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seedsbelize2 02-14-22 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22409378)
Yeah, I poked around on Zwift Insider a little bit - it looks like the gravel bike would be a significant help there... but the other loop of the course is paved, and the gravel bike might be just as much of a hindrance, so a pick-your-poison kind of deal.

I just need to eat my Wheaties and HTFU, I guess.

Not a real gravel bike of course. Knobbies on the trainer? I think not

LesterOfPuppets 02-14-22 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22409379)
This is funny, because I keep seeing some folks of a particular political persuasion talking about how awful and radical (or something) the halftime show was - and a number of them are fairly young! I mean were they expecting Perry Como?

I'm thinking Kid Rock and Lee Greenwood :)

WhyFi 02-14-22 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by seedsbelize2 (Post 22409389)
Not a real gravel bike of course. Knobbies on the trainer? I think not

Noooo - virtual gravel bike. On Zwift, each bike and bike type has different qualities (weight, drag, etc) that'll affect your speed over different simulated terrain.

genejockey 02-14-22 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by seedsbelize2 (Post 22409384)
I was in high school before our class pics were in color. I grew up practically in Amish country.
#outintheboonies

Our High School Yearbook was the first one at our High School that had color pictures, but only two pages. So we decided to do a class picture up in The Narrows - a section of Conewago Creek where it drops rapidly through a bunch of enormous boulders. (I think Indyfabz will have ridden alongside it on Rt 234, coming down from US30 toward Arendtsville*.) The photographer set up way above us - Can't remember how, but it seems like a really bad place to be up a ladder! - and we all arranged ourselves around on the boulders.

It was the mid-70s. All the guys were gonna move to Montana and become foresters or something. One of them actually did. At the very least, they were going to move far away. A very few of us did.

*Spellcheck lights up the correctly spelled Arendtsville. That's how obscure my hometown is.

seedsbelize2 02-14-22 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22409400)
Noooo - virtual gravel bike. On Zwift, each bike and bike type has different qualities (weight, drag, etc) that'll affect your speed over different simulated terrain.

Aaaahhhh

big john 02-14-22 12:18 PM

Now that NBCSN is defunct the Supercross series is broadcast on CNBC, USA, and NBC so I can watch it again.

genejockey 02-14-22 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by eric f (Post 22409388)
kid rock and/or ted nugent.


Originally Posted by lesterofpuppets (Post 22409395)
i'm thinking kid rock and lee greenwood :)

gmta

genejockey 02-14-22 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22409400)
Noooo - virtual gravel bike. On Zwift, each bike and bike type has different qualities (weight, drag, etc) that'll affect your speed over different simulated terrain.

I have almost as many bikes on Zwift as I have IRL. I don't know that it makes any difference, but when I do crits I use the Canyon Aeroad 2021 with the Cadex wheels. When I do anything with much climbing, I use the Canyon Ultimate CFR and the DT Diecuts. Of course, with my low-res setup, they all look the same anyway!

Eric F 02-14-22 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by big john (Post 22409404)
Now that NBCSN is defunct the Supercross series is broadcast on CNBC, USA, and NBC so I can watch it again.
450SX Main Event Highlights - Anaheim 3 2022 - YouTube

Bicycle content...2nd place finisher, Eli Tomac, is the son of former road and MTB pro, John Tomac.

Eric F 02-14-22 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22409378)
Yeah, I poked around on Zwift Insider a little bit - it looks like the gravel bike would be a significant help there... but the other loop of the course is paved, and the gravel bike might be just as much of a hindrance, so a pick-your-poison kind of deal.

I just need to eat my Wheaties and HTFU, I guess.

Based on what I saw, and what GJ has experienced, the gravel bike wont penalize you as much on the paved section as the road bike will penalize you on the gravel sections.

genejockey 02-14-22 12:35 PM

When I was picking up the Litespeed on Saturday, I talked with the LBS owner about wheelbuilding. I mentioned my hesitation because of the expense of the proper tools and all. He said I should go ahead and build them up, do as good a job as I could and then bring them in and he'd check/adjust the spoke tension and trueness. I suspect some of that depends on sourcing parts from him, which is eminently reasonable.

Velo Vol 02-14-22 12:38 PM

The only halftime that would make everyone happy would be to have Knoxville Community Band perform.

big john 02-14-22 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by Eric F (Post 22409413)
Bicycle content...2nd place finisher, Eli Tomac, is the son of former road and MTB pro, John Tomac.

Yep. Eli was Supercross champion in 2020, the year they finished the season with a string of races at the same stadium in Utah. They even had some races on Wednesdays. Oh, and no fans.

big john 02-14-22 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by Eric F (Post 22409388)
Kid Rock and/or Ted Nugent.


Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets (Post 22409395)
I'm thinking Kid Rock and Lee Greenwood :)

Some idiot pundit said the show was "sexual anarchy" and shouldn't be allowed on television. This from a guy who is only 28. I wonder if these dufuses just say the most extreme things they can think of just to get attention.

genejockey 02-14-22 12:50 PM


Originally Posted by big john (Post 22409428)
Some idiot pundit said the show was "sexual anarchy" and shouldn't be allowed on television. This from a guy who is only 28. I wonder if these dufuses just say the most extreme things they can think of just to get attention.

