Bike Forums

Bike Forums (https://www.bikeforums.net/forum.php)
-   Classic & Vintage (https://www.bikeforums.net/forumdisplay.php?f=181)
-   -   For the love of English 3 speeds... (https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=623699)

paulb_in_bkln 04-10-19 07:05 AM


Originally Posted by nlerner (Post 20875957)
I appreciate the support! I also did that conversion on a Peugeot back in the fall:
That one has 590mm/EA3 wheels. I fitted the Moto with a 650B/584mm x 38mm wheelset, and there's oodles of clearance. It would take 42mm tires no problem. What is a problem, however, is the rear brake reach needed is about 83mm. I'll likely try it with a Weinmann 750 brake and a pair of those offset pads for a bit more reach.

The temporary tire I've put on the back of the Pug mixte is marked 700c x 38 but it measures 35 mm. That's about as big as I need but there's clearance for a few more millimeters of tire, if I wanted that. The Mafac Racers have plenty of reach for the 4 mm difference between the new 700c and the original 27 wheels, but I don't think they would manage a 650. I've read that if I withdraw the shim in the seat tube then I could use a 1-inch seatpost, and as long ones are available in alloy in that size it's something I'm thinking about. I would welcome a fine lugged mixte frame but those are so hard to find. BTW, riding home last night I passed a bike that resembles your white Pug a lot. It had the black lugs on the head tube and the forged dropouts with derailleur hanger but in back they weren't chromed. My mind turned only briefly to bike theft.

gster 04-10-19 07:06 AM


Originally Posted by clubman (Post 20878007)
Bondbrized? No space between finest and quality. Leave that one off if you go that route.

I wondered about that as well...
Bonderized?

gster 04-10-19 07:11 AM

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...23b8568d75.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...fef0d93464.jpg

paulb_in_bkln 04-10-19 07:22 AM

A smidgen of black Sharpie could make that BONDERIZED.

gster 04-10-19 07:53 AM

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a49303f6b1.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...605921cf86.jpg

3speedslow 04-10-19 08:27 AM


Originally Posted by gster (Post 20877960)

Wow, nice original condition! Still with their pumps too. Gotta find me a pump for mine.

they look early 70ís to me.

MaxKatt 04-10-19 11:09 AM

I always saw this thread, but never looked. Apparently, with my latest n+1 I've joined your club.

Wanted a beater/station bike with a basket for my girlfriend for her birthday. I have one that's a re-purposed mountain bike that went unclaimed after our co-op's purge of shared storage space a few years ago.

She had seen something she liked at a friend's house, but just missed the opportunity. Thinking nobody would want it, friend told the people in the process of buying the house they could have it. !?!?

Went on Craig's list to find something similar and found what I believe is a 1958 Raleigh Lady Armstrong. It's definitely a '58, as we can see that on the hub. Head badge and some reflectors missing. Seat not original. Still...it's cooler than something I would have gotten at Modells and less likely to be stolen on grocery runs.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8a2678098e.png
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...aacd5159dc.png

gster 04-10-19 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by MaxKatt (Post 20878459)
I always saw this thread, but never looked. Apparently, with my latest n+1 I've joined your club.

Wanted a beater/station bike with a basket for my girlfriend for her birthday. I have one that's a re-purposed mountain bike that went unclaimed after our co-op's purge of shared storage space a few years ago.

She had seen something she liked at a friend's house, but just missed the opportunity. Thinking nobody would want it, friend told the people in the process of buying the house they could have it. !?!?

Went on Craig's list to find something similar and found what I believe is a 1958 Raleigh Lady Armstrong. It's definitely a '58, as we can see that on the hub. Head badge and some reflectors missing. Seat not original. Still...it's cooler than something I would have gotten at Modells and less likely to be stolen on grocery runs.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8a2678098e.png
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...aacd5159dc.png

Nice bike!
I'd still get a good lock.
They steal anything these days.

clubman 04-10-19 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by MaxKatt (Post 20878459)
I always saw this thread, but never looked. Apparently, with my latest n+1 I've joined your club.



