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carleton 10-14-17 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by rustymongrel (Post 19929867)
On my road bike I've always preferred microtex type fake leather bartape. When I started riding at the track I found I wanted something with a bit more grip but similarly thin and not cushy so I tried lizard skins 1.8mm bar tape. I really liked it but with recent switch to the Look sprint bars on my bike I found the diameter of the bar a bit big. I was looking into even thinner tape options when I discovered that lizard skins does a 0.5mm version of their tape... but not for bicycles, for baseball bats!

I figured I'd try it out and ordered 4 rolls online. Turns out each roll covers about as much handlebar as a track grip would. First impressions are good, feels just as good as the 1.8mm tape but with even less give. Only downside is that they come with angled cuts on the end of the rolls that require to wrap both sides the same way unless you want to sacrifice a few inches of tape.

Figured I'd mention it for anyone else looking for something like that.

Thanks! I'll definitely try some. I don't need vibration absorption either.

I once found some similarly thin tape made by Bontrager. I think it was intended for use on aerobar extensions where cusion isn't needed but grip is. I loved it.

I'm a fan of Lizard Skins and have been using it almost exclusively for years. It's expensive, but worth it. To make it cost effective, I cut each strip in half so that I double the usage by only wrapping the bottom half of my bars. It's obvious on Scattos where you only have the bottom half to wrap, but I do the same on Nitto bars as well.


https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4309/3...b957aea3_h.jpg
https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7618/1...9191d580_h.jpg

Nice tip: Instead of wrapping from the plug up and finishing with tape. Wrap from the top down and finish with the plug. That way you don't have to use tape for a nice clean look. Yes, the overlaying layers could roll and become unsightly, but they don't with Lizard Skins.

It winds up being a really clean look like this:

https://i.imgur.com/zG9Set5.png

Instead of having tape finish it like this:

http://img.photo138.com/OE2/ZH73701-C-3-20.jpg

topflightpro 10-14-17 04:51 PM

What five-spoke is that on the orange bike?

carleton 10-14-17 04:55 PM


Originally Posted by topflightpro (Post 19930063)
What five-spoke is that on the orange bike?

Navigator 5 Spoke Clincher.

It was offered along with these: https://www.dolan-bikes.com/navigator-track-wheels.html

They have since discontinued the no-sticker clincher variant.

Well-built and looks cool, but it is heavy. Not sure if it's "fast" or not.

topflightpro 10-15-17 06:36 AM


Originally Posted by carleton (Post 19930067)
Well-built and looks cool, but it is heavy. Not sure if it's "fast" or not.

But it looks fast, which is half the battle.

carleton 10-15-17 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by topflightpro (Post 19930801)
But it looks fast, which is half the battle.

It's funny but true.

seau grateau 10-15-17 01:08 PM


Originally Posted by carleton (Post 19930005)

When done properly, wrapping from the bottom up actually looks pretty clean and not like it was done by a monkey. Going top down is probably a lot easier when you're only wrapping the drop section though.

https://i.imgur.com/csypmfR.png

carleton 10-15-17 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by seau grateau (Post 19931429)
When done properly, wrapping from the bottom up actually looks pretty clean and not like it was done by a monkey. Going top down is probably a lot easier when you're only wrapping the drop section though.

(sigh) whenever I wrap bars, it always looks like it was done by a monkey :D

carleton 10-15-17 02:10 PM

Some great in-depth writing here: https://www.momnium.com/

carleton 10-19-17 01:31 AM

https://geometrygeeks.bike

seau grateau 10-19-17 04:49 AM


Originally Posted by carleton (Post 19938622)

This is a super cool concept.

carleton 10-19-17 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by seau grateau (Post 19938686)
This is a super cool concept.

I agree.

I think the data is crowd-sourced. I'll see if I can contribute when I get time. It needs more data for track model frames.

queerpunk 10-19-17 09:53 AM

If only it included a visualizer, too - kind of like the stem comparison chart, or this bonkers excel spreadsheet i recently came across...

