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1000MPH 09-10-14 10:57 PM


Originally Posted by auchencrow (Post 17108309)
Good looker and a good size, @1000MPH. A veritable garage queen.
(And high time someone bumped this thread! )

Thanks. I just ordered a Brooks B72 for it now that I intend to ride it more often. Gotta love Amazon.

auchencrow 09-11-14 06:43 AM


Originally Posted by 1000MPH (Post 17119975)
Thanks. I just ordered a Brooks B72 for it now that I intend to ride it more often. Gotta love Amazon.

Wise move. That saddle will look terrific on your bike... I recall that my old Sports came with a FUJI branded sprung mattress saddle - even more inappropriate, but I stumbled on a period Wrights saddle for cheap .. It made a BIG difference.

The day I found it: :rolleyes:
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...rts1953005.jpg

loubapache 09-11-14 06:44 AM


Originally Posted by SirMike1983 (Post 17108975)
Does anyone offhand know the spoke length from a modern Sturmey Archer 3 speed to a Sun CR18 ISO 590mm rim? Pattern is 36 cross 3. I did a calc and it ran 275-ish. Anyone think that sounds right?

That is very close.

I used the original Sturney Archer spokes with length of 10-7/8" (276 mm) for all my CR18 (590 mm) builds. That length is very versatile for these wheels with various holes. I got a lot of 1000 of these and have been using for several years.

rhm 09-11-14 08:32 AM

Hey guys, a technical AW question for you!

My hub slips occasionally in high gear. After I've been pedaling in high gear for a half minute or so, it will skip forward a little, like one notch. Evidently a pawl has slipped, and it invariably catches again on the next notch. I can prevent it from skipping if I remember to stop pedaling for an instant before it happens, but it's a pain in the neck to do this, and I often forget. So I'd rather just fix it.

The 1956 Sturmey Archer "fault finding chart" mentions four possible problems:
1. Pinion pins or sliding clutch badly worn due to bad adjustment.
2. Very weak or distorted axle spring.
3. Incorrect R. H. cone adjustment.
4. Grit between clutch sleeve and axle.

So, regarding this,
1. I know what the pinion pins and sliding clutch are. I have spares, from other hubs, but they might be equally worn or even worse. Anyone have any advice how to check them for wear?
2. But what's the axle spring? The exploded diagram doesn't have anything by that name. Am I to assume they mean the clutch spring?

loubapache 09-11-14 08:36 AM

K530A is that spring. It does fatigue and a new one is pretty inexpensive.

How tight is your cable? Maybe loosen it up just a tad?

rhm 09-11-14 08:43 AM

Cool, thanks. It should be easy enough to compare the springs I have on hand and pick the strongest one. I don't think it's the cable adjustment; I've changed that enough times, and this problem has been going on longer.

SirMike1983 09-11-14 08:57 PM

Thank you, that's the length I ended up getting. 275 was a "specialty" length, so I just rounded up to 276, which sounds like it will be functional.


Originally Posted by loubapache (Post 17120379)
That is very close.

I used the original Sturney Archer spokes with length of 10-7/8" (276 mm) for all my CR18 (590 mm) builds. That length is very versatile for these wheels with various holes. I got a lot of 1000 of these and have been using for several years.


wahoonc 09-14-14 06:51 AM


Originally Posted by 1000MPH (Post 17108255)
My 70's ('71-'72?) Malaysian built Raleigh Sports. All original except the tires, tubes, bearings, and grips.

Does that bike have a hub date? I have one too, but no hub date. Mine is a bit more worn.

Aaron :)

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7441/...f7c0982f_c.jpg

1000MPH 09-14-14 09:02 AM

It looks like this is a date stamp but it's not in the usual location.
Looks like 71 / 11 to me but I have no idea.

http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...5&d=1410111095

Sixty Fiver 09-14-14 09:04 AM

Dawes Kingpin with a little custom work and powder... built this for a friend's 10 year old daughter.

http://www.ravingbikefiend.com/bikep...pin%20(17).JPG

It has a new AWC rear hub...

http://www.ravingbikefiend.com/bikep...pin%20(23).JPG

She will never need another bike...

clubman 09-14-14 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver (Post 17128662)
Dawes Kingpin with a little custom work and powder... built this for a friend's 10 year old daughter.

http://www.ravingbikefiend.com/bikep...pin%20(17).JPG

It has a new AWC rear hub...

She will never need another bike...

I always liked those Kingpins and that's just pristine! Nice

noglider 09-14-14 09:35 AM

Well, it's English, and it's a three-speed, but it's not an English three-speed.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-r...2014.15.47.jpg

Sixty Fiver 09-14-14 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by clubman (Post 17128705)
I always liked those Kingpins and that's just pristine! Nice

The 24 inch wheel conversion required some frame work and a new fork... but it was nothing extreme to do relative to some other projects I have done. The original 500A wheels and tyres were far too obscure to be practical so I opted for a more common size.

The Kingpin is a really nice bicycle with a well made frame and very nice hinge mechanism, and it is fairly light too.

arex 09-14-14 10:23 AM

Not usually a fan of purple, but that's really beautiful.



Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver (Post 17128662)
Dawes Kingpin with a little custom work and powder... built this for a friend's 10 year old daughter.

http://www.ravingbikefiend.com/bikep...pin%20(17).JPG

It has a new AWC rear hub...

http://www.ravingbikefiend.com/bikep...pin%20(23).JPG

She will never need another bike...


