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WhyFi 07-09-20 08:39 AM

Veg garden is going ham -

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Bah Humbug 07-09-20 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by noodle soup (Post 21577796)
We also get many Red Hats that think it's a liberal hoax.

I really enjoy refusing to help the Red Hats, especially when they get irate and start swearing at me..

I know they exist, but it seems so strange to think of that sort as cyclists.

WhyFi 07-09-20 08:45 AM

Grrrrr. LPLO even though I already posted?! :notamused:

noodle soup 07-09-20 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by Bah Humbug (Post 21577811)
I know they exist, but it seems so strange to think of that sort as cyclists.

The median age of Sun City AZ is 75, so we get a ton of them in the shop,

seedsbelize 07-09-20 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by bampilot06 (Post 21576501)
Just walked into a dicks in buffalo, the hand sanitizer they made me use smelled like straight whiskey. I don’t drink anymore, the smell made me gag. The lady just stared at me.

“That off-putting smell—sometimes described as rotten garbage or tequila-like—is the natural byproduct of ethanol being made from corn, sugar cane, beets, and other organic sources,” explained Zlotnik. “[Ethyl alcohol] production is highly regulated. It stinks because these new brands—many made by distillers who’ve pivoted from producing drinking alcohol to meet public demand for hand sanitizer—are making and using denatured ethanol. This ethanol costs significantly less than ethanol filtered using activated carbon filtration, which would typically remove almost all contaminants and the malodor with it.”

Those organic contaminants aren’t the only reason unfiltered and denatured ethanol smells downright foul. According to Zlotnik, denatured ethanol is also intentionally tainted with an unpalatable cocktail of chemicals (denaturants) such as methanol, acetone, methyl ethyl ketone, and denatonium to make it undrinkable. In other words: The base material is intentionally stinky.------Wirecutter

datlas 07-09-20 08:53 AM

My bike club has unveiled a new "policy" for restarting group rides:

1. Only members allowed. No guests.
2. Max 10 riders.
3. Every rider must sign a usual ride waiver and a covid-waiver (that says they don't have any symptoms, will contact ride leader if symptoms develop, yadda yadda)
4. Must sign up on signup genius so we have a paper trail for contact tracing
5. Must maintain 20+ foot distance from other riders

I think all of those are reasonable, but the 20 foot distance is going to kinda ruin the group ride dynamic and benefit, so although I respect club leadership in coming up with a policy, I am going to do non-club private rides with 1-3 other friends as I have been doing, for now. They say the 20 foot distance came from USA Cycling.

I told them that determining "safe following distance" is a fool's errand, and there is no good answer.

LAJ 07-09-20 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by noodle soup (Post 21577828)
The median age of Sun City AZ is 75, so we get a ton of them in the shop,

"We stopped the world for you and your at-risk group, so the least you can do is respect those actions, and put a mask on. Now get the **** away from me before I punch you in the throat."

I figure a kind and gentle approach works the best.

noodle soup 07-09-20 08:57 AM

Back to work tomorrow(from self-quarantine), and I have 1 bike that needs a tuneup, no new bikes to build, and only 6 bikes to sell(2 year old E-bikes).

It's gonna be a long 6 hour day.

noodle soup 07-09-20 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by LAJ (Post 21577838)
"We stopped the world for you and your at-risk group, so the least you can do is respect those actions, and put a mask on. Now get the **** away from me before I punch you in the throat."

:roflmao2:
I need to memorize that phrase.

abshipp 07-09-20 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 21577810)
Veg garden is going ham -

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Nice!

We currently have a cherry tomato plant attempting to take over the balcony.

WhyFi 07-09-20 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 21577835)
My bike club has unveiled a new "policy" for restarting group rides:

1. Only members allowed. No guests.
2. Max 10 riders.
3. Every rider must sign a usual ride waiver and a covid-waiver (that says they don't have any symptoms, will contact ride leader if symptoms develop, yadda yadda)
4. Must sign up on signup genius so we have a paper trail for contact tracing
5. Must maintain 20+ foot distance from other riders

I think all of those are reasonable, but the 20 foot distance is going to kinda ruin the group ride dynamic and benefit, so although I respect club leadership in coming up with a policy, I am going to do non-club private rides with 1-3 other friends as I have been doing, for now. They say the 20 foot distance came from USA Cycling.

I told them that determining "safe following distance" is a fool's errand, and there is no good answer.

What's the draft like at 20'?

Seriously, though, the thing that stands out to me in this is that maintaining a 20' gap is going to make passing really difficult for drivers. Like, obnoxiously and dangerously so.

big john 07-09-20 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by Bah Humbug (Post 21577811)
I know they exist, but it seems so strange to think of that sort as cyclists.

OMG my club president is devout. I know we're not supposed to get political here but that dude is extreme, as in nothing could change his mind, ever.

Bah Humbug 07-09-20 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by LAJ (Post 21577838)
"We stopped the world for you and your at-risk group, so the least you can do is respect those actions, and put a mask on. Now get the **** away from me before I punch you in the throat."

I figure a kind and gentle approach works the best.

I do have to admit, I’d find it a lot harder to do the right thing if I had lost my job to save people who mostly vilified me anyway.

Bah Humbug 07-09-20 09:11 AM

I will probably venture back to COTA when it starts up again in September, so I can get some time on the P2 again before winter. I will be closer than 20’ to people, but briefly. Hopefully I manage to not catch it.

WhyFi 07-09-20 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by abshipp (Post 21577864)
Nice!

We currently have a cherry tomato plant attempting to take over the balcony.

