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L134 10-03-23 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by Aardwolf (Post 23032521)
I think I hit the same offer:
2023 May 21st
Merlin Cycles
Jantex tub tape white £3.59 (instead of £7.99)
Just checked the link and price hasn't changed :)
One roll does 2 rims.

https://www.merlincycles.com/velox-j...ape-81504.html

I believe they are getting out of tubulars and probably just clearing related inventory. Get it while you can.

awrycycle 10-05-23 06:49 AM

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...072411649.jpeg
no good? considering some sealant to get some more use of out of this one, but the sides feel a bit crinkly when flexed.

Classtime 10-05-23 07:32 AM

Take it easy on that one!

pastorbobnlnh 10-05-23 07:42 AM

awrycycle try painting latex (the kind used by makeup artists) on the side walls, as well. You should be able to extend the life for another thousand miles or more. :innocent:

MooneyBloke 10-05-23 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by awrycycle (Post 23034378)
considering some sealant to get some more use of out of this one, but the sides feel a bit crinkly when flexed.

If the sidewalls are that shot, I'd be leery of trusting any of the rubber.

1989Pre 10-10-23 04:51 AM

I just have to ask: What is the rationale for even considering using the tire in post #3102? If that had been a clincher, I would have thrown it out a year ago, even with a wire bead.

pastorbobnlnh 10-10-23 05:05 AM


Originally Posted by 1989Pre (Post 23038614)
I just have to ask: What is the rationale for even considering using the tire in post #3102? If that had been a clincher, I would have thrown it out a year ago, even with a wire bead.

I'm pretty certain awrycycle was being "funny" (in a dry humor sort of way) about continuing to use that tubular. A ;) or a :innocent: could have been a helpful clue.

However, some folks don't even seem to understand Smilies. :foo: Just look at the post after my response. The member thought I was being serious. I was just trying to go along with the original humor.

1989Pre 10-10-23 05:27 AM


Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh (Post 23038618)
I'm pretty certain awrycycle was being "funny" (in a dry humor sort of way) about continuing to use that tubular. A ;) or a :innocent: could have been a helpful clue.

However, some folks don't even seem to understand Smilies. :foo: Just look at the post after my response. The member thought I was being serious. I was just trying to go along with the original humor.

Oh, wow. I feel like such a "tubular newbie"! By-the-way, I think emoticons are under-rated. I wish we could import the great ones that Yahoo Messenger used to have. Right now, I'd select the "D'oh!" one of the guy ducking.

smontanaro 10-10-23 05:50 AM


Originally Posted by 1989Pre (Post 23038632)
Oh, wow. I feel like such a "tubular newbie"! By-the-way, I think emoticons are under-rated. I wish we could import the great ones that Yahoo Messenger used to have. Right now, I'd select the "D'oh!" one of the guy ducking.

I've often wanted a :dopeslap: emoticon, generally applied to myself...

kcblair 10-10-23 07:15 AM

Hello Tubular fans, Question, I saw a tubeless tire repair kit, on Cycling News. Question ,could this be used to patch a tub on the road ? The reason I ask, is I had a Tufo S33, that had a very small puncture. The Stan's sealant did not seal very well, but did stop enough to get me home. Air it up and held air . Once on the road, it opened up again. I stopped, put the tub down (6 O'clock) , the leak sealed , only to open again. I inspected the tub, and found nothing at the puncture site . So, in the trash , the tire went . I am, now using Tufo sealant in my tubs.
Thanks so much for your replies.

1989Pre 10-10-23 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by kcblair (Post 23038683)
Hello Tubular fans, Question, I saw a tubeless tire repair kit, on Cycling News. Question ,could this be used to patch a tub on the road ? The reason I ask, is I had a Tufo S33, that had a very small puncture. The Stan's sealant did not seal very well, but did stop enough to get me home. Air it up and held air . Once on the road, it opened up again. I stopped, put the tub down (6 O'clock) , the leak sealed , only to open again. I inspected the tub, and found nothing at the puncture site . So, in the trash , the tire went . I am, now using Tufo sealant in my tubs.
Thanks so much for your replies.

