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big chainring 03-29-24 09:32 AM

'71 Super Sport
 
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'71 Schwinn Super Sport. Listed on faceboook for $50. Thought it would last a couple hours. A week later 300 clicks on the ad and.......crickets.

IS it just a relic of the past with no value?

sd5782 03-29-24 11:48 AM

It’s only valuable to relics like us. A buyer would look at all the parts they needed to get it up and going and buy a complete other bike.

bboy314 03-29-24 11:57 AM

You might have better luck on eBay with this one. The market for bikes like this is dwindling.

macstuff 03-30-24 12:27 PM

A terrible repaint and no original panache'
All the 71-73' super sports had was a ghost of flavor from the previous European kitted 60's models. Without that they get scrapped at our co-op
As you know, its not a light frame.
Hard Sell.

sd5782 03-30-24 01:22 PM

The thing is, these are nice riders. Frame angles give a nice feel. Set up as an upright 1X makes a nice ride too. One of mine is set up as a 1X7 for a casual neighborhood rider.

big chainring 04-01-24 05:52 AM


Originally Posted by sd5782 (Post 23200046)
The thing is, these are nice riders. Frame angles give a nice feel. Set up as an upright 1X makes a nice ride too. One of mine is set up as a 1X7 for a casual neighborhood rider.

Yep. They are great riding bikes. I had tbis one built up inspired by Schwinns "french connection". Mafac brakes, Stronglight crank, sew-ups, aling with a brooks saddle and Campy Record derailleur. Sweet ride.
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zukahn1 04-01-24 08:14 AM

Main thing on these is frame up build is going to cost more than whole bike would be worth. Right now good set of vintage correct looking tires and tubes could run over $100 shipped. Start to add up the rest off the stuff and your looking at $500 cost for what is $300 or so bike.

AdventureManCO 04-04-24 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by big chainring (Post 23201410)
Yep. They are great riding bikes. I had tbis one built up inspired by Schwinns "french connection". Mafac brakes, Stronglight crank, sew-ups, aling with a brooks saddle and Campy Record derailleur. Sweet ride.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...eb77b01643.png

Wow looks great. Looks ‘right’.

macstuff 04-04-24 04:54 PM

They are very good bikes if you aren't worried about weight or keeping up with much faster bikes. Zukahn1 is right though, building that one up is a project for someone that really wants to have one, but there are complete ones for a couple hundred. It looks like that one was originally Sunset Orange, a good color if it was in good condition. They are good solid riders but a little stodgy compared to many others, You know, one piece crank and all... The 60's versions were all in sparkly colors whereas the 71'-73's also came in the solid "Mod" colors.
Heres what I mean by Panache'... My old 68'.
I got it for $150 and its all original. It just needed a good cleaning and service. If you look you will find, they are out there


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big chainring 04-04-24 05:43 PM

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The frame has been sitting in my dining room for a couple weeks. I just really like the clean lines of the fillet brazed frame. $50? Hard to believe that no one wanted it. Its probably not a frame too many can appreciate, ...and truely a great ride especially with sew-ups. I just might build it back up as a 5 speed. I rode it that way for a while and it was kinda nice. I have a lot of parts hanging around to do something offbeat and interesting. And with the weather being sucky, gives me time to build something up if I'm not riding.

downtube42 04-04-24 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by big chainring (Post 23205268)
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The frame has been sitting in my dining room for a couple weeks. I just really like the clean lines of the fillet brazed frame. $50? Hard to believe that no one wanted it. Its probably not a frame too many can appreciate, ...and truely a great ride especially with sew-ups. I just might build it back up as a 5 speed. I rode it that way for a while and it was kinda nice. I have a lot of parts hanging around to do something offbeat and interesting. And with the weather being sucky, gives me time to build something up if I'm not riding.

I rode one for a lot of years. Agreed it's a joyful rider. Comfortable, not sporty. The fillet-brazed frame is cool, and if you like that kind of thing it makes you happy just knowing it's there.

