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jackbombay 02-11-20 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by gster (Post 21323860)
Spotted in a junk shop here in Toronto that's
rarely open...
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...cb8425ab48.jpg
It's fairly modern....

USA?!?!?

If it said "The Raleigh" and "Nottingham" on it I'd be driving there to get it now! But I imagine you'd have already purchased it.

gster 02-11-20 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by jackbombay (Post 21324020)
USA?!?!?

If it said "The Raleigh" and "Nottingham" on it I'd be driving there to get it now! But I imagine you'd have already purchased it.

Yeah, depends on the price...
He's not been open much lately.
I've bought a few items off of him over the last 30+ years,
including this Eastman saddle for an Eastman bike.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...fd9bcda2f7.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1c27fc6160.jpg

thumpism 02-12-20 11:29 AM

Okay, I visited the co-op last night and had the opportunity to look in one of their storage containers right after a big donation from a warehouse nearby. Saw these rod brakes and knew I had to post it here. This bike is really buried but I was able to see that the front wheel is not correct (700C QR) and front pads are missing but everything else looks okay. Men's 22" frame and a cheap mattress saddle instead of a Brooks. I can follow up if anyone is interested.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...907976724e.jpg

gster 02-12-20 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by thumpism (Post 21325055)
Okay, I visited the co-op last night and had the opportunity to look in one of their storage containers right after a big donation from a warehouse nearby. Saw these rod brakes and knew I had to post it here. This bike is really buried but I was able to see that the front wheel is not correct (700C QR) and front pads are missing but everything else looks okay. Men's 22" frame and a cheap mattress saddle instead of a Brooks. I can follow up if anyone is interested.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...907976724e.jpg

It's like King Tut's Tomb.....

thumpism 02-12-20 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by gster (Post 21325254)
It's like King Tut's Tomb.....

I wish. Carter's famous quote when Carnarvon asked what he saw through the first opening in the tomb was, "Wonderful things!" This place, not so much. Even with light there was only so much I could see and most was pretty mundane. I keep hoping I'll find something on my list and when I show up I always tell them I'm looking for treasures.

arty dave 02-13-20 04:21 PM

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...7d786e60ea.jpgW.L.SOON - Maybe this will help you with your cam lever - when I first got my DL-1 I had to modify a new cam arm. I needed to rotate the square hole through 45 degrees to match the orientation of the missing original cam lever. I had a friend fill the hole with weld, then drilled it out and filed it square in the new orientation. The threaded part of the rod you can see in the last photo has also been welded on, as that part had broken off before I bought the bike.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3d694dfc05.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...517b013291.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...98dba9aefd.jpg

gster 02-15-20 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by arty dave (Post 21326848)
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...7d786e60ea.jpgW.L.SOON - Maybe this will help you with your cam lever - when I first got my DL-1 I had to modify a new cam arm. I needed to rotate the square hole through 45 degrees to match the orientation of the missing original cam lever. I had a friend fill the hole with weld, then drilled it out and filed it square in the new orientation. The threaded part of the rod you can see in the last photo has also been welded on, as that part had broken off before I bought the bike.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3d694dfc05.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...517b013291.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...98dba9aefd.jpg

Well done.

thumpism 02-15-20 07:49 AM

^ I'd bet it uses 700C wheels, frequently known as "28 inch" elsewhere.

W.L.SOON 02-15-20 08:49 AM

Hi Arty Dave.
 
Hello Arty Dave. Thanks for sharing. Yes,that has been what I'm considering as well. Would you by any chance remember what model is your new cam lever that you used to modify? Is it a HSB 408? Any possibilty you know of/have taken photo of the back of the cam lever? Are the numbers 3612463 back there?

Thank you again. Do you have any photos of the rear brake linkage lower bell-crank area? These are virtually non-existent for sale anywhere.......
Thanks.