I wish I could help, but just installed my first set of tubulars, so I know little. I just wanted to say that posts like yours (and their replies) are like gold for me, because they help me out in what to expect (in this case, the potential performance of the Stan's).

pastorbobnlnh 10-10-23 12:16 PM

In my limited experience with using leak stopper such as Stans, Tufo, etc., be careful because if your bike is parked long enough, the sealant migrates to the lowest point and the sealant hardens, which In turn ruins the tube and tire balance.

spclark 10-10-23 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by kcblair (Post 23038683)
Question, I saw a tubeless tire repair kit, on Cycling News. Question ,could this be used to patch a tub on the road ?

Yes, that's their purpose after all.

It's certainly easier to patch a tubular when not out on the road but I've done it, once, decades ago. Takes patience, a job not to be rushed else it's likely that in your haste you'll do more damage. My take is better to have a spare tubed tire ready to swap for the leaker then save the repair job for later once you're back to shelter.

PastorBob's comment makes me a little more reluctant to try getting sealant into any of the tubulars I have on hand now. Winter's coming, neither of my two rides will see much use once temps get to 40įF or below for the days' high. With them idle for a few months I don't want to get either out next spring only to find I have a hard spot throwing a wheel out of balance.

I have plans to build a set of clinchers over winter for the Motobecane that's worn tubulars since... forever. As much for the different experience of riding on them for casual, recreational use as for the easier operation of swapping in a fresh tube if I should suffer a puncture down some road. Tubes are lighter, easier to bring along 'just in case' than a tubular tire.

Classtime 10-10-23 01:28 PM

I think TL repair kits use a plug. To use on a tubular, you would have to get the plug into the puncture of the tube in a tubular tire and it would have to stay there while you are riding? Not likely to work.

DiabloScott 10-10-23 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by Classtime (Post 23039021)
I think TL repair kits use a plug. To use on a tubular, you would have to get the plug into the puncture of the tube in a tubular tire and it would have to stay there while you are riding? Not likely to work.

The question was for Tufo, which is a tubeless tubular. So I think it might work, certainly worth a shot if the alternative is to trash bin an otherwise good tire.

​​​​kcblair give it a go and take good notes and photos and come back here with your report. Nice to have a new topic inside this thread.

kcblair 10-10-23 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by DiabloScott (Post 23039027)
The question was for Tufo, which is a tubeless tubular. So I think it might work, certainly worth a shot if the alternative is to trash bin an otherwise good tire.

​​​​kcblair give it a go and take good notes and photos and come back here with your report. Nice to have a new topic inside this thread.

Sure will, I'm pulling the leaking tub out of the trash as a test subject. Need to order a tubeless plug kit.KB

kcblair 10-10-23 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by Classtime (Post 23039021)
I think TL repair kits use a plug. To use on a tubular, you would have to get the plug into the puncture of the tube in a tubular tire and it would have to stay there while you are riding? Not likely to work.

Tufo tubular are one piece, no inner tube. The reason I'm tossing this idea out here. Thanks. KB

kcblair 10-10-23 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh (Post 23038956)
In my limited experience with using leak stopper such as Stans, Tufo, etc., be careful because if your bike is parked long enough, the sealant migrates to the lowest point and the sealant hardens, which In turn ruins the tube and tire balance.

Thanks Pastor Bob. If anyone would know, I knew you would. I haven't used tubs in 3 years and though it was time to replace the leaking one. I still have spares, I can't seem to use or get rid of, so I checked the good one, already mounted and open the valve core at 6 o'clock and Stan's came squirting out. So that must still be good. I'm putting Tufo in the new tub.

At age 76, I don't have the strength to mount a spare on the road. My son had to help my get the replacement on and stretched . In order to use up my stock of tubs , I only have 3 options on the road, hope Tufo sealant will hold, try a tubeless plug, or call 911 (the support vehicle , i.e. the wife ) . I might test a plug on the leaking tub I just removed. I still have a set of Conti's mounted, to use.

