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Gasbag 08-02-15 09:22 AM

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Here is a photo of my 1969 DL1. I bought it from the original owner who claimed it had only been ridden twice. It traveled all across the country in several household moves and wasn't stored as well as it could have been. It has a fair amount of scratches and required a full service and detailing. It never was equipped with a side stand. I bought a Greenfield stand for it and had to spend a bit of time with my die grinder to make it fit between the chain stay and the brake rod.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=468594

Gasbag 08-02-15 09:26 AM

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Last but not least, my 1948 CWS. As you can see it is still in project state. I'm taking my time with this one. Ordered a set of cotters for it this morning because I didn't like the way the originals were fitting. I'll do a full write up after it is officially completed.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=468596

BigChief 08-02-15 12:29 PM

Wow, beautiful bikes. where in the world did you ever find a Ulster hand crank set? The original on my Rudge was replaced at some point in the past with a 44T generic star pattern one. I'd swap it out in a heartbeat, but I haven't found even the more common 48T original yet.

jamesj 08-02-15 12:32 PM

drove to Tucson yesterday to pick up this Superbe, it is going to need some work. The rear hub is rough, probably from no oil, seems to stick, might add some oil to see what happens. Also the front wheel dynohub is rocking, like it wasn't adjusted properly. Missing things, rear rack, pump, part of the self adjusting lever, and red plastic cover for rear light. The paint is good and nice, lightly faded on the top tube. other than that it is in nice shape.

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/411/2...ecfc6c93_b.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/404/1...e9533234_c.jpg

NormanF 08-02-15 12:39 PM

It would take a lot work to make it rideable.

I invested in a GT Eightball, which with a few mods will serve nicely as a Raleigh Superbe/Sports replacement.

Gasbag 08-02-15 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by BigChief (Post 18036909)
Wow, beautiful bikes. where in the world did you ever find a Ulster hand crank set? The original on my Rudge was replaced at some point in the past with a 44T generic star pattern one. I'd swap it out in a heartbeat, but I haven't found even the more common 48T original yet.

The Rudge has been a bike of luck from the beginning. I bought it from the original owners daughter and it had been in their basement since the mid-sixties. Price paid was $30. The chain ring popped up on EBay with a buy it now of $30. The rack came from a Superbe I bought for $50 that had a bent frame. The mint condition Brooks B67 from the bent Superbe is on the CWS.

noglider 08-02-15 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by Gasbag (Post 18036979)
The Rudge has been a bike of luck from the beginning. I bought it from the original owners daughter and it had been in their basement since the mid-sixties. Price paid was $30. The chain ring popped up on EBay with a buy it now of $30. The rack came from a Superbe I bought for $50 that had a bent frame. The mint condition Brooks B67 from the bent Superbe is on the CWS.

That's quite a bit of luck, especially $30 for the Hand chainring.

Gasbag 08-02-15 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by noglider (Post 18036991)
That's quite a bit of luck, especially $30 for the Hand chainring.

Like the song says, "sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug". There are an awful lot of bug days in between the windshield days :rolleyes:

michaelz28 08-02-15 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by browngw (Post 18035278)
I re-built an old 60's vintage Top-Lite with a modified socket and LED flashlight bulb that fits on the old brackets. I have been moving it around and would love to find some more.
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=468520

It is still powered by two D cells.

this lantern came on my 74 sports . it never had a battery leak . it still had its original instructions inside with original bulbs .http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...psdmseomwq.jpghttp://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...psvk09o0lx.jpghttp://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...psxuadkosv.jpg

arex 08-02-15 03:14 PM


Originally Posted by Gasbag (Post 18036979)
The Rudge has been a bike of luck from the beginning. I bought it from the original owners daughter and it had been in their basement since the mid-sixties. Price paid was $30. The chain ring popped up on EBay with a buy it now of $30. The rack came from a Superbe I bought for $50 that had a bent frame. The mint condition Brooks B67 from the bent Superbe is on the CWS.

Sweet bikes.

jamesj 08-02-15 07:37 PM

Started taking the Superbe apart turns out it is a 1974. The stem was stuck but finally got it out with some WD-40. The thing is covered in grease, needs to be washed and polished. The paint like I said is pretty darn good. The front wheel needs to be adjusted and the rear needs oil.

here are some pics. Even took some awesome black and white stuff.

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3766/...54bb5382_c.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/447/2...e024274d_c.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/522/2...e8799bbc_c.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/451/1...66caaeea_c.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/395/2...cbcdf0dc_c.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/519/2...08cdddf4_c.jpg

michaelz28 08-02-15 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by jamesj (Post 18037899)
Started taking the Superbe apart turns out it is a 1974. The stem was stuck but finally got it out with some WD-40. The thing is covered in grease, needs to be washed and polished. The paint like I said is pretty darn good. The front wheel needs to be adjusted and the rear needs oil.

here are some pics. Even took some awesome black and white stuff.

