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David Newton 08-22-10 09:44 PM

Jason, get the garage cleaned up will you?

Pretty BSA badge!

mkeller234 08-23-10 12:22 AM

Nice! More DL-1 pictures please.

fender76 08-23-10 05:02 AM

Ha still moving in so gutting the garage from former tenants is a project to say the least!

mkeller234 08-23-10 07:40 AM

I don't think I ever posted these here. I fixed up this 1970 Sports a while back, ended up selling it because of it's small size. It's just like the one wahoonc posted, made in Malaysia and without the frills of a normal sports. I thought the red tires and grips were unusual and interesting.

As found, the original handle bars had wooden dowel extensions forced in the ends:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4100/...20ca8f61_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4100/...d06c3c1e_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4096/...cd5bd413_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4076/...1e58c088_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4081/...78dc80a6_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4119/...eeba5c01_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4116/...19a5e4f6_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4142/...e9ee3049_b.jpg

ColonelJLloyd 08-23-10 08:23 AM

^ Nice work! Where'd you find the tires?

mkeller234 08-23-10 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by ColonelJLloyd (Post 11336962)
^ Nice work! Where'd you find the tires?

At a local LBS. I have a feeling they are almost as old as the bike, the brand is Cheng Shin

fender76 08-23-10 10:56 AM

....a few more. I'm part collector, part hobby seller...

here's my (American!) daily commuter...a 65 Columbia which I really like

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4093/...3cdaa531_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4140/...98d88f9e_b.jpg

a blue '63 that I sold in great shape..

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4121/...1d4d18b1_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4119/...6006eb00_b.jpg
a shot of my BSA before I bought it...

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4074/...d06862b8_b.jpg
and another DL-1 close-up. I guess I don't have too many far away shots of this bike yet...maybe because it's so big! :)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4120/...96dcfbb9_b.jpg

a 71 Sports that was used very briefly before being stored that I just sold..

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4082/...0fc7ab78_b.jpg

chris902 08-23-10 12:27 PM

I think I may have tracked down a usable Sport for my club bike conversion but I have a question that I should know the answer for:
Can I mount the break levers from a sport onto drop bars or am I going to have to track down "new" (i.e. salvaged) drop bar specific break levers?

Sixty Fiver 08-23-10 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by chris902 (Post 11338613)
I think I may have tracked down a usable Sport for my club bike conversion but I have a question that I should know the answer for:
Can I mount the break levers from a sport onto drop bars or am I going to have to track down "new" (i.e. salvaged) drop bar specific break levers?

The very old drop bar models used the same steel levers on drop bars but if you ride on the hoods as most do they are not comfortable and don't offer a lot of braking leverage... but they do have a very authentic look.

My 1955 Lenton has it's stock steel levers and stops rather well but my '54 conversion has modern Dia Compe levers which are comfortable on the hoods and deliver some decent stopping power from there as well... my wheels are alloy 700c and the brakes are also Dia Compes which helps.

fender76 08-23-10 12:32 PM

as a sidenote - does anyone have a picture of what my 1951 Dawn Tourist's chainguard SHOULD look like? I'll be sanding it down soon, and I want to make it period-correct. Thanks in advance...

gbalke 08-23-10 01:21 PM

This was posted on Flickr:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/damonab...n/photostream/

fender76 08-23-10 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by gbalke (Post 11338995)

awesome thanks - I just need a close-up of the pinstriping and font...

Andrew F 08-23-10 06:42 PM

Mkeller234- That is so clean, it looks NOS! I like the tires and the handgrips, very nice indeed!

David Newton 08-24-10 08:21 AM

Just a note, this ebay seller has just listed this alloy wheelset in 26 x 1 3/8" with rear freewheel threading. Usually you can get thinner locknuts and axle spacers so these can work on Sports, they have on mine.
But I haven't used this exact pair of wheels, so beware the front hub is probably 100mm, and the rear 120 or 126mm.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

mkeller234 08-24-10 01:08 PM

I know I have posted this one in this thread yet. It was a 1958 Western Flyer with Norman of England decals. I regret selling this bike in hindsight.

