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jjhabbs 04-01-22 01:27 PM

Help! What do you know about this ATALA! PICS inside.
 
Hey guys,
I got this from a neighbor here by the Vintage Bike Garage. I was told it was an early 70s bike. However IDK if that is true at all. There are some unique features on this bicycle. The condition is SICK! Great shape! Check out that headset! Haven't seen one like it. What pedals and seat post would be on a bicycle like this. I tried to google this brand and not much is coming up on it. Does anyone have any resources that would teach more about this bicycle? I want to do a video on this bike but I dont have enough information to do it. Please advise,

EDIT. What an embarrassing post. I realized something just now...(10 minutes after original post) I not only spelled Atala wrong when I posted this. I actually googled Itala while looking up this bicycle. Wow. Maybe I didnt do enough drugs as a kid! LOL

JJ
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https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ffc8e81d49.jpg
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merziac 04-01-22 01:32 PM

@jjhabbs

ATALA, serious C+V, Columbus tubing has to be very near top of the line, very cool, great score. :thumb:

John E 04-01-22 01:38 PM

Yet another bike followed you home to the Bike Garage? :)

I like it a lot, but I am very curious about the Stronglight crankset, since I would have anticipated cottered steel on an earlier model or Campagnolo on anything from the mid-1960s on up.

T-Mar 04-01-22 01:40 PM

That's the Competezione model, which was 2nd from the top of the line during the ealry 1970s bicycle boom. It uses the same Columbus SL/SP frame as the top, Record Professional, model. The patent date on the Campagnolo Nuovo Record rear derailleur indcates a circa 1972-1973 model. The serial number, which should be located at the top of the seat tube, may allow us to narropw that down.

merziac 04-01-22 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by John E (Post 22458520)
Yet another bike followed you home to the Bike Garage? :)

I like it a lot, but I am very curious about the Stronglight crankset, since I would have anticipated cottered steel on an earlier model or Campagnolo on anything from the mid-1960s on up.

Its also got a Suntour freewheel so the drivetrain was stepped up at some point, maybe brakes too?

Still cool as heck and in fantastic shape regardless. ;)

noobinsf 04-01-22 01:46 PM

Atala has a big following in the vintage bike space. I’m surprised you’re having trouble finding info. At any rate, this is a very cool bike, gorgeous condition. Great score!

merziac 04-01-22 01:47 PM

@jjhabbs

On the cleanup/refresh, your usual great care and careful massaging will make this even more stunning.

Simple elbow grease and preservation rules the day here.

T-Mar 04-01-22 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by John E (Post 22458520)
Yet another bike followed you home to the Bike Garage? :)

I like it a lot, but I am very curious about the Stronglight crankset, since I would have anticipated cottered steel on an earlier model or Campagnolo on anything from the mid-1960s on up.

The Stronglight is OEM. Bottecchia did the same thing with their Gran Turismo model of the same era. Both Atala and Bottecchia were imported into the USA by Stuyvesant, so I'm not sure if the Stronglight spec is a factory or importer decision.

jjhabbs 04-01-22 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by T-Mar (Post 22458522)
That's the Competezione model, which was 2nd from the top of the line during the ealry 1970s bicycle boom. It uses the same Columbus SL/SP frame as the top, Record Professional, model. The patent date on the Campagnolo Nuovo Record rear derailleur indcates a circa 1972-1973 model. The serial number, which should be located at the top of the seat tube, may allow us to narropw that down.

Sometimes I brain cramp. Yes, the rear derailleur is Patent 72! The first three digits of the serial number is 72A.... I think we have a 72! LOL
Ill google the Competezione model and learn more.

Thanks for your input!

JJ

cinelliguy 04-01-22 02:03 PM

Need serial number on bottom bracket.

merziac 04-01-22 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by T-Mar (Post 22458532)
The Stronglight is OEM. Bottecchia did the same thing with their Gran Turismo model of the same era. Both Atala and Bottecchia were imported into the USA by Stuyvesant, so I'm not sure if the Stronglight spec is a factory or importer decision.

How about the brakes?

Maybe its obvious to most but I'm just more of a hack on these. ;)

merziac 04-01-22 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by T-Mar (Post 22458522)
That's the Competezione model, which was 2nd from the top of the line during the ealry 1970s bicycle boom. It uses the same Columbus SL/SP frame as the top, Record Professional, model. The patent date on the Campagnolo Nuovo Record rear derailleur indcates a circa 1972-1973 model. The serial number, which should be located at the top of the seat tube, may allow us to narropw that down.


Originally Posted by jjhabbs (Post 22458539)
Sometimes I brain cramp. Yes, the rear derailleur is Patent 72! The first three digits of the serial number is 72A.... I think we have a 72! LOL
Ill google the Competezione model and learn more.

Thanks for your input!

JJ


Originally Posted by cinelliguy (Post 22458549)
Need serial number on bottom bracket.

Tmar already weighed in on this and it was responded to. ;)

jjhabbs 04-01-22 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by merziac (Post 22458553)
How about the brakes?

Maybe its obvious to most but I'm just more of a hack on these. ;)

I think the Wienmann brakes are stock. I have the wrong levers most likely due to a crash. The handlebars are slightly bent in as well.

JJ

merziac 04-01-22 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by jjhabbs (Post 22458561)
I think the Wienmann brakes are stock. I have the wrong levers most likely due to a crash. The handlebars are slightly bent in as well.

JJ

Looks like you're right, google shows that to be the case and I should have looked before asking. :crash:

T-Mar 04-01-22 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by merziac (Post 22458553)
How about the brakes?

Maybe its obvious to most but I'm just more of a hack on these. ;)

The brakes may be OEM. My recollection is that they were orignally Universal 61 but in 1972, when the boom exploded, there wereall kinds of shortages and they had to substitute Weinmann for some shipments.. In 1973 and 1974, Weinmann were OEM spec on the Competizione, while the Record Professional retained the Universal 61.

merziac 04-01-22 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by T-Mar (Post 22458851)
The brakes may be OEM. My recollection is that they were orignally Universal 61 but in 1972, when the boom exploded, there wereall kinds of shortages and they had to substitute Weinmann for some shipments.. In 1973 and 1974, Weinmann were OEM spec on the Competizione, while the Record Professional retained the Universal 61.

Google brings up pics of 72's having them so it seems to be the case.


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