Sincerely,
W.L.SOON,Malaysia

Senrab62 02-15-20 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by mtb_addict (Post 21328563)
i found this advertisement in Taoboa.
since i am in e. Asia now, i have tempted to order one. Only $150 US.!!!
Looks like nicely lugged frame and classic 28 635 wheels.

looks like only available in Asia.


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...27387259fa.png

I'm certain it's hi-ten, but for $150 I'd buy one for sure! Any other specs?

thumpism 02-16-20 07:00 AM

These things look brand new.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...9212736535380/

https://scontent.fric1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...6f&oe=5F0199DB

FBOATSB 02-16-20 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by brianhamp (Post 21330008)
I'm not sure. I have never been to one before. I don't want to buy new, I would like to see Vintage bikes.
Thanks for the link. I will try to find out more about it...
Brian


QUOTE=FBOATSB;21329975]Is this the one?
https://www.bicycleshowtoronto.com/

[/QUOTE]
Sorry, I think the one you want was in July last year, might not be scheduled yet. It was sponsored by: Bike Pirates | A DIY bike shop
Someone in Toronto will surely chime in here. I'm obviously unqualified by distance:o
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8cce180e11.png

gster 02-16-20 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by brianhamp (Post 21330060)
Sorry, I think the one you want was in July last year, might not be scheduled yet. It was sponsored by: Bike Pirates | A DIY bike shop
Someone in Toronto will surely chime in here. I'm obviously unqualified by distance:o
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8cce180e11.png

That is exactly what I;m looking for... Thank you so much....[/QUOTE]
Yes, that was last year's show and I'm the organizer with Bike Pirates as the host.
No firm plans for this year but generally held on the last Sunday in July.
As soon as I have some details I will post here.

interceptor 02-16-20 05:22 PM

I think I am done.....for now.....
 
I think I'm done...just added a new Kiley Headlamp.
Hmmmmmmmm...maybe a rear rack??
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...bfd32e4ef5.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a62217335f.jpg

Ballenxj 02-16-20 05:30 PM

Bikepirates have apparently moved, and have not updated their website since. Bike Pirates | A DIY bike shop

arty dave 02-16-20 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by W.L.SOON (Post 21328648)
Hello Arty Dave. Thanks for sharing. Yes,that has been what I'm considering as well. Would you by any chance remember what model is your new cam lever that you used to modify? Is it a HSB 408? Any possibilty you know of/have taken photo of the back of the cam lever? Are the numbers 3612463 back there?

Thank you again. Do you have any photos of the rear brake linkage lower bell-crank area? These are virtually non-existent for sale anywhere.......
Thanks.

Sincerely,
W.L.SOON,Malaysia

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1be4f2a909.jpg

Hi W.L. I'm currently moving house, but will see what I can do, I may be able to get a photo of the rear linkage bell-crank this afternoon. I did use part hsb 408 on the front drum, but as you can see this is not the same cam arm used on the rear drum brake. It looks like HSB 220 is the part you need.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...9af11abf12.jpg

W.L.SOON 02-16-20 10:34 PM

Thanks Dave!👍
 
Hi Dave,thank you for taking the trouble.
My rear hub brake has the correct arm. It is just the front one. So ok,let me get this straight:you mean that the HSB 408 is not the CORRECT fit for our front brakes? It will fit on but the angle will be incorrect,is that it? That is why you had to have it welded and redone the hole to get the correct angle?

As for the rear hub brake,I am lacking the rear lower bell-crank and the adjoining threaded rod to pull the rear brake lever. Were these parts never sold as spares/replacements,but only came with the bike back in those days?🤔

Thank you Dave. All the best!😀👍

52telecaster 02-17-20 02:07 AM

Now this isnt English and technically not a 3 speed, but starting out on an old 3 speed when I was very young makes me do stuff like this now and then.