When we went to the arboretum the other day, we saw some grapes growing up a trellis. It made us briefly consider uprooting our pergola wisteria to plant grapes, instead. I think that they were wine grapes, though - I don't know if we could grow any eatin' varieties here. I'd certainly be interested, if we could.

big john 07-09-20 09:12 AM

My club just posted a full schedule for this coming weekend with 4 rides to choose from on Saturday. No rules except to carry a mask , as far as I can see.

phrantic09 07-09-20 09:23 AM


Originally Posted by Bah Humbug (Post 21577873)
I will probably venture back to COTA when it starts up again in September, so I can get some time on the P2 again before winter. I will be closer than 20’ to people, but briefly. Hopefully I manage to not catch it.

They let you ride on COTA? That's pretty cool.

datlas 07-09-20 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 21577868)
What's the draft like at 20'?

Seriously, though, the thing that stands out to me in this is that maintaining a 20' gap is going to make passing really difficult for drivers. Like, obnoxiously and dangerously so.

Yeah. Agree. It's like a group solo ride at that point and may be more dangerous with drivers. Apparently USA Cycling has made that recommendation and that's why the club picked it.

Some of my friends went on a small group ride and agreed to try to keep 20 feet apart. They found it more difficult than staying on someone's wheel.

phrantic09 07-09-20 09:34 AM

Proud moment this week.

Back in December my CEO, our Chief Innovation Officer, one of my staff and I went to Baltimore to meet with some folks at the Medicare Innovation Center regarding how they are payment bundles for lower joint replacement. Without getting into the sausage making, my team had put together an analysis that demonstrated how a payment policy change at the start of 2019 made the initial assumptions and methodology understate the actual cost of the bundles. During the meeting, they pretty much pushed us off, but stated they would look into it and send our analysis to their analytics vendor. Their own internal analytics people later said what we were demonstrating didn't have any impact nationally, but our analysis was still with the vendor.

This week their analytics vendor came out with an analysis that essentially mirrored ours and drew the same conclusions. They admitted that the methodology was incomplete and they will likely be taking action to make changes. They may be retroactive and if so, it will net us a lot of additional revenue (10M+). If it goes through - they should buy me a boat. I celebrated last night with palomas and paid the price on my ride this AM. Totally worth it.

Bah Humbug 07-09-20 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 21577908)
Yeah. Agree. It's like a group solo ride at that point and may be more dangerous with drivers. Apparently USA Cycling has made that recommendation and that's why the club picked it.

Some of my friends went on a small group ride and agreed to try to keep 20 feet apart. They found it more difficult than staying on someone's wheel.

Yeah at that point I’d rather just agree that everyone is riding in the same vicinity and so you have some closer support in an emergency.

MoAlpha 07-09-20 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 21577835)
My bike club has unveiled a new "policy" for restarting group rides:

1. Only members allowed. No guests.
2. Max 10 riders.
3. Every rider must sign a usual ride waiver and a covid-waiver (that says they don't have any symptoms, will contact ride leader if symptoms develop, yadda yadda)
4. Must sign up on signup genius so we have a paper trail for contact tracing
5. Must maintain 20+ foot distance from other riders

I think all of those are reasonable, but the 20 foot distance is going to kinda ruin the group ride dynamic and benefit, so although I respect club leadership in coming up with a policy, I am going to do non-club private rides with 1-3 other friends as I have been doing, for now. They say the 20 foot distance came from USA Cycling.

I told them that determining "safe following distance" is a fool's errand, and there is no good answer.

Our policy seems to be no officially announced group rides, just informal ones. I have seen no rides larger than 6. No rules for them. At least the exposure risk is low because the club draws from a wealthy population who are working from home and observing the protocols. There is certainly no good answer.

LAJ 07-09-20 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 21577874)
When we went to the arboretum the other day, we saw some grapes growing up a trellis. It made us briefly consider uprooting our pergola wisteria to plant grapes, instead. I think that they were wine grapes, though - I don't know if we could grow any eatin' varieties here. I'd certainly be interested, if we could.

We have a grape vine, or vines, or something along a fence, which seems to work well. (I don't know exactly, but Mrs. LAJ would) We also have a golden raspberry thing going on. (Defer to Mrs. LAJ again) The grapes are absolutely delicious, as are the raspberries. The problem would be racing the raccoons to the ripe grapes, though I think we have figured it out. Having motion sensor activated lights seems to have done the trick. A few years ago, we were waiting for just the right time to pick them, and literally a day or two before that weekend, the wildlife came in and stripped them bare. We stood there and just shook our head, and vowed to defeat those rascals.

MoAlpha 07-09-20 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 21577868)
What's the draft like at 20'?

Seriously, though, the thing that stands out to me in this is that maintaining a 20' gap is going to make passing really difficult for drivers. Like, obnoxiously and dangerously so.

These day's I'm motivated to do my share at the front to limit my exposure and make sure I get my chance to dose anyone behind me if I have it.

Bah Humbug 07-09-20 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by phrantic09 (Post 21577895)
They let you ride on COTA? That's pretty cool.

https://connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/3693529268

It so is. That Turn 1 hill is legit. The surface is rougher than you think though.

WhyFi 07-09-20 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by LAJ (Post 21577952)
We have a grape vine, or vines, or something along a fence, which seems to work well. (I don't know exactly, but Mrs. LAJ would) We also have a golden raspberry thing going on. (Defer to Mrs. LAJ again) The grapes are absolutely delicious, as are the raspberries. The problem would be racing the raccoons to the ripe grapes, though I think we have figured it out. Having motion sensor activated lights seems to have done the trick. A few years ago, we were waiting for just the right time to pick them, and literally a day or two before that weekend, the wildlife came in and stripped them bare. We stood there and just shook our head, and vowed to defeat those rascals.

Clever little bastards. We had a similar problem with our (meager) blueberry crop and birds each of the last two years.

I'll have to look in to the grapes sometime. Plenty of the honey-do list at the moment, though. :twitchy:


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