Went on Craig's list to find something similar and found what I believe is a 1958 Raleigh Lady Armstrong. It's definitely a '58, as we can see that on the hub. Head badge and some reflectors missing. Seat not original. Still...it's cooler than something I would have gotten at Modells and less likely to be stolen on grocery runs.

Cool bike. Two tips, a '58 may have an SW 3 speed hub which is prone to failure but easily replaced with an AW if it does. The SW hub may work just fine. Regardless of model, put a few drops of lightweight oil in the filler. Also oil the rear brake housing at the back. Water seeps in there into the loop and rusts the cable solid.

dweenk 04-10-19 12:39 PM

^^^^ Love that chain ring.
I have a 1969 23" men's Armstrong, but it has a plain chain ring.

MaxKatt 04-10-19 02:14 PM


Originally Posted by clubman (Post 20878595)
Cool bike. Two tips, a '58 may have an SW 3 speed hub which is prone to failure but easily replaced with an AW if it does. The SW hub may work just fine. Regardless of model, put a few drops of lightweight oil in the filler. Also oil the rear brake housing at the back. Water seeps in there into the loop and rusts the cable solid.


Thanks fort the tips. I know there are apparently some ports to put oil right into the hubs or something. Honestly, I have zero wrench ability, so hopefully nothing goes wrong. Immediately after buying it however, I took it to my guy (Bob at Hastings Velo) for a check-up. He's the best mechanic I know. I don't know that there's a bike or mechanism he hasn't seen or worked with. He gave it a look and made sure it was safe and functional, so I should be good at least out of the gate here for a while. It won't be seeing lots of miles.

I'd never trash it though. If it ceased working for us, I'd move it on Craig's list or Ebay to someone else who might be able to do more with it.

ryansu 04-10-19 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by nlerner (Post 20875611)
Picked up this Moto Grand Record frameset this weekend and am thinking of a possible IGH conversion (and maybe 650B?). The paint is original.

https://live.staticflickr.com/7920/4...66caa548_c.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/7899/3...566ba31c_c.jpg

Envy, as the proud Owner of a 78 Moto_GT I often look for the next step up the line and I hardly ever see Grand Records and virtually never in my size - that appears to be a 23" frame...? Look forward to your resto

BigChief 04-10-19 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by MaxKatt (Post 20878459)
I always saw this thread, but never looked. Apparently, with my latest n+1 I've joined your club.

Wanted a beater/station bike with a basket for my girlfriend for her birthday. I have one that's a re-purposed mountain bike that went unclaimed after our co-op's purge of shared storage space a few years ago.

She had seen something she liked at a friend's house, but just missed the opportunity. Thinking nobody would want it, friend told the people in the process of buying the house they could have it. !?!?

Went on Craig's list to find something similar and found what I believe is a 1958 Raleigh Lady Armstrong. It's definitely a '58, as we can see that on the hub. Head badge and some reflectors missing. Seat not original. Still...it's cooler than something I would have gotten at Modells and less likely to be stolen on grocery runs.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8a2678098e.png
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...aacd5159dc.png

This bike is pre-Raleigh. Likely made in Birmingham. The later Raleigh made Armstrongs aren't as desirable as this one. With a fresh servicing, these can be a comfortable and pleasant ride. The original finish looks very classy.

noglider 04-10-19 06:26 PM

@nlerner, I put extra long reach dual pivot brakes on a bike. They were no-name cheapos, and they worked darned well, so that's a possibility for you.

browngw 04-11-19 10:09 AM

Tool Storage
 
It is always interesting to see other workspaces and tool storage options. To conserve space and sanity in my 16x24 garage that stores one car in winter and houses the family car, plus keeps the TR7 and bikes all summer, all of my bike tools and equipment is in/on a mobile steel cart measuring 28"x20". A woodworker vise with wood jaws doubles as a holder for the truing stand which can also be stored underneath. A 4" ABS drain pipe coupling makes tire changing easy as the axle/ freewheel is supported.https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...96c9d1f508.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f6001e83a0.jpg

52telecaster 04-11-19 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by noglider (Post 20879091)
@nlerner, I put extra long reach dual pivot brakes on a bike. They were no-name cheapos, and they worked darned well, so that's a possibility for you.

ive had good luck as well with off brand dual pivots

paulb_in_bkln 04-11-19 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by browngw (Post 20879988)
It is always interesting to see other workspaces and tool storage options. To conserve space and sanity in my 16x24 garage that stores one car in winter and houses the family car, plus keeps the TR7 and bikes all summer, all of my bike tools and equipment is in/on a mobile steel cart measuring 28"x20". A woodworker vise with wood jaws doubles as a holder for the truing stand which can also be stored underneath. A 4" ABS drain pipe coupling makes tire changing easy as the axle/ freewheel is supported.https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...96c9d1f508.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f6001e83a0.jpg

Having an envy meltdown.

