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MoAlpha 05-31-22 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by Bah Humbug (Post 22526143)
I would be interested in trying shrooms, if I had a safe and legal source. From what I hear there's a strong chance it would improve my mental issues.

I may or may not be qualified to say they're a nice experience, especially with a beer or two to smooth out the anxiety which hallucinogens can produce in anxious people.

datlas 05-31-22 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by Bah Humbug (Post 22526143)
I would be interested in trying shrooms, if I had a safe and legal source. From what I hear there's a strong chance it would improve my mental issues.

There is some research in this area, but typically it has been for patients that are terminally ill. Apparently some people find it quite a spiritual experience. But it can scare the CRAP out of you too, possibly. I will pass for now.

MoAlpha 05-31-22 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22526164)
There is some research in this area, but typically it has been for patients that are terminally ill. Apparently some people find it quite a spiritual experience. But it can scare the CRAP out of you too, possibly. I will pass for now.

There is some literature and lots of anecdote on therapy for grief and trauma too. Caution is always advised. I predict FDA approval of psilocybin and/or MDMA for limited indications within a few years.

Velo Vol 05-31-22 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by ls01 (Post 22526158)
Kentucky trip in 2.5 days.....

Where?

Velo Vol 05-31-22 01:09 PM

Much like the Office Park speed records have fallen, the computing exaflop barrier has been shattered in nearby Oak Ridge. :bday:



https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...2985a775c1.jpg

seedsbelize2 05-31-22 01:34 PM


Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets (Post 22526122)
Hope the storm doesn't hit you too hard.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUGe9GvW...g&name=360x360

Thanks. I didn't realize it was coming this way.I'll have to do some checking around.
Edit: NOAA indicates there will be nothing. We are experiencing our normal easterly winds today.
But I will keep my ear to the ground.

seedsbelize2 05-31-22 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22526136)
Funny you mention this. I am actually qualified to authorize medical cannabis in Pennsylvania for appropriate patients, but have never tried anything like that. I am not opposed to it, I simply don't have any interest. Same with alcohol. No thanks.

I have taken up cannabis for the first time in 20+ years. I stopped because it made me catatonic for hours on end. Nowadays I fill a tiny pipe with a small bit of leaf and take one tiny toke.. It is quite conducive to bike wrenching, I have found. Or other activities that require a bit of focus and a bit of drive. Like the limes, it is home grown.

genejockey 05-31-22 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 22526150)
Anyone who has taken an old style antihistamine like Benadryl or any motion sickness prevention medication, for instance, has experience with anticholinergic drugs.

A fair number of people find that Benadryl is an effective mild anxiolytic. I myself have used it occasionally, and it seems to work like Baby Xanax - it turns off the squirrel running in the cage without stopping thinking altogether, whereas Xanax felt more like shutting everything down. I remember once, I caught a hint of a coming BIG reversal at a previous company, and I was working myself up to a panic attack, and took a Xanax, then went out with Mrs. GJ for a walk around the block. At first I was so wired that I had to keep stopping for her to catch up. Then it was like someone threw a blanket over my mind, and the anxieties and unhappy thoughts winked out one by one. By the end of the walk, Mrs. GJ had to keep stopping for me to catch up.

It was such a comforting feeling having no anxieties that it scared the hell out of me. I could see how people find the oblivion of some drugs addictive.

gnome 05-31-22 01:57 PM

I know I'm late but the fastest I've seen on my speedo on a bike was 81. kmh. On a fully loaded recumbent touring bike. It was a nice hill with no sharp corners and I took the lane and let the bike roll. I kept my hands well away from the brake levers. At that speed grabbing a brake is only going to end badly.
I've gone faster on my old Mercian road bike but it didn't have a speedo on it at teh time. Similar road: steepish with a good runout. There were a group of us and we all bombed down the hill. The fastest person got to 89kmh and the slowest was doing 83kmh. I was in the middle so was going somewhere between the two.

seedsbelize2 05-31-22 01:58 PM

My sister gave me half a Xanax, to get through my dad's funeral. I was a bit too relaxed for the occasion, but I'm still glad I had it.
I had sworn off all funerals many years earlier. This one, of course, had to be attended.

Mojo31 05-31-22 02:01 PM

Might have to get one of these!


MoAlpha 05-31-22 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22526309)
A fair number of people find that Benadryl is an effective mild anxiolytic. I myself have used it occasionally, and it seems to work like Baby Xanax - it turns off the squirrel running in the cage without stopping thinking altogether, whereas Xanax felt more like shutting everything down. I remember once, I caught a hint of a coming BIG reversal at a previous company, and I was working myself up to a panic attack, and took a Xanax, then went out with Mrs. GJ for a walk around the block. At first I was so wired that I had to keep stopping for her to catch up. Then it was like someone threw a blanket over my mind, and the anxieties and unhappy thoughts winked out one by one. By the end of the walk, Mrs. GJ had to keep stopping for me to catch up.

