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BigChief 05-02-17 04:17 AM


Originally Posted by SirMike1983 (Post 19552608)
Thanks

I wish they were all like that one - that's the best one near me. Most are getting pretty ragged looking... lots of pot holes to dodge the past couple of years.

Cleaver to use that spot. A dream bike on a dream road surface makes a beautiful photo. Really works well. It makes you picture yourself riding that bike on that road. I suppose us cyclists tend to notice road surfaces more than most. Especially after riding rough roads in the early springtime.

rhm 05-02-17 04:47 AM


Originally Posted by Velocivixen (Post 19545831)
Question: ... If one cotter is at a different angle would my pedal feel crooked?

No. If a pedal feels misaligned, that's a misalignment in a different dimension.

It is true that if your cotters have mismatched facets, the crank arms will not align with one another; if you feel this at all, while riding, it will present as an odd pedaling rhythm, one foot following the other a little too closely.

browngw 05-02-17 08:50 AM

Robin in the 'Hood
 
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The 1971 Robin Hood Sports is ready for another season. It has not been ridden much in the last couple of years. I was being a bit of a slave to originality as the bike was largely untouched since new. This winter I made a commitment to ride it more next season or part with it. To that end, the first modification was to replace the 46T to18T gearing with a new 21T found at my LBS. The original chain, although not stretched, was also replaced and is much smoother and quieter.
The original white plastic bar tape was replaced with a modern white "cork" type tape which looks a little thick but feels great. The lack of a bottle cage was bugging me so I resorted to the old method of the twin metal straps.
Last week I did a 30km ride on mixed surfaces (limestone, pavement) and found the gearing much improved. It was able to climb my local hill easily and motor along in third in easy going. Saddle and bars were comfortable and my water bottle was handy. The newer Schwalbe Delta Cruisers felt solid and easy rolling. Perhaps "Robin in the 'Hood" will become a regular site in Port Dover this summer.

Kilroy1988 05-02-17 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by browngw (Post 19553676)
The 1971 Robin Hood Sports is ready for another season...

Lovely bicycle! Last year on Ebay a fellow had a very clean example for sale at a decent price but he wanted more than $200 to ship it within the states, and I couldn't bite that bullet. Pity, that. Feel free to share more photos of yours! It's really nice looking. :)

-Gregory

dweenk 05-02-17 09:21 AM

That is a beautiful Robin Hood.

markk900 05-02-17 12:58 PM

OT: is that a spitfire or a TR6 behind the lovely Robin Hood?

adventurepdx 05-02-17 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by browngw (Post 19553676)
The 1971 Robin Hood Sports is ready for another season. It has not been ridden much in the last couple of years. I was being a bit of a slave to originality as the bike was largely untouched since new. This winter I made a commitment to ride it more next season or part with it. To that end, the first modification was to replace the 46T to18T gearing with a new 21T found at my LBS...Last week I did a 30km ride on mixed surfaces (limestone, pavement) and found the gearing much improved. It was able to climb my local hill easily and motor along in third in easy going.

A very nice Robin Hood indeed!

I'm a firm believer that bicycles should be ridden and enjoyed, and not remain a museum piece. 60's/70's Sports three speeds are too common to be rare, so I don't feel there's any harm in altering it in a way to make it more practical for the rider. And switching to a bigger rear cog is one of the cheapest, easiest, and most effective ways to make a three speed more enjoyable.

One question: Are those Delta Cruisers whitewall or "gumwall"? I can't tell in the pic.

gster 05-02-17 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by gster (Post 19546413)
Here's a very clean Coffee Sports that I'm hoping to have a look at today. reasonable price.

Picked this up today. It actually looks much better in the photos than in person, but it wasn't expensive and quite complete.

The Good:

-Complete bike

-Paint is good and will clean up

-Tall frame

-Original ribbed cables (all work well

-Plastic trigger face not cracked

-Period saddle bag attached

-Chain OK

-Brooks vinyl saddle OK

The Bad:

-Tires

-Brake pads

-Incorrect pedals

-Rims have surface rust but may polish out

-Rear hub is missing the oil port (Bolt in it's place)

My plan is to strip the bike and re-assemble. More than likely I'll pass it on to someone at cost (Bike + parts). Someone contacted me last week looking for a bike so it may go to him. He's a little put off by the colour, but I like it.

gster 05-02-17 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by browngw (Post 19553676)
The 1971 Robin Hood Sports is ready for another season. It has not been ridden much in the last couple of years. I was being a bit of a slave to originality as the bike was largely untouched since new. This winter I made a commitment to ride it more next season or part with it. To that end, the first modification was to replace the 46T to18T gearing with a new 21T found at my LBS. The original chain, although not stretched, was also replaced and is much smoother and quieter.
The original white plastic bar tape was replaced with a modern white "cork" type tape which looks a little thick but feels great. The lack of a bottle cage was bugging me so I resorted to the old method of the twin metal straps.
Last week I did a 30km ride on mixed surfaces (limestone, pavement) and found the gearing much improved. It was able to climb my local hill easily and motor along in third in easy going. Saddle and bars were comfortable and my water bottle was handy. The newer Schwalbe Delta Cruisers felt solid and easy rolling. Perhaps "Robin in the 'Hood" will become a regular site in Port Dover this summer.