Poppit 10-19-17 01:30 PM

European track champs live timing Veloresults Live Timing

Poppit 10-20-17 04:35 AM

14 guys under 10 seconds in the sprint quali

topflightpro 10-20-17 10:26 AM

i prefer bikegeo.net.

carleton 10-20-17 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by topflightpro (Post 19941681)
i prefer bikegeo.net.

Yeah, bikegeo is very nice. The site I linked-to above is more of a reference for geometry specs of current and past bikes, which can be a pain to find as many manufacturers don't maintain specs of old models on their sites. So, if someone offers for sale a Serenity, Dolan DF3, Teschner Track Pro, or 2008 Fuji Track Pro, where you gonna get the geometry chart to see if it will fit?

Poppit 10-21-17 10:51 AM

Apparently there is a stayer race at the euros tonight. Should be interesting, never seen one before

700wheel 10-21-17 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by Poppit (Post 19943420)
Apparently there is a stayer race at the euros tonight. Should be interesting, never seen one before

Sounds exciting - eight men racing for one-hour. Provide more details if you watch it (pacer bike type and distance covered).
Thanks
http://eliteeuropean2017.veloresults.com/pdf/mst1.pdf

gl98115 10-21-17 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by 700wheel (Post 19943913)
Sounds exciting - eight men racing for one-hour. Provide more details if you watch it (pacer bike type and distance covered).
Thanks
http://eliteeuropean2017.veloresults.com/pdf/mst1.pdf

True stayer race with what looked like BMW motorbikes. (Photo off internet which looked right)

http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/photos...sch-racing.jpg

200 lap race, but wasn't that exciting. There was one point where there was three abreast for a pass, but otherwise not much action. Dominated by the Germans (3 riders) and the Dutch (2 riders) who do this regularly.

carleton 10-21-17 09:26 PM


Originally Posted by spartankid (Post 19944053)
at european champs, jeffrey hoogland throws down what might be the fastest standing sea level 500 in his kilo final:

17.5 at 250, 30.5 at 500 m. He was a full 2 seconds up on eilers at 750 m but only won by 0.033. His opening lap was .1 faster than his man 1 split from the netherlands' team sprint qualifying ride.

http://eliteeuropean2017.veloresults.com/pdf/mtt4.pdf

wow.

Baby Puke 10-22-17 03:50 AM

That ought to answer some questions (at least theoretically) about which is faster in a start- aerobars or drops. Seems like if you are properly set up, no difference.

carleton 10-22-17 10:57 PM


Originally Posted by Baby Puke (Post 19944574)
That ought to answer some questions (at least theoretically) about which is faster in a start- aerobars or drops. Seems like if you are properly set up, no difference.

Well...the logic is kind of not right.

Just because Hoogland can ride a 30" 500M in aero bars during his Kilo doesn't mean he wouldn't be faster using drops for a 500M (not Kilo) effort. Maybe he'd ride a 29.0 or 29.5" 500M in drops.

So, the fact that Hoogland can ride a 30" opening 500M in aerobars shows that a human can go that fast using them in a 500M. That doesn't mean that he cannot go any faster using drops. Maybe he can.

EDIT:

And Hoogland is abnormally big. Probably one the largest active track sprinters right now:

https://i.imgur.com/J1IU2V4.jpg

Baby Puke 10-23-17 05:07 AM

My comment was about starts. His first lap was identical (ok, slightly faster in the aerobars) between TS and kilo. I've read on here that drop bars are better for starts. My contention has always been if your hands are in the right place it won't matter of it's a drop bar or a bullhorn or a mustache bar for that matter.

carleton 10-23-17 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by Baby Puke (Post 19946474)
My comment was about starts. His first lap was identical (ok, slightly faster in the aerobars) between TS and kilo. I've read on here that drop bars are better for starts. My contention has always been if your hands are in the right place it won't matter of it's a drop bar or a bullhorn or a mustache bar for that matter.

Good point.

JimiMimni 10-23-17 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by carleton (Post 19946271)
And Hoogland is abnormally big. Probably one the largest active track sprinters right now:

:lol::lol::lol:

It is infinitely amusing to me to call professional athletes "abnormally big." I know what you mean, but it is still hilarious.


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