Its an 84 chromoloy schwinn traveler with a 54 alloy aw hub. Inverted mustache bars, because thats what i had, a shimano dynamo hub and old fenders I got at my local coop. The brooks is an old spare I had and the gear ratios are 24-34-42 up front. 21 in back. Top gear of 72 inches. I used the stock brakes, derailleurs and crank, but changed the chainrings. I ride other ridiculous bikes but this is going to fun.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...755d667d0d.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...337c530deb.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...73cb37d978.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...07f4620168.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...9f3814e303.jpg

hobbs1951 02-17-20 02:58 AM

World Cup Superbe.
 
Interesting thread guys, motivates me to lavish some attention on my 1966 Superbe, bought from the widow of the original owner; a lecturer at the University of Hull during Phillip Larkin's time. He rode it to the university everyday during summer months. Completely original with some paint loss but little or no rust. Green Brooks mattress saddle, green saddle bag and - rare - green Raleigh branded pump, four speed Sturmey Archer...I clicked my Sturmey Archer gear and pedalled'til I nearly burst...dynamo, huge Raleigh branded bell, period mileometer, tools, handbook and event the steering lock key. Headlamp reflector needs re-silvering and new tyres (amberwalls ?), tubes and brake blocks re needed - pedals are shot, but readily available.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e2d3350cf8.jpg

Dan Burkhart 02-17-20 06:49 AM


Originally Posted by brianhamp (Post 21329963)
Does anyone know when the big Vintage bike show is on in Toronto area? I would like to go to it this year....

Thank you

There is one in Brantford on March 29th.

gster 02-17-20 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by Ballenxj (Post 21330303)
Bikepirates have apparently moved, and have not updated their website since. Bike Pirates | A DIY bike shop

Yes, the landlord was asking for a big rent increase and they had to move.
They've got a new spot near Bloor and Dundas but I don't know the address.
There's a winter show coming up in Brantford.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ba77d8f576.jpg

gster 02-17-20 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by brianhamp (Post 21331031)
Thank you. Hope to be there...

Jamie puts on a summer show as well, at his farm.Generally 3-4 weeks before
the Toronto Show. I chose the end of July so as not
to interfere with his original show.

Cute Boy Horse 02-17-20 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by hobbs1951 (Post 21330732)
Interesting thread guys, motivates me to lavish some attention on my 1966 Superbe, bought from the widow of the original owner; a lecturer at the University of Hull during Phillip Larkin's time. He rode it to the university everyday during summer months. Completely original with some paint loss but little or no rust. Green Brooks mattress saddle, green saddle bag and - rare - green Raleigh branded pump, four speed Sturmey Archer...I clicked my Sturmey Archer gear and pedalled'til I nearly burst...dynamo, huge Raleigh branded bell, period mileometer, tools, handbook and event the steering lock key. Headlamp reflector needs re-silvering and new tyres (amberwalls ?), tubes and brake blocks re needed - pedals are shot, but readily available.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e2d3350cf8.jpg

Ah, another man of culture. I have two of this myself, never been lucky enough to find one with the FSU though. Annoyingly the chaincase on the more original bike split open and warped, so it rubs the chain and makes an annoying noise. Maybe I'll bring it out of storage this summer, and see what I can do. The other is from just before they went cotterless and was a wreck, half the parts are from india now but I ride it everyday.

arty dave 02-17-20 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by W.L.SOON (Post 21330642)
Hi Dave,thank you for taking the trouble.
My rear hub brake has the correct arm. It is just the front one. So ok,let me get this straight:you mean that the HSB 408 is not the CORRECT fit for our front brakes? It will fit on but the angle will be incorrect,is that it? That is why you had to have it welded and redone the hole to get the correct angle?

As for the rear hub brake,I am lacking the rear lower bell-crank and the adjoining threaded rod to pull the rear brake lever. Were these parts never sold as spares/replacements,but only came with the bike back in those days?🤔

Thank you Dave. All the best!😀👍

Apologies, I read and replied too fast as I have a million things happening in my head and life at the moment :)

To clarify: HSB408 I used on the front and corrected the angle with weld, drill, file to shape. Sorry for the confusion, I see that you asked what number is on the back of the cam arm and thought you were asking about the rear cam arm (which should be part HSB 220). I didn't get to my DL-1 yesterday and am unlikely to see it again for a few more days.
Earlier on in this century (seems weird to say that!) there were still some rod-to-drum conversion kits being sold online but I haven't seen or heard of them for a long time. You may be able to piece together a set from individual parts from UK sellers.