I'm a little bit jealous....

browngw 05-02-17 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by adventurepdx (Post 19554550)
A very nice Robin Hood indeed!

I'm a firm believer that bicycles should be ridden and enjoyed, and not remain a museum piece. 60's/70's Sports three speeds are too common to be rare, so I don't feel there's any harm in altering it in a way to make it more practical for the rider. And switching to a bigger rear cog is one of the cheapest, easiest, and most effective ways to make a three speed more enjoyable.

One question: Are those Delta Cruisers whitewall or "gumwall"? I can't tell in the pic.


The Delta Cruisers are white walls, but it is a creamy white.

browngw 05-02-17 05:16 PM


Originally Posted by markk900 (Post 19554458)
OT: is that a spitfire or a TR6 behind the lovely Robin Hood?

Actually it is a 1980 TR7 convertible owned and driven since '93.

Salubrious 05-03-17 11:20 AM

Lake Pepin 3-speed Tour coming up at the end of next week!

I don't think I'll have my 1935 Roadster quite ready by then, so its going to be the his and hers matching Humber Sports...

Mike from Iowa 05-03-17 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by Salubrious (Post 19556958)
Lake Pepin 3-speed Tour coming up at the end of next week!

I don't think I'll have my 1935 Roadster quite ready by then, so its going to be the his and hers matching Humber Sports...

There will be at least TWO sets of of his and hers Humbers then. My wife and I will be riding for the first time since 2011 on the LP3ST. We are excited to be going again. Ours are green and from the Raleigh early 70's era.

-Mike

Salubrious 05-03-17 12:03 PM

Ours will be the black early 50s roadsters (enclosed chain).

DQRider 05-03-17 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by Salubrious (Post 19556958)
Lake Pepin 3-speed Tour coming up at the end of next week!

I don't think I'll have my 1935 Roadster quite ready by then, so its going to be the his and hers matching Humber Sports...

Do you mean this beauty (his)?

http://i.imgur.com/CTyylmR.png

I still can't get over that fork... I'd love to read the design brief for that one.



Salubrious 05-03-17 02:34 PM

That's the one. As I understand it, the fork was designed for the Beeston-Humber trike about 1880 or slightly earlier.

1901 Beeston Humber No 27 Convertible Tricycle | The Online Bicycle Museum

adventurepdx 05-04-17 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by Salubrious (Post 19556958)
Lake Pepin 3-speed Tour coming up at the end of next week!

Alas, won't be making it this year. :(
Hopefully I can get out in 2018.
Have fun, everyone!

BigChief 05-06-17 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by browngw (Post 19553676)
The 1971 Robin Hood Sports is ready for another season. It has not been ridden much in the last couple of years. I was being a bit of a slave to originality as the bike was largely untouched since new. This winter I made a commitment to ride it more next season or part with it. To that end, the first modification was to replace the 46T to18T gearing with a new 21T found at my LBS. The original chain, although not stretched, was also replaced and is much smoother and quieter.
The original white plastic bar tape was replaced with a modern white "cork" type tape which looks a little thick but feels great. The lack of a bottle cage was bugging me so I resorted to the old method of the twin metal straps.
Last week I did a 30km ride on mixed surfaces (limestone, pavement) and found the gearing much improved. It was able to climb my local hill easily and motor along in third in easy going. Saddle and bars were comfortable and my water bottle was handy. The newer Schwalbe Delta Cruisers felt solid and easy rolling. Perhaps "Robin in the 'Hood" will become a regular site in Port Dover this summer.

@browngw I've been scanning ebay for the right fenders for my DL-1 when I saw these. I like the look of the white fenders, but I don't remember if they are original or not. You may be interested in these.
VINTAGE ROBIN HOOD 26 INCH FENDERS SET FRONT REAR TRIUMPH RALEIGH ENGLAND NOS | eBay

browngw 05-06-17 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChief (Post 19564198)
@browngw I've been scanning ebay for the right fenders for my DL-1 when I saw these. I like the look of the white fenders, but I don't remember if they are original or not. You may be interested in these.
VINTAGE ROBIN HOOD 26 INCH FENDERS SET FRONT REAR TRIUMPH RALEIGH ENGLAND NOS | eBay



Nice looking fenders, thanks for pointing them out to me. Although I had not seen white fenders on a RH Sports before, they appear to be original including a very well preserved decal. As a matter of fact, tires, cable,s bar tape etc. were original. Screws and fasteners on the mudguards looked liked they had never been touched since assembly. The black plastic saddle from Taiwan was likely a replacement for a better British saddle that was poached for a different bike. There was conjecture when I first got the bike that a shop in Toronto had a large number of Dunelts and Robin Hoods that were sold well into the '80s.
I've attached some pictures from a few years ago when I purchased the bike in Brantford at the Canadian Vintage Bike Show. The bike was a little dusty and the inevitable oil seepage but did not look like it had seen much use.

