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AOSTIRMOTOR 07-21-22 08:09 PM

The Importance Of Bike Chains
 
The chain is the most easily worn and stained part in cycling, and it is also the most tangled and troublesome part for riders. It is completely exposed during riding, and riding in a variety of environments will be directly affected by the environment.

If the chain is not well maintained, it will not only affect the life of the chain and derailleur, but also affect the riding feeling because the chain is not smooth enough. Therefore, the maintenance of the chain is extremely critical in daily maintenance.

For chain maintenance, a lot depends on the environment and conditions you are riding. Riding in wet and muddy conditions requires more maintenance than on dry roads.

Chuck M 07-21-22 08:14 PM

:popcorn
Given how the last bot thread went several pages before it got shut down and the way folks argue about chain lube, this should be interesting.

rsbob 07-21-22 08:15 PM

Amen

phughes 07-21-22 08:20 PM

Could it be that someone is yanking said chain?

mstateglfr 07-21-22 08:36 PM

This thread should be short since the OP states facts, says nothing controversial, and asks no question.

Troul 07-21-22 08:37 PM

is there a missing link to this thread?

cyccommute 07-21-22 08:41 PM


Originally Posted by AOSTIRMOTOR (Post 22583065)
The chain is the most easily worn and stained part in cycling, and it is also the most tangled and troublesome part for riders. It is completely exposed during riding, and riding in a variety of environments will be directly affected by the environment.

It’s only troublesome because people make it that way. A chain is a wear item. You can do nothing to make keep the chain from wearing. Obsessing about chain maintenance won’t change anything. Chains last about 3500 miles no matter what secret sauce you use on them. Wax? The wax moves out of the pressure points and leads to metal on metal wear. The result? The chain elongates about 1% by 3500 miles and needs to be replaced. Oil? The oil collects grit, pumps it into the internals of the chain where the grit…generally quartz which is harder than the steel…where wears down the metal. The result? The chain elongates about 1% by 3500 miles.

The bottom line is that nothing you do will make the chain last longer. No lubricant is superior to any other. If one were, wouldn’t we all be using it?


If the chain is not well maintained, it will not only affect the life of the chain and derailleur, but also affect the riding feeling because the chain is not smooth enough. Therefore, the maintenance of the chain is extremely critical in daily maintenance.
Chains don’t need “daily maintenance”. They don’t need weekly maintenance. If anything, especially with oil, daily maintenance can make matters worse. More oil just attracts more grit with leads to faster wear…although only slightly accelerated. Daily maintenance with liquid wax lubricants leads to annoying wax build ups.

The amount of electrons that are killed to discuss chain maintenance is basically a waste of time. Accept that chains wear. Accept that you can’t do much to change that. Put down the chain lube and rags and go ride. Buy cheap chains because they wear at the same rate as expensive ones.

cyccommute 07-21-22 08:42 PM


Originally Posted by mstateglfr (Post 22583098)
This thread should be short since the OP states facts, says nothing controversial, and asks no question.

You underestimate the massacre of electrons that is going to happen. I predict at least 4 pages.

Paul Barnard 07-21-22 08:49 PM

I spend just a little more than no time putzing with my chain, and have never had any issues. That's not quite true. I did putz with a chain one time and didn't put it back together right and it seperated at the link I jacked with.

Rogerogeroge 07-21-22 08:49 PM

One significant disadvantage of bents is that they have tremendously long chains. Adds loads of weight, takes longer and more energy to spin up, and I could go on and on.

Homebrew01 07-21-22 08:52 PM

I get 3,507 miles with my homebrewed chain lube.

ThermionicScott 07-21-22 08:56 PM


Originally Posted by Chuck M (Post 22583074)
:popcorn
Given how the last bot thread went several pages before it got shut down and the way folks argue about chain lube, this should be interesting.

Do you think anyone will get bent in this thread?

koala logs 07-21-22 09:12 PM

We're seeing a pandemic of useless threads.

70sSanO 07-21-22 09:37 PM

And the chain on the bike goes round and round all through the town.

John

big john 07-21-22 09:57 PM

Maybe I haven't been paying attention, but what's with this type of thread?

zandoval 07-21-22 10:03 PM

Lube it allot...
Clean it when dirty...
Replace it when worn...

Not too hard to figure out.

cyccommute 07-21-22 10:08 PM


Originally Posted by koala logs (Post 22583133)
We're seeing a pandemic of useless threads.

:rolleyes: Newbies!

Outrider1 07-21-22 10:17 PM

Everything is over thought. See?

Paul Barnard 07-21-22 10:29 PM


Originally Posted by Outrider1 (Post 22583187)
Everything is over thought. See?

I need to ponder that a bit longer.

PDKL45 07-21-22 10:57 PM


Originally Posted by big john (Post 22583172)
Maybe I haven't been paying attention, but what's with this type of thread?

I'm assuming it's posted by an algorithm, rather than an actual human. For what reason I don't really know, if it's not trying to leave spam links. The original text is here: News - Bicycle maintenance and repair – chain brush (bicycle-tools.com)

It's one of those bare bones websites run by companies that usually sell on Aliexpress/eBay and is probably translated from Chinese. Chains don't get "stained" in the traditional sense, nor are they usually "tangled" if they're connected as a single piece and in place within the drivetrain.

Maybe it's posted by a human working in a second or third language? Who--or what--ever posted it did actually trim the language down a little from the original, in that they left out some of the wackier translated text which is on the verge of being acceptable grammatically and logically, but just doesn't get over the line:

"At present, there are more and more people riding bicycles. Every time they see a rider passing by, they always feel a sense of joy. Cycling can add fun to busy urban life. It can not only exercise, recuperate body and mind, but also Get to know more riders while riding, and bring the happiness of cycling to our life. However, many riders do not have much knowledge of bicycle maintenance, and sometimes it is even a thorny issue."

God knows, but whatever it is, it seems tamer than the insane Korean spambot that used to terrorize the MTBR forums.

wolfchild 07-22-22 04:23 AM

Another toilet bowl thread.....Next thread: " Importance of chain lubes".

wolfchild 07-22-22 04:34 AM


Originally Posted by koala logs (Post 22583133)
We're seeing a pandemic of useless threads.

Some of them started by you.

wolfchild 07-22-22 05:01 AM


Originally Posted by cyccommute (Post 22583183)
:rolleyes: Newbies!

Everybody was a newbie at some point...the problem here is that some of these newbies post or ask something silly and never ever come back to participate in the topic which they started. Another serious issue is newbies gives training, nutrition and bike handling advice.

seypat 07-22-22 05:08 AM

Everyone reading the thread must send the link to 10 people. If they don't, something bad will happen. :cry:

Bogey Speedwell 07-22-22 05:09 AM


Originally Posted by Chuck M (Post 22583074)
:popcorn
Given how the last bot thread went several pages before it got shut down and the way folks argue about chain lube, this should be interesting.

not only that but, how some get offended by another’s choice of lube😆


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