I'm still looking for a rear access panel for a DL-1 chaincase if anyone has one they might be willing to part with, or sees one for sale, can they please let me know?

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...d0249237c7.jpg

thumpism 02-18-20 06:37 AM

A couple from the local CL.

https://richmond.craigslist.org/bik/...076613599.html

Vintage 1964 Rudge Deluxe Bicycle - $495 (Richmond, VA.)

https://images.craigslist.org/00q0q_...7m_600x450.jpg
bicycle frame material: steel
bicycle type: cruiser
brake type: caliper
condition: excellent
electric assist: none
frame size: 54cm
handlebar type: cruiser
make / manufacturer: Rudge
model name / number: Deluxe
suspension: none (rigid)
wheel size: 26 in
This vintage 1964 Rudge Sturmey Archer 3 speed deluxe bicycle made in England in original finish is in excellent condition and perfect running condition. English Brooks saddle, Schwinn battery operated front and rear running lights, generator powered headlight all in great condition. Also included is a Trek "Vapor" helmet, chrome bicycle tire pump new set of brake pads, two bike locks one key operated and the other combination operated, new pair of MKS Touring Pedals, new Sigma speedo/clock, new Lumotec IQ Classic LED light for hub dynamo and a small tin of Brooks Proofed leather dressing for the saddle. There is also a very scarce new Sturmey Archer chrome front wheel DynoHub included.Call show contact info

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

https://richmond.craigslist.org/bik/...076595785.html

Antique Phillip's 3 Speed Rod Brake Coaster Bike - $125 (Midlothian)

https://images.craigslist.org/00O0O_...JR_600x450.jpg
bicycle frame material: other/unknown
bicycle type: cruiser
frame size: 00
wheel size: other/unknown
All pieces seem to be there. Just needs a good cleaning, brake adjustment and air in tires.
Neat bike

W.L.SOON 02-18-20 06:58 AM

Hi Dave,thanks for clarifying and for your sharing.😁👌

gster 02-18-20 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by arty dave (Post 21331487)
Apologies, I read and replied too fast as I have a million things happening in my head and life at the moment :)

To clarify: HSB408 I used on the front and corrected the angle with weld, drill, file to shape. Sorry for the confusion, I see that you asked what number is on the back of the cam arm and thought you were asking about the rear cam arm (which should be part HSB 220). I didn't get to my DL-1 yesterday and am unlikely to see it again for a few more days.
Earlier on in this century (seems weird to say that!) there were still some rod-to-drum conversion kits being sold online but I haven't seen or heard of them for a long time. You may be able to piece together a set from individual parts from UK sellers.

I'm still looking for a rear access panel for a DL-1 chaincase if anyone has one they might be willing to part with, or sees one for sale, can they please let me know?

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...d0249237c7.jpg

I wonder what the thinking was back then.
I can see the benefits of enclosing a chain and
an oil bath but.....
They can be a real pain in the ass when you need to change a tire
and they seem to rub as well.
Maybe a new chain was relatively expensive back then.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...d492c35b8d.jpg
Installing a chain....
https://threespeedmania.wordpress.co...rcules-update/

dweenk 02-18-20 01:43 PM

I think that the full chaincase may have the mother-of-invention for the pants clip.

thumpism 02-18-20 09:19 PM

Seller says it's English but I don't believe it.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...8577305731559/

https://scontent.fric1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...f6&oe=5EB75A20

thumpism 02-18-20 09:24 PM

Tall ladies' frame, 23". These can be hard to find.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...6439918820142/

https://scontent.fric1-2.fna.fbcdn.n...17&oe=5EBE512D


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