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jitterymonkey 06-16-12 05:34 AM

Thanks gentlemen, took them yesterday to get trued & the shop owner told me about
the groves improving braking.
He also thought the "hump" in both the rims middle indicated that they were both Raleigh,
& maybe in 1974 the English factory was just throwing bikes together with whatever parts
they had on hand.

mkeller234 06-16-12 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by jitterymonkey (Post 14364039)
Thanks gentlemen, took them yesterday to get trued & the shop owner told me about
the groves improving braking.
He also thought the "hump" in both the rims middle indicated that they were both Raleigh,
& maybe in 1974 the English factory was just throwing bikes together with whatever parts
they had on hand.

Oh, yeah.... Raleigh throwing bikes together with parts on hand sounds right to me. I've noticed the same with my own Raleighs.

Canton, Ohio!?! You are the FIRST person that I have seen from Canton since I have been a member here. That is awesome. What shop did you take your bike to? Finding a mechanic with interest in old bikes is hit or miss. Ernie (from Ernies) is awesome, good for insight and old hard to find parts.

jitterymonkey 06-16-12 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by mkeller234 (Post 14364233)
Oh, yeah.... Raleigh throwing bikes together with parts on hand sounds right to me. I've noticed the same with my own Raleighs.

Canton, Ohio!?! You are the FIRST person that I have seen from Canton since I have been a member here. That is awesome. What shop did you take your bike to? Finding a mechanic with interest in old bikes is hit or miss. Ernie (from Ernies) is awesome, good for insight and old hard to find parts.

Hey mkeller,
Nice to meet you. Seems we have the same taste in bikes... old Raleighs,Treks & Schwinns.:thumb:
I'm in Plain Twp. have to get together some time.

I'm partial to old, grimy bike shops, so I frequent Dell's a lot.
But I try to spend a little money at all the local shops.. Gemini,Ernies &
I've even bought a bike off of Bisesi's.

clubman 06-16-12 06:05 PM

61 Raleigh Superbe...for Fathers Day!
 
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-I...0/DSC05792.jpg

Pictures are coming soon.

Mexican Street Dog 06-22-12 01:46 PM

Hey guys, I haven't posted here in a long time, I hope you'll forgive me for butting in. I wonder if anybody could tell me a little about this bike.

Thanks.

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/...meRaleigh1.jpg

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/...meRaleigh4.jpg

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/...meRaleigh3.jpg

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/...meRaleigh2.jpg

I've got it in the C&V values forum also, just wanted a little uh, backstory? or somethin'?

Sixty Fiver 06-22-12 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by clubman (Post 14365810)

Sweet !

Sixty Fiver 06-22-12 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by Mexican Street Dog (Post 14392065)
Hey guys, I haven't posted here in a long time, I hope you'll forgive me for butting in. I wonder if anybody could tell me a little about this bike.

Thanks.

I've got it in the C&V values forum also, just wanted a little uh, backstory? or somethin'?

The full chrome version is probably one of the rarest variants of the Raleigh Sports... once they are cleaned up they are stunning.

In really nice condition they would fetch quite a bit more than a similar Sports or Superbe.

mkeller234 06-22-12 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by jitterymonkey (Post 14364437)
Hey mkeller,
Nice to meet you. Seems we have the same taste in bikes... old Raleighs,Treks & Schwinns.:thumb:
I'm in Plain Twp. have to get together some time.

I'm partial to old, grimy bike shops, so I frequent Dell's a lot.
But I try to spend a little money at all the local shops.. Gemini,Ernies &
I've even bought a bike off of Bisesi's.

Sounds like a plan, maybe we can meet up for a ride sometime. I'm really liking the new middle branch trail that goes north through Gervasi Vineyard. I agree about Dell's, lots of great stuff. On the other hand, his mechanical work has been kind of spotty sometimes. I also find that prices seem to change with his mood.

noglider 06-23-12 04:40 AM

Hey, jedge, I haven't seen you in a while. (I pop in and out of this thread.) Can I see your bike?

There are still tons of English 3-speeds in the New York area. I'm doing a photo journal of bikes locked outside, mostly in New York City. There are some nice three-speeds. Just this week, I saw a tall Sports. Clearly, many people are riding old bikes not out of sentimentality but because they just work. They're good bikes!

Here's my photo journal. I haven't written captions yet.

Velognome 06-23-12 10:08 AM

Love the chrome PLUS a 3spd coaster brake :love: you can look dignified and lay down some awsome skids too! Clean it up and take if for a ride and post some photos....maybe an action shot of a smokin' hockey stop. The thought of it makes me feel 13 again!! Congratulations.

jedge76 06-25-12 09:43 PM

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Hey Tom, I'm around checking this thread every now and again. No problem at all, I'll post a pic below or I can send a higher resolution photo if you'd like? After looking at my most recent photos, I'll post this one below and take a better one tomorrow in better light.

I just got back from a short 7 mile ride, but I usually do at least a leisurely 10 miles a day on it. In the heat here, it is a really nice ride about 7 pm on. I also just bought a Brooks saddle bag for it and I really like it. It was a tough choice between the Brooks and a Carradice. Let me check out your photo journal, that should be pretty cool! It's a great idea, too. And, yes, they're awesome bikes as far as I'm concerned...more than just lookers!!


Originally Posted by noglider (Post 14394433)
Hey, jedge, I haven't seen you in a while. (I pop in and out of this thread.) Can I see your bike?