JohnDThompson 09-14-14 10:53 AM


Originally Posted by 1000MPH (Post 17128656)
It looks like this is a date stamp but it's not in the usual location.
Looks like 71 / 11 to me but I have no idea.

http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...5&d=1410111095

I'd go with '71 as well. By 1974, AW hubs had ribbed shells rather than smooth shells.

http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/sa-ribber-shell.jpg

ascherer 09-14-14 06:23 PM

On this glorious day I rode my Raleigh a few miles up the Hudson River to Jeffrey's Hook, where stands the Little Red Lighthouse, tucked under the East tower of the George Washington Bridge. I've been playing around with Photosphere, so here's a 360-degree panorama of my '66 Sports at the lighthouse: https://www.google.com/maps/views/vi...78297380603282

adventurepdx 09-24-14 12:24 AM

And...the next Three Speed Ride in Portland is happening on Saturday October 11, 2014!
Full details here:
Three Speed Ride: Saturday 11 October | Society Of Three Speeds
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5584/...dd870d0858.jpg

smontanaro 09-24-14 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by adventurepdx (Post 17157565)
And...the next Three Speed Ride in Portland is happening on Saturday October 11, 2014!

Added to the Vintage Cycling Events calendar. (Note that the calendar's time zone is Central time, so it shows up as a noon start.)

Salubrious 09-24-14 10:47 AM

Speaking of Paul Bunyan, I'm hoping this weekend to do a 3-speed ride up the Paul Bunyan trail in Minnesota. I will probably start at Nisswa and go to Pine River, about 22 miles. Should be some fall colors up there somewhere!

adventurepdx 09-24-14 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by smontanaro (Post 17157971)
Added to the Vintage Cycling Events calendar. (Note that the calendar's time zone is Central time, so it shows up as a noon start.)

Thanks, Skip! I have the Vintage Cycling Events calendar embedded in my Google Calendar, so it shows the correct time zone there. Though I doubt will be done by 2 PM PDT/4 PM CDT. :rolleyes:

rhm 09-24-14 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by SirMike1983 (Post 17108975)
Does anyone offhand know the spoke length from a modern Sturmey Archer 3 speed to a Sun CR18 ISO 590mm rim? Pattern is 36 cross 3. I did a calc and it ran 275-ish. Anyone think that sounds right?

Yes, that sounds right. Get them a little shorter, 273 or so.

Howard 09-24-14 03:51 PM

Replaced the tires on the Hercules in the last couple of weeks. About 4000 miles, zero flats, mostly commuting/city riding on the Kenda K40's, the cord started to show. Pleased with these. Care to guess what I replaced them with? (Hint, it's the same thing)

Narhay 09-24-14 05:56 PM

Some of my spoke nipples were rusted and cracked. If anyone is rebuilding their wheels but wishes to keep the spokes as I did, these spoke nipples are what I used:

DT Swiss Brass Spoke Nipple 14G (2.0 x 12mm), Box of 100

noglider 09-24-14 06:07 PM

Those are the best nipples I've ever used and are well worth any extra you pay.

Velognome 09-24-14 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by noglider (Post 17128734)
Well, it's English, and it's a three-speed, but it's not an English three-speed.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-r...2014.15.47.jpg

Holy Chainrings Noglider...is that a 64T or are my eyes deceiving me?

noglider 09-24-14 07:47 PM

Heh. @Velognome, it's a 52T chainring and a 16T cog. It does look big, and I love the way it looks. The whole bike is so sprightly, I guess because it's light and has fat-ish tires (32mm). Since the hub only steps down, by gear inches are 55, 66, and 88. The cranks are a tiny 155mm, which I expected to feel weird, but they don't at all.

ascherer 10-01-14 05:24 PM

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My wife and I rolled our Raleighs up the Hudson River Greenway to the Little Red Lighthouse under the George Washington Bridge this past Sunday. A perfect adventure.

noglider 10-01-14 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by ascherer (Post 17179301)
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=409391

My wife and I rolled our Raleighs up the Hudson River Greenway to the Little Red Lighthouse under the George Washington Bridge this past Sunday. A perfect adventure.

You're making me regret shipping my three-speeds to Florida. I think I have to modify one of my remaining bikes to be slower and relaxeder.

ascherer 10-01-14 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by noglider (Post 17179436)
You're making me regret shipping my three-speeds to Florida. I think I have to modify one of my remaining bikes to be slower and relaxeder.

I love 'em on the Greenway, Tom. Relaxder is the right word, another bike would make it a different experience. All the Stravaboys are huffing along trying to pass, and we're just: smile, smile, smile!

I use the Sports all around town when I'm not commuting. I've got folding baskets on mine for shopping, it's just right for tootling around Manhattan. Mine's a '66 and Adina's is a '72 Ladies with a wicker basket on the bars. They go together nicely.

arex 10-02-14 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by ascherer (Post 17179551)
I love 'em on the Greenway, Tom. Relaxder is the right word, another bike would make it a different experience. All the Stravaboys are huffing along trying to pass, and we're just: smile, smile, smile!

I use the Sports all around town when I'm not commuting. I've got folding baskets on mine for shopping, it's just right for tootling around Manhattan. Mine's a '66 and Adina's is a '72 Ladies with a wicker basket on the bars. They go together nicely.

This has me itching to get mine finished. Money's been tight lately.


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