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gster 10-22-17 07:32 PM


Originally Posted by 3speedslow (Post 19945717)
Out this early evening for a coffee stop. Up to #8 on pedal tried to find a knee friendly set.

Sweet Daddy Siki!!!

BigChief 10-22-17 08:45 PM

We've got some hot looking scorchers going here! Well, technically I suppose gster is correct in calling ours semi-scorchers with our upright northroads. I have a kickstand on mine also. But still, the spirit is alive!

johnnyspaghetti 10-22-17 09:29 PM

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This 1970-72? looks good in the boston area listed at $40 guys.

https://boston.craigslist.org/sob/bo...323706834.html

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thumpism 10-23-17 05:12 AM

Probably. My coffee 23" '74 has the self-adjusting brake levers.

Originally Posted by johnnyspaghetti (Post 19946186)
This 1970-72? looks good in the boston area listed at $40 guys.

https://boston.craigslist.org/sob/bo...323706834.html

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BigChief 10-23-17 05:50 AM


Originally Posted by thumpism (Post 19946478)
Probably. My coffee 23" '74 has the self-adjusting brake levers.

I like this one. Hard to see in the photo, but I think this color may be burgundy. I'd go for this one if I was closer. Nice bike. Pre 73 I think. Pretty sure I see a fender hanger under the rear brake. They changed to through tabs like the front fender by 73.

gster 10-23-17 06:31 AM

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I think that this bike really stands out. A Scorcher needs that extended reach stem to be complete.
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Good work 3speedslow!

plympton 10-23-17 06:32 AM

does anyone want me to get it and hold it for them?

gster 10-23-17 06:34 AM


Originally Posted by noglider (Post 19945664)
I did see that explanation, but I would probably go crazy trying that. Just installing pawl springs is annoying enough.

Yes.....crazy.

BigChief 10-23-17 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by plympton (Post 19946549)
does anyone want me to get it and hold it for them?

Thanks, that's very kind of you to offer, but no. This time of year I'm way too busy to travel anywhere. I'm lucky if I have time to squeeze in my short bike rides. Weather was perfect yesterday. It took all of my effort to turn around and come back for chores.
Keep those pictures coming. I love that project you're working on.
I have to edit this. If I find a 23" pre 55 gents in bad enough condition, they'll have to get along without me while I go get it. Everybody has their limit!

nlerner 10-23-17 08:33 AM


Originally Posted by BigChief (Post 19946660)
I have to edit this. If I find a 23" pre 55 gents in bad enough condition, they'll have to get along without me while I go get it. Everybody has their limit!

I don't think this is quite what you had in mind, but . . .

thumpism 10-23-17 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by BigChief (Post 19946504)
I like this one. Hard to see in the photo, but I think this color may be burgundy. I'd go for this one if I was closer. Nice bike. Pre 73 I think. Pretty sure I see a fender hanger under the rear brake. They changed to through tabs like the front fender by 73.

Not only the fender, but mine has top tube cable stops and exposed brake cable run while this one looks like it has clips and housing all the way, plus mine is 36F/36R while this one looks like 36F/40R.

adventurepdx 10-23-17 09:59 AM

1956 Raleigh Sports
 
This 1956 Raleigh Sports came up on Portland Craigslist. Not a bad price, in good shape, and Dynohub! :love:
https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/...354166375.html
Somebody get this!

https://images.craigslist.org/00V0V_...QH_600x450.jpg
1956 Raleigh women's Sport - $240 (Hillsdale)
1956 Raleigh Sport in great condition. Almost all original. 21"

3speedslow 10-23-17 11:36 AM

Thanks @gster

I use a kickstand, full disclosure!

My Raleigh is a 73 and uses a wrap around mudguard attachment.

Trying another pedal set so I can add miles to my trips without hurting the knee

BigChief 10-23-17 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by nlerner (Post 19946795)
I don't think this is quite what you had in mind, but . . .

Wow! thanks. That is what I'm looking for. Funny thing. I just bought an early stem, brake levers and bars that turned out to be much older than I thought. Must be in the stars. You wouldn't happen to know if that rear dropout is correct for that period would you? I'm not as familiar with pre war Raleighs as I should be if I'm to do a project like this.
edit: had to go back to the 1935 catalog to find it. This frame requires different fenders. They would be just about impossible to find.

nlerner 10-23-17 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by BigChief (Post 19947472)
Wow! thanks. That is what I'm looking for. Funny thing. I just bought an early stem, brake levers and bars that turned out to be much older than I thought. Must be in the stars. You wouldn't happen to know if that rear dropout is correct for that period would you? I'm not as familiar with pre war Raleighs as I should be if I'm to do a project like this.
edit: had to go back to the 1935 catalog to find it. This frame requires different fenders. They would be just about impossible to find.