3speedslow 05-06-17 12:16 PM

Great to see the Robin again! Port Dover should use it as part of their advertising...

gna 05-06-17 02:12 PM

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Here's a Dunelt I found leaning against a tree in the boulevard, chain off, rear wheel stuck. Brought it home, No one claimed it. Fixed it up for a friend.

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Attachment 562115

BigChief 05-07-17 05:36 AM

Good Job! Glad to see this nice bike rescued. Another classy English 3 speed back on the road. Looks great.

gster 05-07-17 05:55 AM

1972 Raleigh Sports Progress Report
 
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Progress has been made. Once again those cotter pins have proved to be difficult.

The drive side popped out with a couple of stern whacks of the hammer, the other side wouldn't budge. I ended up drilling it out with no damage to the crank or spindle.

Judging by the grease inside the BB, this bike hasn't been ridden in years. The cups look good so if the weather here in Toronto clears up it should be back on the road next weekend.

Front and back hubs cleaned and re packed with new tires courtesy of George at Parkdale Bicycles at 1428 Queen Street West.
Re assembly has started. I will replace the pedals with either some new MKS pedals or some old Raleigh pedals from the spares bin.
Starting to look like a bicycle.

gster 05-07-17 06:12 AM

1972 Glider "Scorcher" Update
 
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Here's an interesting bike I put together a couple of years ago.
A 1972 Raleigh built Glider converted to a 2 speed kick back.

Cost Breakdown:

1973 Raleigh Glider bicycle @ $75.00 ($50.00, accounting for parts removed)
1967 Torpedo 2 speed kick back hub/coaster brake @ $75.00
Vintage Ideal (French) saddle @ $20.00
NOS Nitto drop bars @ $5.00
Front hand brake for safety @ $5.00
Aluminum stem @ $10.00
New chain and tires @ $40.00
I should point out that the bike as purchased was a fairly complete 3 speed so some of those parts have been
re- purposed or stored.

gster 05-07-17 06:25 AM


Originally Posted by gna (Post 19564750)
Here's a Dunelt I found leaning against a tree in the boulevard, chain off, rear wheel stuck. Brought it home, No one claimed it. Fixed it up for a friend.

Attachment 562114

Attachment 562115

"Ride a Wheel on Sheffield Steel".

markk900 05-07-17 06:36 AM

@gster: what tires did you use on the coffee one? I can't tell clearly from the picture but the tread patten looks good. My glider is sitting partly disassembled at the moment - perhaps another scorcher is in order. But where did you score that saddle for $20?

gster 05-07-17 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by markk900 (Post 19565716)
@gster: what tires did you use on the coffee one? I can't tell clearly from the picture but the tread patten looks good. My glider is sitting partly disassembled at the moment - perhaps another scorcher is in order. But where did you score that saddle for $20?

Tires on the coffee one are just cheap ($16.00) Chinese tires. I'll have to go out to look at the brand. Tread pattern below. Leather saddle was courtesy of Martin at Hoopdriver Cycles. He moved last year and had a "garage sale" of sorts.

gster 05-07-17 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by markk900 (Post 19565716)
@gster: what tires did you use on the coffee one? I can't tell clearly from the picture but the tread patten looks good. My glider is sitting partly disassembled at the moment - perhaps another scorcher is in order. But where did you score that saddle for $20?

Those tires are marked Chaoyang.

adventurepdx 05-07-17 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by BigChief (Post 19564198)
@browngw I've been scanning ebay for the right fenders for my DL-1 when I saw these. I like the look of the white fenders, but I don't remember if they are original or not. You may be interested in these.
VINTAGE ROBIN HOOD 26 INCH FENDERS SET FRONT REAR TRIUMPH RALEIGH ENGLAND NOS | eBay

One hundred bucks seems like a pretty steep price, especially since they are labelled "not perfect".

clubman 05-07-17 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by browngw (Post 19564538)
. There was conjecture when I first got the bike that a shop in Toronto had a large number of Dunelts and Robin Hoods that were sold well into the '80s.
I

Could be Grove Cycle on College at Kensington market. They were selling NOS Dunelts (maybe RH's) into the mid 90's. A truly amazing shop with a vast amount of historical items. When one of the owner-operators died, the stock that was mostly packed into a container and shipped to Cuba before if could be sorted out. I got my Hozan wheel stand from there.


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