Someone put a 3-piece crank adapter on there, which I've also done but IMO detracts from the panache without adding much. The paint is also a negative; with original frames still around carrying plenty of panache, this is a tough sell IMO.

The best way forward is to build it into something you'll enjoy riding, and enjoy it. Fixie or SS or 3-speed or whatever you'll ride. To sell it, you have to find just the right person, just the right size. That's a big ask.

Chombi1 04-07-24 05:07 AM

The color of the paint does not do favors for the frame. Just a bit too blah...

big chainring 04-07-24 09:20 AM

I get a kick out of these responses. The bike is painted with Benjamin Moore Gloss Impervo. Its one of their stock gloss colors that might not be available anymore. I think the color is great and its one of my better paint jobs.

The BB adapter lets you get rid of the boat anchor Ashtabula crank with its 1/2 inch pedal threads. Reduces weight considerably and opens up all kinds of crank/pedal options.

Guess we all do it differently. I rode this bike a lot but have purchased others in the last couple years and now trying to free up some room. $50...can you buy lunch for two for that anymore? And now over 500 hits on facebook. Patience grasshopper.

Velo Mule 04-09-24 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by big chainring (Post 23207787)
I get a kick out of these responses. The bike is painted with Benjamin Moore Gloss Impervo. Its one of their stock gloss colors that might not be available anymore. I think the color is great and its one of my better paint jobs.

The BB adapter lets you get rid of the boat anchor Ashtabula crank with its 1/2 inch pedal threads. Reduces weight considerably and opens up all kinds of crank/pedal options.

Guess we all do it differently. I rode this bike a lot but have purchased others in the last couple years and now trying to free up some room. $50...can you buy lunch for two for that anymore? And now over 500 hits on facebook. Patience grasshopper.

I'm with you on your feelings for this. Your right $50 isn't much any more. And this is with the bottom bracket that you can choose to use or revert back to the one piece crank and the original headset. If you were close to me, I'd get it, not like I need another Schwinn or any bike, The problem with the paint is that it is not original. I like the paint color in your built up picture. In fact the built up bike looks great.

I think the other problem is that few people are looking for a project bike like this. And the market is soft for these bikes post pandemic. I picked up a complete Super Sport for under $100 pictured below as bought.

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downtube42 04-09-24 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by big chainring (Post 23198886)
...

IS it just a relic of the past with no value?


Originally Posted by big chainring (Post 23207787)
I get a kick out of these responses.

You want opinions so you can get a kick out of the ones you don't like. Got it. Good luck with the sale.

bboy314 04-09-24 06:43 PM

One issue is that those of us who are able to build up a bare frame are generally too thrifty to pay a whole lot for said frame, unless it’s something special. And Super Sports of this era are great, underrated bikes, but that means there are plenty of completes out there to be had for peanuts.

Kabuki12 04-15-24 06:54 AM

Either keep it or donate it , probably not worth the hassle trying to sell it. I’m seeing very nice vintage bikes selling very cheap and reasonably priced bikes sitting with no buyers. I’m glad I bought most of my bikes a while ago and already ridden them enough so it doesn’t matter.

big chainring 04-25-24 06:22 AM

Sold to a wannabe framebuilder. Yay!
Then within hours of the sale picked up these tires. Good trade....I think?


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bboy314 04-25-24 06:33 AM

So what’s the verdict on value in this case?

SirMike1983 04-25-24 12:05 PM

It's worth $50 to someone who is a hardcore hobbyist and wants a hand-built fillet brazed frame. It's kind of a blank canvas for a custom build. I kind of like the dark green. I think it would look nice with a good polishing and application of reproduction decals. As for the parts, you're building to make a rider more than for the money. Economically, it won't be a money-maker, but it could make a good rider. I mean, hand-made, old school frame for $50? Seems decent to me if it fits and you like it... Hell, a good leather saddle is twice that (at least) now.


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