Thanks so much.KB

1989Pre 10-10-23 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh (Post 23038956)
In my limited experience with using leak stopper such as Stans, Tufo, etc., be careful because if your bike is parked long enough, the sealant migrates to the lowest point and the sealant hardens, which In turn ruins the tube and tire balance.

Important information for me. That does it: I'm going to start carrying a spare tire.

kcblair 10-10-23 02:32 PM

Hey guys, just watched a YT vid on this product from Muc-off "Stealth Tubeless Puncture Plug 75% Off ◊ 1" This, I'm sure will solved the problem, using Tufo tubs, as they are tubeless. KB

obuckler 10-10-23 03:58 PM

There are lots of ways to handle a flat in a tubular tire on the road (this is a disclaimer!).

My choice is this: I carry a spare tubular tire under my seat and a single canister of compressed air and one of those inflator heads that just screw on to the canister threaded top.

I have not actually weighed that all up but do not think it would weigh much more or less than what I carry for my clincher bikes (a seat bag, spare tube, tire lever, same inflation system, and a tire patch for deep cuts).

Changing a tire out on the road is quick and easy and for me quicker than a clincher flat tube change. Rip one off and throw the other one on. No need to check a clincher out for embedded glass or thorns, make sure the new tube wonít pinch flat and the valve is vertical, etc.

With a proper glue (or tape) job the removal should be easy, just push it off to start then it goes fast.

I then patch the flat at home. Since I patch I donít use any sealant because of the mess.

Of course remove and remount a tire at home first if youíre new at it to make sure you can physically do it.

Last disclaimer: i rotate my rides between six bikes. The bike that I am on is always my favorite bike, all for different reasons. Three are clincher setups and three are tubular setups. I always find riding the tubulars to be a much more sublime experience. For one, thatís how those bikes were sold. For two Ö(there is no two Öitís probably all in my head).

obrentharris 10-10-23 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh (Post 23038956)
In my limited experience with using leak stopper such as Stans, Tufo, etc., be careful because if your bike is parked long enough, the sealant migrates to the lowest point and the sealant hardens, which In turn ruins the tube and tire balance.

In my experience "long enough" is an important distinction. I have three bikes with tubulars. None of them ever sit unridden for more than two or three months. In the four or five years that I have been putting sealant (Orange Seal) in my tires I have not had the above mentioned problem.
Brent

WGB 10-10-23 04:51 PM

obrentharris and pastorbobnlnh

Thank you. I was just about to post the question
"How long is too long for tubulars to sit with sealant?"

In late August I installed brand new Continental Competitions and they were not cheap!
Within 100 miles I had a pinhole leak. I added Orange Seal inspite of warnings from friends that it would harden in my tire. I calculated it was better to have some life out of the tire than no life.

I'd still like to see more than two-three months of riding on this tire.

I live in Southern Ontario and wonder if the sealant gets cold enough and freezes, will it harden and stay hard?

If I take each bike and spin the wheels once each month for say twenty to thirty revolutions will that be enough? I can't really ride a road bike here between say mid December until early April. I don't really have a place to store wheels in the house.

obuckler 10-10-23 06:06 PM

(Removed double post. Oops)

MooneyBloke 10-10-23 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh (Post 23038956)
In my limited experience with using leak stopper such as Stans, Tufo, etc., be careful because if your bike is parked long enough, the sealant migrates to the lowest point and the sealant hardens, which In turn ruins the tube and tire balance.

I've had thought of taking a coarse tube and a syringe to remove excess sealant at the end of the season.

One thing I have noticed is if you try to patch a tube with Stan's later on, it's a bit of a bugger getting the tube to lie in a way you want to stick on the patch.

All that being said, Stan's has gotten me home on three occasions without wasting a CO₂ cartridge, so I'm reluctant to give it up.


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