Ballenxj 04-11-19 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by browngw (Post 20879988)
It is always interesting to see other workspaces and tool storage options. To conserve space and sanity in my 16x24 garage that stores one car in winter and houses the family car, plus keeps the TR7 and bikes all summer, all of my bike tools and equipment is in/on a mobile steel cart measuring 28"x20". A woodworker vise with wood jaws doubles as a holder for the truing stand which can also be stored underneath. A 4" ABS drain pipe coupling makes tire changing easy as the axle/ freewheel is supported.

Very tidy, and useful looking work space. It's nice to have all your needed tools at your fingertips. :thumb:

gster 04-11-19 04:53 PM

1930 Hercules
Taking a tip from browngw .
Clamping the fender sideways to reshape.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...eab0984289.jpg

BigChief 04-11-19 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by paulb_in_bkln (Post 20880090)
Having an envy meltdown.

Don't let it bother you You're not alone. Not all of us here are that neat and well organized.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...21445a41e3.jpg

gster 04-11-19 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by BigChief (Post 20880718)
Don't let it bother you You're not alone. Not all of us here are that neat and well organized.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...21445a41e3.jpg

Wow!
You got a vice!!

3speedslow 04-11-19 07:29 PM

I’ve been spending some time going down the Twenty, folder, shopper rabbit hole of our brethren across the pond. Some wild forums where these guys are dragging these bikes home seems like a couple times a week. It stands to figure they are abundant over there and not just made by Raleigh.

its quite entertaining what all they do to these. Side by side builds, small tandems made and one bloke whose homemade jet engine got him just about launched!

nlerner 04-11-19 08:39 PM

Here's a "gem" on Boston's CL:

https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/bi...858120544.html

https://images.craigslist.org/00404_...es_600x450.jpg

If it were closer, I'd be tempted just for those parts, particularly the 5-speed shifters and the chain case.

browngw 04-11-19 09:20 PM


Originally Posted by gster (Post 20880695)
1930 Hercules
Taking a tip from browngw .
Clamping the fender sideways to reshape.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...eab0984289.jpg

How is it working? It can be a tedious process. I likely spend more time than I should trying to capture the elusive perfect fender line.

gster 04-11-19 09:27 PM


Originally Posted by browngw (Post 20881007)
How is it working? It can be a tedious process. I likely spend more time than I should trying to capture the elusive perfect fender line.

I think I need multiple clamps on this....

thumpism 04-12-19 02:25 AM


Originally Posted by gster (Post 20880794)
Wow!
You got a vice!!

We all do, it's called "bicycles." That's a vise on the bench.

gster 04-12-19 06:40 AM


Originally Posted by thumpism (Post 20881176)
We all do, it's called "bicycles." That's a vise on the bench.

That's good.

browngw 04-12-19 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by gster (Post 20881285)
That's good.

That "vice" on your bench can also be used to squeeze your "mudguard".:)

BigChief 04-12-19 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by gster (Post 20880794)
Wow!
You got a vice!!

Ah yes, I have many vices. :rolleyes:

3speedslow 04-12-19 12:41 PM

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...40f6d1852.jpeg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...7475c2b63.jpeg
DIY folder geek project

i know I want a mud flap on my Twenty but havenít gotten around to procuring one. Had an idea while rummaging around kitchen. Took one of the many soft rubber pads used to grip jar lids with while opening and used it. Everybody has those to give out at stores and street festivals. So many colours and shapes too.

Found a brass and SS wire clip for this. Measure the slit needed and cut enough for it to slip in. Put together and installed on the front fork.

Will see eventually how it holds up and does itís job!


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:30 PM.


Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.