Knowing who you're talking about, I'd say yes. Also, "Sexual Anarchy" sounds like a good name for a band.

WhyFi 02-14-22 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22409409)
I have almost as many bikes on Zwift as I have IRL. I don't know that it makes any difference, but when I do crits I use the Canyon Aeroad 2021 with the Cadex wheels. When I do anything with much climbing, I use the Canyon Ultimate CFR and the DT Diecuts. Of course, with my low-res setup, they all look the same anyway!

I'm sure that, like everything, it depends and it's relative. It can make a significant difference for climbing. My set-up, C'dale Evo and Lightweights, saves more than a minute up the Alpe, which would be pretty tough to claw out, otherwise. If you're comfortably tucked in to a group? Yeah, I dunno.

genejockey 02-14-22 01:03 PM

I mentioned last week that I had signed up for the free trial of Wahoo's SYSTM training app, because I was curious about their whole '4DP' approach which makes more sense to me than using just FTP. So I thought I might do the Full Frontal test. I watched some videos about it this weekend. Now I'm not so sure. The recommendation to have a "Sick Bucket" handy is more than a little off-putting. Plus, you know, I'm 64 years old, fer chrissakes. When professional athletes say, "It's the hardest thing I've ever done! I'll never, ever do it again!", it does make it seem kind of ... dangerous? More than that, though, is the realization that, since I've never even TRIED to do a 5 minute all-out effort, let alone that, then a 20 minute all-out effort after that, and a 1 minute all-out effort after THAT, perhaps I should consider walking before I try to fly.*

BUT one thing I saw is that SYSTM has a warmup workout that's supposed to rev you up for the test. I'm thinking maybe I'll do that warmup and then the Half Monty again.

My other observation is about YouTube, and it's that no matter the subject, YouTube lives up to Sturgeon's Law, that "90% of everything is crap." I see SO MANY poorly done, unengaging videos, on every subject I look into. 20 minutes of talking to a camera about a SPORT, without any video of what you're talking about? Why would ANYONE think that's good videography?

*I also would observe that chickening out is also the sort of thing that says something about one's motivation and personality.

MoAlpha 02-14-22 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by big john (Post 22409428)
Some idiot pundit said the show was "sexual anarchy" and shouldn't be allowed on television. This from a guy who is only 28. I wonder if these dufuses just say the most extreme things they can think of just to get attention.

Incel take.

Of course, you couldn't pay me to watch a SB half time show.

genejockey 02-14-22 01:08 PM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22409439)
I'm sure that, like everything, it depends and it's relative. It can make a significant difference for climbing. My set-up, C'dale Evo and Lightweights, saves more than a minute up the Alpe, which would be pretty tough to claw out, otherwise. If you're comfortably tucked in to a group? Yeah, I dunno.

I think the aero frame and wheels might make a difference in the sprint in a crit, as well as when attacking for strategic/psychological reasons, but yeah - it shouldn't make much difference in a bunch. It's almost talismanic, though, for me. I choose a different bike for different rides, even though I'm not really paying attention to time or setting PRs, just because I can.

WhyFi 02-14-22 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by Eric F (Post 22409415)
Based on what I saw, and what GJ has experienced, the gravel bike wont penalize you as much on the paved section as the road bike will penalize you on the gravel sections.

Yeah, I'm not so sure bout that - maybe I'll give it a try later in the week. What I'm seeing on ZI, though, indicates that they don't do so hot on pavement. Also, one of the (additional) challenges with Anquetil is that the group is almost non-existent; in both of my rides, I don't think that there was ever more than 4 or 5 other riders, so sheltering in the pack on a slow bike ain't happening. I think that I'm right on the edge and that it'll be popped if I do, popped if I don't, but we'll see.

Eric F 02-14-22 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by big john (Post 22409428)
Some idiot pundit said the show was "sexual anarchy" and shouldn't be allowed on television. This from a guy who is only 28. I wonder if these dufuses just say the most extreme things they can think of just to get attention.

Yes.

Mojo31 02-14-22 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by big john (Post 22409428)
Some idiot pundit said the show was "sexual anarchy" and shouldn't be allowed on television. This from a guy who is only 28. I wonder if these dufuses just say the most extreme things they can think of just to get attention.

I was watching closely for a wardrobe malfunction, but, of course, there weren't any.

Trsnrtr 02-14-22 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by seedsbelize2 (Post 22409384)
I was in high school before our class pics were in color.
#outintheboonies

Same.

genejockey 02-14-22 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 22409446)
Incel take.

Of course, you couldn't pay me to watch a SB half time show.

I love this meme, largely because every time I try to import gene expression data into Excel, genes like Septin 2, which is abbreviated "SEPT2" always get converted to dates.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...0aa3dc41eb.jpg

Trsnrtr 02-14-22 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22409387)
You say that now, but what if it's because they only had paint back then?

Actually, one of my baby pics is one of those hand painted B&W photos.


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