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3766/...54bb5382_c.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/447/2...e024274d_c.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/522/2...e8799bbc_c.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/451/1...66caaeea_c.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/395/2...cbcdf0dc_c.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/519/2...08cdddf4_c.jpg

that's nice . I have a 74 also . a sports . your decal looks like its in a different location than mine ? http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...ps5pxv3y1t.jpg

smontanaro 08-02-15 08:40 PM

What type of lock is this? The bike was left on my son's front lawn. It's a Panther Luxus-Sport Klasse, according to Jake. If his attempts to contact the owner via the local PD and Craigslist are fruitless, how does he unlock/disable the lock?

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-q...802_183455.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-f...802_183703.jpg

dweenk 08-03-15 06:22 AM

^^^^^^^

That is a Tres Lock. I have one on a Raleigh, but fortunately it is in the unlocked position. That type of lock mechanism does not appear to be too complicated, so you may be able to jimmy it open with a bent wire or a modified luggage key. Worst case - hacksaw or grind off the part that protrudes into the path of the spokes.

smontanaro 08-03-15 02:06 PM

@dweenk Thanks. Passed along to Jake.

dweenk 08-03-15 02:58 PM

That is an interesting bike. Does it have 24" wheels, or oversize tires?

dweenk 08-03-15 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by dweenk (Post 18023775)
First thing yesterday morning, an ad popped up in the local CL for a Raleigh Tourist - asking price $100. The photos looked like everything was in order, so I wasted no time in contacting the seller. We made arrangements to meet as soon as he returned from work that afternoon. I tried the bike and everything was in good order, so I didn't waste time by haggling over the price. Here are some "as found" photos.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=467771http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=467772http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=467773http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=467774http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=467775http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=467776http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=467777http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=467778

Does anyone have suggestions on the best place to find replacement consumables (tires, tubes, brake pads)? Also, is there an easy method to remove the wheels (without completely removing the brake pads) for tire repair/changes?

Sorry to quote myself but I located the serial number (MS000547). The hub corroborates that, having a date of (80, 1). So I suppose I have a 1980 Malaysian made Tourist.

BigChief 08-03-15 04:48 PM

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Every Raleigh badged bike from Asia I've ever seen bore little resemblance to the English made models. Here's an example. Your bike looks English to me.http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=468948http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=468949

smontanaro 08-03-15 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by dweenk (Post 18040995)
That is an interesting bike. Does it have 24" wheels, or oversize tires?

Jake says the tires are 26x1.75...

jamesj 08-03-15 10:30 PM

my Raleigh that I was hit on was exactly like this one.

Gasbag 08-04-15 04:10 AM


Originally Posted by dweenk (Post 18041021)
Sorry to quote myself but I located the serial number (MS000547). The hub corroborates that, having a date of (80, 1). So I suppose I have a 1980 Malaysian made Tourist.

That would be Malaysia (M), December (S), 1980 (O) production # 00547 . Raleigh Serial Numbers & Charts
Eleven months passed between hub production and frame stamping.

Are the brakes oriented rear right hand, front left hand? That is a good clue to whether the bike was built for USA import or came to our shores as someones personal belonging. It only applies to countries such as England that drive opposite of us. My CWS is LH rear brake, RH front brake.

BigChief 08-04-15 06:04 AM


Originally Posted by Gasbag (Post 18042494)
That would be Malaysia (M), December (S), 1980 (O) production # 00547 . Raleigh Serial Numbers & Charts
Eleven months passed between hub production and frame stamping.

Are the brakes oriented rear right hand, front left hand? That is a good clue to whether the bike was built for USA import or came to our shores as someones personal belonging. It only applies to countries such as England that drive opposite of us. My CWS is LH rear brake, RH front brake.

Every bike I've ever had used the right hand lever for the rear brake...except the rod brakes on my DL-1. Always thought that was odd. Mine is a 1973 export model with the hockey stick chainguard.

Gasbag 08-04-15 06:35 AM


Originally Posted by BigChief (Post 18042670)
Every bike I've ever had used the right hand lever for the rear brake...except the rod brakes on my DL-1. Always thought that was odd. Mine is a 1973 export model with the hockey stick chainguard.

The plot thickens. I just checked both of my DL-1s and the 1969 mens frame is lh rear brake and the 1972 loop frame is RH rear brake. It is my understanding that in England and Japan LH rear brake is mandated for safety as they hand signal their intentions with the right hand.

It just occurred to me that the original owner of the 1969 DL-1 was of Asian descent and his accent was strong suggesting he may have immigrated. So who knows on that one?

dweenk 08-04-15 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by Gasbag (Post 18042494)
That would be Malaysia (M), December (S), 1980 (O) production # 00547 . Raleigh Serial Numbers & Charts
Eleven months passed between hub production and frame stamping.

Are the brakes oriented rear right hand, front left hand? That is a good clue to whether the bike was built for USA import or came to our shores as someones personal belonging. It only applies to countries such as England that drive opposite of us. My CWS is LH rear brake, RH front brake.

The brakes are LH front, RH rear.

BigChief 08-04-15 11:25 AM

I never noticed this before, but do you suppose it was deliberate on Raleigh's part to rout the brake cables differently than the home market for bikes exported to America? Didn't do a lot of research, but the English catalogs I see on line all show right hand to front cable routing and the American catalogs show right hand to rear. That would explain the the right hand to front brakes on my DL-1. Right hand to front was the standard and they just didn't bother to change the rod linkage for export.


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