There are still tons of English 3-speeds in the New York area. I'm doing a photo journal of bikes locked outside, mostly in New York City. There are some nice three-speeds. Just this week, I saw a tall Sports. Clearly, many people are riding old bikes not out of sentimentality but because they just work. They're good bikes!

Here's my photo journal. I haven't written captions yet.


jedge76 06-25-12 09:48 PM

Great journal Tom! Fixies are still in. lol I'll be following your progress with the photos. Again, great idea!

oldroads 06-26-12 04:53 AM

Amazing how many of these all-chrome Raleigh Sports have been popping up lately.
I believe they were given to dealerships and not generally sold on the floor.

smontanaro 07-01-12 01:51 PM

Looking for a cheap rear fender...
 
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My wife brought home a rather decrepit Hercules three-speed and decided we would give it to our daughter-in-law. It's not going to get a repaint (though it needs it), but I have polished most every supposed-to-be-shiny bit on the bike within an inch of its life.

The front fender appears to be original and shined up quite nicely (as did the chrome chain guard), but the replacement aluminium rear fender needs to go. Any idea where I can find a decent rear fender to for not much dough which would blend in better with the front fender and chain guard? Need not be pristine, just amenable to a light dusting with steel wool.

Thanks,

Skip Montanaro
Evanston, IL
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=259272 http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=259273

PalmettoUpstate 07-01-12 06:06 PM

Been looking for an ideal Sports model Raleigh for my definitely better half and found one outside Asheville about 3-4 weeks ago. Can someone tell this Luddite how to post pics here? If not, I can create-a-link to FLICKR I guess....

26" Blue Metallic, B-72, original Brooks seat post bag...

Schwinnsta 07-01-12 07:26 PM

What year did Raleigh change the tube angles of Sports and Superbes from the relaxed, like Roadsters, to the modern form?

robertob 07-02-12 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by Schwinnsta (Post 14429454)
What year did Raleigh change the tube angles of Sports and Superbes from the relaxed, like Roadsters, to the modern form?

I think they were always different, however the 1938 catalog mentions the geometry and the 1936 bikes look more relaxed. My 1939 bike is pretty much the same as any sports made later.

Amesja 07-02-12 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by smontanaro (Post 14428379)
My wife brought home a rather decrepit Hercules three-speed and decided we would give it to our daughter-in-law. It's not going to get a repaint (though it needs it), but I have polished most every supposed-to-be-shiny bit on the bike within an inch of its life.

The front fender appears to be original and shined up quite nicely (as did the chrome chain guard), but the replacement aluminium rear fender needs to go. Any idea where I can find a decent rear fender to for not much dough which would blend in better with the front fender and chain guard? Need not be pristine, just amenable to a light dusting with steel wool.

Thanks,

Skip Montanaro
Evanston, IL
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=259272 http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=259273

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PalmettoUpstate 07-05-12 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by PalmettoUpstate (Post 14429178)
Been looking for an ideal Sports model Raleigh for my definitely better half and found one outside Asheville about 3-4 weeks ago. Can someone tell this Luddite how to post pics here? If not, I can create-a-link to FLICKR I guess....

26" Blue Metallic, B-72, original Brooks seat post bag...

PIC - [of the blue Sports and more - our "living room" bikes -ha-ha!]
http://www.flickr.com/photos/5340652...in/photostream

jamesj 07-05-12 10:01 PM

So I have a question on cotters.

I looked through the threads and still am having problems. a couple of years ago I had crank arm movement in the non drive side and had a bike shop look at it, they replaced the cotter but the cranks were noticeably not parallel to each other. I dealt with it, well Im tired of it and want to replace it, they only replaced that pin and not the other. Now im trying to get the cranks in line with each other but still nothing. I even filed the pin and it worked but the end that sticks out is to far in.
I read that it is good idea to replace both to get them parallel with each other and im thinking this is the case to get them in line. has anyone done just one side or do you all replace both at the same time to get them 180 degrees apart.


I hope this makes sense.

Sixty Fiver 07-05-12 11:52 PM

When you replace cotters you should do it in pairs and use quality cotter pins.

jamesj 07-06-12 12:30 AM


Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver (Post 14445609)
When you replace cotters you should do it in pairs and use quality cotter pins.


I believe that is what I am going to have to do is replace both. It seems in my head that will correct the problem I'm having, I'll take a photo tommorow. I probally only recieved the cheap grade from the bike shop here in the valley.

Sixty Fiver 07-06-12 12:34 AM


Originally Posted by jamesj (Post 14445663)
I believe that is what I am going to have to do is replace both. It seems in my head that will correct the problem I'm having, I'll take a photo tommorow. I probally only recieved the cheap grade from the bike shop here in the valley.

Bikesmith offers high quality cotter pins... they are worth it if you do not have a source of other quality cotter pins.

wahoonc 07-06-12 05:43 AM


Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver (Post 14445670)
Bikesmith offers high quality cotter pins... they are worth it if you do not have a source of other quality cotter pins.

+ a whole bunch!

I have been messing with cotters for over 30 years, I have no issues using cotters, but like everything else there is a learning curve. Buy your cotters from BikeSmith Design, also read his page on them. This is a case where quality really does make a difference and you get what you pay for. I have almost always replaced cotters in pairs.

Aaron :)

GordoTrek 07-06-12 06:26 AM

i ran into the same issues with cotters, bought the cheapos from my lbs, then went and got some on amazon, then realized i was pissing money away and got the grade A pre filed cotters from bikesmith, which also fit the r nuts,


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