Yeah, doing a faithful recreation of a 1935 bike would be challenging. I had this one built up with mostly 70s Sports components, including fenders, an EA1 wheelset w/ a rear coaster brake (1980s Araya rims came in this size for some ill-fated Japanese venture), and Soma faux Lauterwasser bars:

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8414/...bca574c4_c.jpg

I also created some faux-1930s Sports fenders for one of the cheap-o BF competitions:

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4470/...f04fffbd_c.jpg

This is what I was trying to achieve with that build (from the 1936 catalog):

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4452/...1c5ac0c3_c.jpg

That rear reflector is the challenge!

gster 10-23-17 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by nlerner (Post 19947732)
Yeah, doing a faithful recreation of a 1935 bike would be challenging. I had this one built up with mostly 70s Sports components, including fenders, an EA1 wheelset w/ a rear coaster brake (1980s Araya rims came in this size for some ill-fated Japanese venture), and Soma faux Lauterwasser bars:

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8414/...bca574c4_c.jpg

I also created some faux-1930s Sports fenders for one of the cheap-o BF competitions:

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4470/...f04fffbd_c.jpg

This is what I was trying to achieve with that build (from the 1936 catalog):

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4452/...1c5ac0c3_c.jpg

That rear reflector is the challenge!

I think you've achieved your goal with the top bike.
Nice lines.

Salubrious 10-23-17 03:44 PM

The crank and pedals are a bit of a give away.

plympton 10-23-17 04:14 PM

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Well there is a reason to take apart and rebuild a 68 year old SA Hub. Took the whole thing apart, soaked all the components over night, cleaned and reassembled today. That is to say wanted to reassemble today. Easy project and not as hard as it looks, but, one of the planet pinions has a broken tooth. So now a need a new one. Do I look for one or buy four? And I need an authentic 1949ish indicator 5 3/4 axle. Where do you think I might get that? I have various kinds of auto and boat grease. I even have 1950's grease. What do yous guys use in your hub rebuilds? Attachment 585607

plympton 10-23-17 04:40 PM

I know that you love these bike. a 1930's Sports on craigslist
https://images.craigslist.org/00505_...K_1200x900.jpg

BigChief 10-23-17 05:38 PM

I've been using marine grease on the wheel bearings and just a light coating of whatever automotive oil I have on hand for everything else. My oldest hub is a Jan 1955. Splined driver type. It uses the same 5 3/4" axle as all my other Raleigh Sports type bikes.

noglider 10-23-17 08:50 PM

@plympton, any grease is fine. Really.

BigChief 10-23-17 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by plympton (Post 19947991)
I know that you love these bike. a 1930's Sports on craigslist
https://images.craigslist.org/00505_...K_1200x900.jpg

Another pre war Raleigh. Interesting bike. I don't have the knowledge to do these bikes justice. But I feel the tide changing. My early 50s junker will show up any time now.

gster 10-24-17 03:21 AM

Raleigh Brake Cables
 
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Has anyone come up with an elegant fix for adapting new brake cables to work with the old style calipers?
I've seen some rough solutions with a small nut and bolt but nothing that looks clean.
Those proprietary NOS cables are in short supply and often very expensive.
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I've been swapping out the old calipers for the newer versions but would like to maintain originality where possible.

gster 10-24-17 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by gster (Post 19948787)
Has anyone come up with an elegant fix for adapting new brake cables to work with the old style calipers?
I've seen some rough solutions with a small nut and bolt but nothing that looks clean.
Those proprietary NOS cables are in short supply and often very expensive.
Attachment 585688

Attachment 585690
I've been swapping out the old calipers for the newer versions but would like to maintain originality where possible.

I think I've answered my own question with these things...
Cable Knarps.
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BigChief 10-24-17 05:37 AM

Sometimes, especially on newer cables, the ends are cast onto the cable, but sometimes they are steel and brazed on. If you have a bad frayed cable like this you have nothing to loose by heating the end with a torch and seeing if it melts or can be pulled off the cable. So even if you use a knarp, hang on to the old cable since you may be able to silver braze it someday if you're up to going through the extra trouble.


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