture, but it's different from this crown? Would love to see a pic.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...6a5d3124f4.jpg


-Kurt

BFisher 04-22-21 08:04 AM

@jamesdak, so cool. It may not be vintage, but I'd call that a classic. And with those drum brakes you don't have to worry about marring up those nice pinstriped rims.

These slack old roadsters have style and comfort for miles. Enjoy that beauty.

jamesdak 04-22-21 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by cudak888 (Post 22026035)
Can't tell from the picture, but it's different from this crown? Would love to see a pic.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...6a5d3124f4.jpg


-Kurt

Yep, here's what it came with. Looking at their site it looks like the fork they are using on the more expensive Morgan 3. I guess this will be the new norm for the Guv'nor. Sorry for the crappy cellphone shots, these are what i grabbed las night to send to Pashley when I was asking them about this. They were quick to respond as the reply was waiting when I woke up this morning.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ec191a0b9c.jpg
Totally blown out exposure but it shows the difference.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a1d66f0764.jpg
Oop, looks like missed some wax there when I buffed it out, LOL!

cudak888 04-22-21 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by jamesdak (Post 22026119)
Yep, here's what it came with. Looking at their site it looks like the fork they are using on the more expensive Morgan 3. I guess this will be the new norm for the Guv'nor. Sorry for the crappy cellphone shots, these are what i grabbed las night to send to Pashley when I was asking them about this. They were quick to respond as the reply was waiting when I woke up this morning.

Totally blown out exposure but it shows the difference.

Oop, looks like missed some way there when I buffed it out, LOL!

I like it - it looks like a proper crown from an early turn-of-the-century machine and not another Raleigh ripoff.

-Kurt

jamesdak 04-22-21 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by BFisher (Post 22026038)
@jamesdak, so cool. It may not be vintage, but I'd call that a classic. And with those drum brakes you don't have to worry about marring up those nice pinstriped rims.

These slack old roadsters have style and comfort for miles. Enjoy that beauty.

Yep,I got this for those days I just want to meander along and enjoy the ride vs working out on one of my road bikes.

Some more pics to show the details.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...4314b64a24.jpg
Bolted on seat stays
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...28a36e4215.jpg
S/A 3 speed
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...0883d847bd.jpg
I think it's a pretty crank
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f4f3a8a16e.jpg
Drum Brakes
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8fd13e88f9.jpg
Surprised how light the titanium B17 felt compared to all my normal Brooks.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...6f2d6657fe.jpg
Now that's a Name!
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...74b1c7dcef.jpg
Beefy lugs
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...4c879f87fa.jpg
Simple but I do like the looks. May play with the angle of the bars to get optimum comfort
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...5bb1f8770b.jpg
Gotta have the bell.

Guess I am "stepping back" a bit with this and my other new purchase. I've sold off close to 20 of the road bikes and on top of this I have a sweet Azor step through Dutch bike on order to be my utility type ride. Big departure from all my steel racers but I've been missing what my old AMF Hercules gave me in terms of carrying capacity in an upright position. The Azor will fill that need and more.

jamesdak 04-22-21 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by cudak888 (Post 22026123)
I like it - it looks like a proper crown from an early turn-of-the-century machine and not another Raleigh ripoff.

-Kurt

i do too. In fact I was digging the fork the first day as I put the bike together and it didn't dawn on me until last night that it wasn't what the bike was advertised as coming with. This crown is drilled so that gives some fender/rack capability and looks like it's setup for and internal wire from a dyno hub to a light.

vintagebicycle 04-22-21 01:21 PM

The Raleigh Nottingham England 5 Speed


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...01e4d6fce8.jpg


This popped up a little while ago, about a half hour from Philly.
Looks like a small, 20.5" frame

gster 04-22-21 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by jamesdak (Post 22026142)
Yep,I got this for those days I just want to meander along and enjoy the ride vs working out on one of my road bikes.

Some more pics to show the details.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...4314b64a24.jpg
Bolted on seat stays
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...28a36e4215.jpg
S/A 3 speed
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...0883d847bd.jpg
I think it's a pretty crank
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f4f3a8a16e.jpg
Drum Brakes
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8fd13e88f9.jpg
Surprised how light the titanium B17 felt compared to all my normal Brooks.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...6f2d6657fe.jpg
Now that's a Name!
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...74b1c7dcef.jpg
Beefy lugs
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...4c879f87fa.jpg
Simple but I do like the looks. May play with the angle of the bars to get optimum comfort
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...5bb1f8770b.jpg
Gotta have the bell.

Guess I am "stepping back" a bit with this and my other new purchase. I've sold off close to 20 of the road bikes and on top of this I have a sweet Azor step through Dutch bike on order to be my utility type ride. Big departure from all my steel racers but I've been missing what my old AMF Hercules gave me in terms of carrying capacity in an upright position. The Azor will fill that need and more.

I always wanted a Guv'nor but could never justify the cost...
I'm a bit jealous...
just sayin'

BFisher 04-22-21 07:13 PM

Dunelt Roadster in NJ: https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...tory_type=post

https://scontent.fagc1-2.fna.fbcdn.n...a2&oe=60A6574E

jamesdak 04-22-21 08:14 PM


Originally Posted by gster (Post 22027086)
I always wanted a Guv'nor but could never justify the cost...
I'm a bit jealous...
just sayin'

I wouldn't have done it if I hadn't freed up so much cash selling off a bunch of bikes. And of course, a year of Covid keeping me more at home sure helped the bank account. ;) Just had it back out after making some fit adjustments and it's even better now.

vintagebicycle 04-23-21 12:39 AM

Another one in NJ:

Raleigh Sports - 3 speed - 23" frame



https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...928cbc9915.jpg

23" frame and pretty clean looking going by the one pic.
Looks like later 70's model.

Ballenxj 04-23-21 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by jamesdak (Post 22026026)
Well, after years and years of not finding an old school Guv'nor with rod brakes and all I finally broke down several months ago and bought a new one. Totally not C&V but still based on the original 1930's design. Surprised when it showed up without a round tube crowned fork and wondered if Pashley made a mistake. Emailed an inquiry and they said that they've updated to fork but with all the COVID mess hadn't updated the specs on the webpage. Seriously relaxed angles. I have the Brooks pushed all the way forward on the seatpost and it's still farther back off the BB then any of my bikes. The wheelbase is more than 5" longer than the one on the 56cm De Rosa I just took in.

Beautiful bike and the first 9 mile shakedown was a joy. Hopefully it's ok to share it here as I spend most of my time on the C&V forum.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f67e60e1e0.jpg
Saddle has been moved forward since this picture was taken.

Pretty place to lay your hands.

Pinstriping on the rims, cool!

Curious, where did you find this in the U.S.? Link would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. :)

jamesdak 04-23-21 07:53 AM


Originally Posted by Ballenxj (Post 22027684)
Curious, where did you find this in the U.S.? Link would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. :)

Ordered it from Loring at

https://www.britishbicycle.com/


Pashley is quoting a longer time for delivery on their site than mine actually took. It was like 3 1/2 months from when I ordered to when the bike was delivered.

Ballenxj 04-23-21 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by jamesdak (Post 22027687)
Ordered it from Loring at

https://www.britishbicycle.com/


Pashley is quoting a longer time for delivery on their site than mine actually took. It was like 3 1/2 months from when I ordered to when the bike was delivered.

Thanks for the rapid response. WOW! They aren't cheap are they?


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