Check out how long the front fenders is:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4117/...409079b9_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4116/...b5e31956_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4095/...d1b414a0_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4116/...93eaedd4_b.jpg

Norman decals:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4094/...34cf9749_b.jpg

Upside down trigger shifter:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4082/...e771b70b_b.jpg

Cool chain guard and Williams crank:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4115/...e565c129_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4116/...6bd8a6cb_b.jpg

noglider 08-24-10 08:51 PM

Why don't we see paint colors like that any more. Exquisite. I've had an emotional response to that shade of blue since I was a kid. What is it called?

David Newton 08-24-10 09:42 PM

Great bike!
You should post it on the "can a man ride a woman's frame?" thread.
I'd love to have ridden that.

mkeller234 08-24-10 09:55 PM


Originally Posted by noglider (Post 11348428)
Why don't we see paint colors like that any more. Exquisite. I've had an emotional response to that shade of blue since I was a kid. What is it called?

Yeah, I really like the color too, especially with the grips, saddle and white head tube. The white box stripping seemed nicer than usual on that bike too. One quirk was the shifter cable clamp, it only fit the top tube, not the downtube. You can see the cable runs at a strange angle, it's how it was when I found it. RHM speculated that it may have had a higher grade of tubing but I never checked the seat post diameter. The lugs also had a really nice shape with "key hole" cut outs in the back.


Originally Posted by David Newton (Post 11348740)
Great bike!
You should post it on the "can a man ride a woman's frame?" thread.
I'd love to have ridden that.

Oh, believe me I wanted to but it was way to small for me. I really wanted a reason to keep even though my wife did not want it for herself. The women that bought it was pretty thrilled... looking back I sold it really low. I just hope it's being cared for. The SW hub was frustrating and untrustworthy.

noglider 08-24-10 10:04 PM

What was the selling price?

mkeller234 08-24-10 10:14 PM


Originally Posted by noglider (Post 11348858)
What was the selling price?

I sold it for 100 dollars. It's not a give away... but at that price it was rare enough that I wish I had kept it. I think I even used Phil Wood grease in that one. I would have swapped the SW hub internals with an AW had I kept it. Even the kickstand on that bike was cooler than normal.

I paid 10 dollars for the bike at a thrift store, but it was filthy.

noglider 08-24-10 10:19 PM

I ask $150 for English three speeds, and I'm not as good at cleaning bikes as you are.

Sixty Fiver 08-24-10 10:26 PM


Originally Posted by mkeller234 (Post 11348923)
I sold it for 100 dollars. It's not a give away... but at that price it was rare enough that I wish I had kept it. I think I even used Phil Wood grease in that one. I would have swapped the SW hub internals with an AW had I kept it. Even the kickstand on that bike was cooler than normal.

I paid 10 dollars for the bike at a thrift store, but it was filthy.

If it makes you feel any better you can't swap AW internals with an SW... it is a completely different beast and has a small hub shell.

mkeller234 08-24-10 10:38 PM


Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver (Post 11348993)
If it makes you feel any better you can't swap AW internals with an SW... it is a completely different beast and has a small hub shell.

Well, maybe a tiny bit. I never got to the point of actually researching it and just assumed it was that simple. I did disassemble that SW hub when I worked on the bike and saw how different it was. The springless pawls were neat looking but I would hate to have to replace one. Actually I seem to find just as many SW hubs as I do AW, which seems unlucky to me. I had a Red Western Flyer

The thing that comforts me the most is that it would have sat idle in my garage. I guess it could be doing the same somewhere else but I know I would have felt wasteful for keeping it.

Tom, that was the first time I ever sold a bike so I wasn't really aware of the value.

Sixty Fiver 08-24-10 10:44 PM

I have an SW laced into a wheel and at some point would like to do some of the modifications many have suggested to make them a more reliable unit...

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/sw.html

mkeller234 08-24-10 10:50 PM


Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver (Post 11349078)
I have an SW laced into a wheel and at some point would like to do some of the modifications many have suggested to make them a more reliable unit...

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/sw.html

I did the spring stretching thing once with the Norman. I don't know if I did it right or not, or if the hub benefitted from it. I don't know if I switched the pawls around or not. Now I did have another Raleigh built Western Flyer that had an SW hub that seemed to work as well as any AW I have had. I didn't ride that bike extensively so it's hard to say, but it never once gave me a issue engaging the gears.


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