It was such a comforting feeling having no anxieties that it scared the hell out of me. I could see how people find the oblivion of some drugs addictive.

I dislike both classes of drug, personally. I use scopolamine patches when I'm out on the ocean and I'm not fond of that stuff either.

Years ago, I encountered a chronically ill patient who had become intensely dependent on diphenhydramine (Benadryl) after receiving with many infusions of some blood product. She became quite obstreperous when it was withheld, but I couldn't see the harm in it given what her life was like. Her doctors and the consulting shrink disagreed.

genejockey 05-31-22 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 22526341)
I dislike both classes of drug, personally. I use scopolamine patches when I'm out on the ocean and I'm not fond of that stuff either.

Years ago, I encountered a chronically ill patient who had become intensely dependent on diphenhydramine (Benadryl) after receiving with many infusions of some blood product. She became quite obstreperous when it was withheld, but I couldn't see the harm in it given what her life was like. Her doctors and the consulting shrink disagreed.

When my Grandmother was 97, the new doctor in the Mennonite Home decided to take her off some drug she was on because 'she wasn't as active as he'd like'. When Mom told me that I wondered how active was she supposed to be given most people her age have been dead for 20 years.

datlas 05-31-22 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 22526341)
I dislike both classes of drug, personally. I use scopolamine patches when I'm out on the ocean and I'm not fond of that stuff either.

Years ago, I encountered a chronically ill patient who had become intensely dependent on diphenhydramine (Benadryl) after receiving with many infusions of some blood product. She became quite obstreperous when it was withheld, but I couldn't see the harm in it given what her life was like. Her doctors and the consulting shrink disagreed.

I think you were right, and they were wrong. But you have to pick your battles. I personally don't love patients to take benadryl but at a certain point you have to focus on quality of life with vs without the stuff.

MoAlpha 05-31-22 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22526349)
I think you were right, and they were wrong. But you have to pick your battles. I personally don't love patients to take benadryl but at a certain point you have to focus on quality of life with vs without the stuff.

Psychiatrist mellowed her out with a homeopathic dose of some antipsychotic. She seemed to like it, so what do I know?

Bah Humbug 05-31-22 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22526349)
I think you were right, and they were wrong. But you have to pick your battles. I personally don't love patients to take benadryl but at a certain point you have to focus on quality of life with vs without the stuff.

I almost never take it, but what's wrong with Benadryl?

Like once every few years type...

bampilot06 05-31-22 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22525848)
Yesterday's century gave me a good start on staying atop the leaderboard. I don't know if I can keep it up because work.


I get home tonight. So prolly not.

Velo Vol 05-31-22 02:52 PM

K-Town is under a Boomer Alert! Wouldn't be surprised if DougRNS has arrived for the show.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...52530a5de.jpeg

datlas 05-31-22 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by Bah Humbug (Post 22526380)
I almost never take it, but what's wrong with Benadryl?

Like once every few years type...

It's a bit sedating so might not be good to use daily. Especially for the elderly. That said, I have some patients with insomnia who take this every night to sleep. I tell them it's not good for them, but probably only a little bad.

Velo Vol 05-31-22 03:01 PM

Sad.


MoAlpha 05-31-22 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by Bah Humbug (Post 22526380)
I almost never take it, but what's wrong with Benadryl?

Like once every few years type...

Nothing...until you're, like, 82 yo and can't remember your back teeth...or see...or pee on the stuff. Or you're like me and get the drowsies for 24 hrs after 25 mg.

rjones28 05-31-22 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 22526038)
I used to put a big rectangular stone on our gas grill, back when we had a big gas grill and were eating bread at home. It worked great and the kitchen stayed cool.

Mrs. rjones28 has been using a Dutch oven in the stove, for baking her sourdough loaves.

WhyFi 05-31-22 03:37 PM


Originally Posted by rjones28 (Post 22526436)
Mrs. rjones28 has been using a Dutch oven in the stove, for baking her sourdough loaves.

This is what I've done for my non-sourdough loaves... but, hopefully, the starter that I'm cultivating will be ready for showtime within another day or two. :D

BillyD 05-31-22 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by Bah Humbug (Post 22525910)
They had one climb on the course, called Heartbreak Hill. I mean, it was a climb, but not that awful. People from Dallas and Houston and BillyD would walk up it, or once I saw one (BillyD) fall over.

Fixed.

LesterOfPuppets 05-31-22 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 22526396)
K-Town is under a Boomer Alert! Wouldn't be surprised if DougRNS has arrived for the show.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...52530a5de.jpeg

Did he mean to say Baby Got Back?



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